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2024-01-24 China-Japan-Koreas
In Early 2020, A Chinese Source Trusted By FBI Said COVID Leaked From Wuhan Lab, Sources Say
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Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2024-01-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [27 views ]  Top
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#1 Two sources said that the CIA may have been conflicted in investigating its origins because it didn’t want to compromise investigations of the Wuhan lab that predated the outbreak of Covid-19.

Translation:

Chinese virologists directly involved at Wuhan were terminating and the Wet Market cover story was still holding up in the media. Other global conflicts and crisis were successfully pushing actual discovery nearer the memory hole.

"Conflicted?" No. One team, one fight.


Posted by Besoeker 2024-01-24 02:08||   2024-01-24 02:08|| Front Page Top

#2 We knew it from the beginning: "if you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras".
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-01-24 04:27||   2024-01-24 04:27|| Front Page Top

#3 
The question remains the same.....

Leaked or released?
Posted by NN2N1 2024-01-24 06:24||   2024-01-24 06:24|| Front Page Top

#4 "Former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe suggested that there could be additional reasons behind the CIA’s lack of disclosure about COVID’s origins."
Lousy reporting! This demands an explanation which is missing.

...
Posted by Huputle Cherelet4131 2024-01-24 07:26||   2024-01-24 07:26|| Front Page Top

#5 Ref #4:

(1.) On-going monitoring & collection effort.
(2.) On-going bilateral Gain of Function research effort.
(3.) Reluctance to disclose someone else's collection or research effort.
(4.) Intelligence gap (failure).

You decide. I suspect #4 can be eliminated.
Posted by Besoeker 2024-01-24 07:34||   2024-01-24 07:34|| Front Page Top

#6 Released on purpose. Recall where we were in 2018- 2019. Trump seemed unstoppable. The Dems had nothing, China on the ropes looking at an 8 count... poof. And here we are with jails full of political prisoners, no borders and global war perking over the horizon. This was a choice.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2024-01-24 09:07||   2024-01-24 09:07|| Front Page Top

#7 ^Nonsense, they wouldn't release it inside China.
p.s. Far as I can figure, China was the hardest hit.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-01-24 10:03||   2024-01-24 10:03|| Front Page Top

#8 "Never waste the opportunity offered by a good crisis" - Niccolo Machiavelli
Posted by Mullah Richard 2024-01-24 10:31||   2024-01-24 10:31|| Front Page Top

#9 Nonsense, they wouldn't release it inside China.

Possibly, but then again the CCP has never really taken the well-being of their general population seriously (unless it was the 'Mandarin Class'). You'll also notice that nobody in the top tier seemed to have been infected, unlike the US and most other countries.

I also have come to believe that most of the CCP lock-downs were more for 'show' only.

I do agree that it did hit their economy pretty hard, but not as hard as what was happening to their economy and trade before this, and that was absolutely unacceptable.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2024-01-24 10:41||   2024-01-24 10:41|| Front Page Top

#10 nobody in the top tier seemed to have been infected

Nobody was reported.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-01-24 10:49||   2024-01-24 10:49|| Front Page Top

#11 With a baby boom at the beginning of the Mao Tse Tung period (the Communists encouraged large families at the beginning), followed by the baby bust (Communists encouraged 1-child families), culling some portion of the older cohorts was likely seen as a social good.
Posted by trailing wife 2024-01-24 10:51||   2024-01-24 10:51|| Front Page Top

#12 ^"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-01-24 10:54||   2024-01-24 10:54|| Front Page Top

#13 Bet they had a good laugh when our MSM pushed the wet market/bat soup story
Posted by Frank G 2024-01-24 10:56||   2024-01-24 10:56|| Front Page Top

#14 /\ .....when our MSM pushed the wet market/bat soup story

As instructed.
Posted by Besoeker 2024-01-24 11:14||   2024-01-24 11:14|| Front Page Top

#15 Leaked or released?

It was germ warfare. It was way too convenient for Democrats to think otherwise. They got mail-in ballots that allowed them to swing the presidential election in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Arizona. That's too much of a coincidence for me especially since we have since learned of Fauci's involvement. People in our government were complicit in the attack. They had their plans all ready to execute when the pandemic hit.

Go ahead, call me a conspiracy theorist. I just think that calling it an accident, a leak, is weak to the point of being unbelievable.

And why were they doing that research at Wuhan anyway? Why do you build a gun if you're never going to shoot it?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2024-01-24 12:22||   2024-01-24 12:22|| Front Page Top

#16 Yeah, and we know the Chinese are waging chemical warfare against us every day with the knowledge and consent of our own government. I'm talking about fentanyl. The precursor chemicals are Made in China, shipped to Mexico, converted into fentanyl and then smuggled across our border that Joe Biden has left wide open for them.

