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Damned lawyers
[KavkazUzel] Drawing a picture with the letter Z on someone else's fence should be qualified as hooliganism, says Igor Trunov, president of the Union of Lawyers of Russia. By erasing the letter Z, the man did not discredit the Russian army in any way, said Moscow lawyer Yevgeny Chernousov, commenting on the conflict in Stavropol.
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The "Caucasian Knot " has reported that Vasily Gokov, a 64-year-old pensioner from Stavropol , was beaten after drawing the letter Z in support of the Russian military on his own and neighboring fences on May 28.
Vasily Gokov, a pensioner from Stavropol, denied the "Caucasian Knot" correspondent any detailed comments on the incident. After the correspondent called, the pensioner sent an audio message over the messenger with the details of the incident, but immediately deleted the recording. Also, the pensioner sent two photographs - a fence with the letter Z and a fence with an already erased pattern. Gokov said that he did not want to draw too much attention to his person and family.
"My wife says, there’s no need to cover everything. And it’s already gone all over the country. So the daughter, who lives in Moscow, began to receive offers. I don’t want to disturb everyone yet. Let the people of our country judge everything. My family supports the policy of our country and its president. And the rest, as in my case, just want to sit out in a cozy apartment," the pensioner replied to a correspondent's request.
The conflict with the letter Z on the fences of the Stavropol residents was continued on May 29, according to Notebook-Stavropol. Vasily Gokov's neighbors shared their version of what happened to the editors of Notepad. According to them, the situation is not the same as described by the pensioner.
Details were provided by Gokov's neighbors, who wished to remain anonymous. According to the interlocutors, they were sitting on the street on May 28 and heard the screams of a resident of one of the houses, who was surprised by the act of Vasily Gokov.
"He painted Z on the fence with a piece of white brick, not even chalk. and stated that he expressed his position on the fence. Gokov was asked if he was drunk, in response they heard that he was not. The second participant in the conflict took Vasily Ivanovich's cap, rubbed Z with it, put the cap on his place, said: "Get out of here, begone," one source said.
The police arrived at the scene of the incident and questioned Gokov and his neighbor.
"Gokov said that he was hit, but this was not the case. There are witnesses. After a while, the neighbor who drove Gokov away was standing with small children on the street. Gokov ran up to them with his wife in an inadequate state.
The woman began to shout to the children: "Your dad is a monster, scum and a nationalist. People like you should be burned." They began to calm Gokov's wife, but she attacked the man who had a row with her betrothed," the source said.
Then Gokova pushed the man into his yard and started grabbing his T-shirt. As a result, the man's gold chain and T-shirt were torn, neighbors said.
"She attacked his wife and began to talk nonsense. The police were called. The gold chain remained with her 'like a trophy.'"
As a result, the man went to the department and wrote a statement against the Gokovs. We do not exclude that the husband and wife could be drunk
"Would normal people in an adequate state say such things to children? We are not nationalists, we treat our country with trepidation, but we will not allow someone to scratch our fences and say nasty things. It is possible that the Gokovs could deliberately provoke a conflict," the townspeople suggested.
The Stavropol residents also stressed that on May 28, the Gokovs left Z on the houses along the street. On the morning of May 29, his wife tried to wipe off what had been written, but a trace of a piece of brick remained.
Lawyers interviewed by the "Caucasian Knot" correspondent believe that the removal of the letter Z from one's fence cannot be qualified as discrediting the Russian army.
Igor Trunov , President of the Union of Lawyers of Russia, qualifies drawing a picture with the letter Z on someone else's fence as hooliganism.
"You never know what a whim will be in a person’s head! And if he wants to do tattoos to others? In this way, you can get to all sorts of nonsense. You can do what is not forbidden. was not covered up. Naturally, this is an offense," Trunov told the "Caucasian Knot" correspondent.
The actions of a neighbor who erased a drawing cannot be qualified as discrediting the army, Trunov believes.
"There is no discrediting ... And what about a special operation in general?! This is damage to someone else's property. It is impossible to hide behind good intentions in order to commit illegal actions. And if, out of good intentions, he kills a neighbor? What, now do not judge him?" Trunov said.
Moscow lawyer Yevgeny Chernousov agrees with his colleague that by erasing the letter Z, the man did not discredit the Russian army in any way.
"In the Russian Federation, the letter Z is not marked in any way: there is no official charter, what it symbolizes, what it includes ... The letter Z does not designate the Russian army in any way ... It looks like a case of tattoos - people cannot be forbidden to do them. Z is not a symbol of the army, although it unwinds that way.The conflict did not occur because of Z, but because, in fact, of the drawing on the fence... By law, you cannot write on other people's fences.And if a person has erased the drawing, this does not mean at all that he does not support the actions of the Russian army in Ukraine. He simply did not allow hooligan actions on his territory," Chernousov told the "Caucasian Knot" correspondent.
The pensioner has the right to remove the beatings and file a complaint with the police, he said.
"If there are no serious injuries, then [the court] will limit itself to administrative matters. The court will most likely be given the opportunity to conclude a settlement agreement. I believe that this will end the conflict. Neighbors, this would be an ideal option," said Chernousov.
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