Now think about Joe Biden. His own son has struggled for years with addiction to illegal narcotics and yet he does nothing to stem the flow of narcotics into our country where 100,000 people a year die from overdoses on those narcotics. That's not to mention the people whose lives have been ruined and the suffering of their friends and families.

What kind of a president would do absolutely nothing to stop that? In fact, it appears that he is actually encouraging it.

The man is evil. He is capable of any kind of evil you can imagine.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2024-01-24 12:30||   2024-01-24 12:30|| Front Page Top

#17 It was way too convenient for Democrats to think otherwise.

Disagree. They're simply good at exploiting opportunities. Unlike you know who.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-01-24 12:39||   2024-01-24 12:39|| Front Page Top

#18 ... And anyway, CCP don't take orders from US Democrats - the other way around, maybe.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-01-24 12:41||   2024-01-24 12:41|| Front Page Top

#19 Like I said, they had their plans all ready to go. Yes, they never let a crisis go to waste. But if need be, they can create a crisis too.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2024-01-24 12:43||   2024-01-24 12:43|| Front Page Top

#20 Trump was going to roll all over Biden in 2020 and Xi Jinping didn't want that to happen any more than the Democrats. It was a joint venture.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2024-01-24 12:44||   2024-01-24 12:44|| Front Page Top

#21 ^Well, have it your way. Personally, I do not fear super-genius villains. I fear megalamaniac mediocracies whose principal talent is manipulating the masses.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-01-24 12:53||   2024-01-24 12:53|| Front Page Top

#22 Nonsense, they wouldn't release it inside China.

They have a billion people. They can afford to lose a million or two. And how do you know they didn't have a vaccine of their own that, unlike Pfizer's, really was safe and effective?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2024-01-24 12:57||   2024-01-24 12:57|| Front Page Top

#23 ^Because of what happened afterwards.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-01-24 12:59||   2024-01-24 12:59|| Front Page Top

#24 I fear megalamaniac mediocracies whose principal talent is manipulating the masses.

Biden is less than mediocre but, with the mainstream media in his pocket, he is good at manipulating the masses.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2024-01-24 12:59||   2024-01-24 12:59|| Front Page Top

#25 Did Xi ever get sick? Any of the Inner Party? Even if they didn't have a vaccine, they were holed up inside the Forbidden City all safe and snug. They knew what was coming and they were ready for it.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2024-01-24 13:05||   2024-01-24 13:05|| Front Page Top

#26 No worries, Abu.

Some folks are only vocal when someone challenges their world view.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2024-01-24 14:51||   2024-01-24 14:51|| Front Page Top

#27 /\ Few in Washington were ever reported as "sick." Fewer yet died, except by gunfire.
Posted by Besoeker 2024-01-24 14:53||   2024-01-24 14:53|| Front Page Top

#28 

Remember the CCP has been strongly PUSHING SINGLE CHILD Marriages since 1970's.

Given various sources and 3rd party collected data. The CCP has lost more than were born since 2020 .... Pandemic maybe????

or Google "China sees population declined again"
Posted by NN2N1 2024-01-24 17:26||   2024-01-24 17:26|| Front Page Top

#29 When's the last time Lloyd Austin has been seen in public? Just curious.
Posted by DooDahMan 2024-01-24 17:54||   2024-01-24 17:54|| Front Page Top

#30 It is rumored that some believe the Sec Def is still in Kiev, either whole or in parts.
Posted by SteveS 2024-01-24 17:59||   2024-01-24 17:59|| Front Page Top

#31 HA, yeah, I read about that theory, too! Austin was allegedly with Zhaluzhny, but nobody asks about him.

Remember some months ago there was a US Army general who allegedly died in a private plane crash near Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland, but may have really gotten blown up in UKR.

Nothing would surprise anymore. Nothing.
Posted by DooDahMan 2024-01-24 18:51||   2024-01-24 18:51|| Front Page Top

#32 Oh no!
Lunch Vader and Clone Wars!
Posted by swksvolFF 2024-01-24 18:53||   2024-01-24 18:53|| Front Page Top

#33 Dammit, The 6th Day was supposed to be a crappy Ahnorld flik not an instructional video.

I can't believe I missed it.

Attack of the Scones.
Posted by swksvolFF 2024-01-24 20:23||   2024-01-24 20:23|| Front Page Top

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