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2024-01-21 Home Front: Politix
Biden's sinking reelection campaign slammed by fellow Dems: ‘He needs a change.'
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Posted by Besoeker 2024-01-21 00:39|| || Front Page|| [43 views ]  Top

#1 "He needs a change" is probably not a good campaign slogan for a guy who wears Depends™.
Posted by M. Murcek 2024-01-21 06:28||   2024-01-21 06:28|| Front Page Top

#2 
wait for it... Micheal Obama for VP slot.
An <-24 months later Obama's back in the White House.
Posted by NN2N1 2024-01-21 08:15||   2024-01-21 08:15|| Front Page Top

#3 OpenAI suspends bot developer for Democrat presidential candidate Dean Phillips
Posted by Skidmark 2024-01-21 08:42||   2024-01-21 08:42|| Front Page Top

#4 change? I would be good with not breathing.
Posted by Chris 2024-01-21 13:01||   2024-01-21 13:01|| Front Page Top

#5 I increasingly wonder if Jojo can make it to the November election before a stroke or increased level of dementia that simply cannot be hidden anymore. I suspect Kamala-lala, knowing this, will cling to the re-election farce with great tenacity, supported by the Cappaqua/CGI mafia, desperate for renewed access. The First Son and Step-Mom "Edith" Biden know that once out in the cold their future involves serious risk of incarceration for a lifetime of fraud and influence peddling on an industrial scale. They will resist any change until blanket pardons are forthcoming. (As an interesting aside, if Jojo has a stroke, and is rendered non-compos mentis, would any pardon be deemed valid, and one wonders if such documents are already issued, and safely secured?)
Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-01-21 13:56||   2024-01-21 13:56|| Front Page Top

#6 They could put someone else on the election ticket, but Replacing Kamala now requires House approval. Joe is going to look terrible at State of the Union in an uncontrolled environment. He is not able to campaign. They will have him drop out of the race but would like to keep him in the Oval Office serving out his term.
Posted by Super Hose 2024-01-21 15:23||   2024-01-21 15:23|| Front Page Top

#7 ^ Yes Supe, appears the dems are running out of both air speed and altitude. Biden may make the finish line, but he'll likely be in a vegetative state.


Posted by Besoeker 2024-01-21 15:30||   2024-01-21 15:30|| Front Page Top

#8 Replacing Kamala now requires House approval
? I am unfamilar with that process? Where am I ignorant (on this issue, OK?) ?
Posted by Frank G 2024-01-21 15:34||   2024-01-21 15:34|| Front Page Top

#9 Frank I was partially wrong. A replacement VP has to be confirmed by both houses.

“By a vote of 92 to 3 on November 27, 1973, the Senate confirmed the nomination of Gerald Ford. The following week, on December 6, the House of Representatives gave its approval, 387 to 35.”

That process yielded Ford and Rockefeller.


Posted by Super Hose 2024-01-21 17:17||   2024-01-21 17:17|| Front Page Top

#10 So, in-term? That makes sense, thx
Posted by Frank G 2024-01-21 18:15||   2024-01-21 18:15|| Front Page Top

#11 Sure replacing a VP requires Congressional approval in both houses of Congress.

But how do they force Kamala to step down? Barring death, grave medical impairment or impeachment, there is way that I am aware of to force Kamala to resign.
Posted by Chantry 2024-01-21 19:16||   2024-01-21 19:16|| Front Page Top

#12 Have the feebs set her up the bomb.
Posted by M. Murcek 2024-01-21 19:18||   2024-01-21 19:18|| Front Page Top

#13 I need to proof read better.
Sure replacing a VP requires Congressional approval in both houses of Congress.

But how do they force Kamala to step down? Barring death, grave medical impairment or impeachment, there is no way that I am aware of to remove Kamala as VP.
Posted by Chantry 2024-01-21 19:20||   2024-01-21 19:20|| Front Page Top

#14 The 25th Amendment process.
Posted by Super Hose 2024-01-21 19:28||   2024-01-21 19:28|| Front Page Top

#15 Presuming you are referring to Section 2, how do you force Kamala to step down? Kamala can not be "fired" by Biden.

I suppose they can try to offer Kamala some sort of carrot to resign, but given her apparent ego, I'm not sure such a carrot exists.
Posted by Chantry 2024-01-21 19:45||   2024-01-21 19:45|| Front Page Top

#16 It looks like they could use the 25th to oust Kamala just based on her stupidity. The word inability is pretty broad. I doubt they would do it. I think they have enough dirt on all of their own politicians and can get them to resign at will, but I think they will give her the presidency for a couple months. Biden has set the bar low.

The stopper on an immediate replacement is the Congressional block preventing them sliding in a preferred candidate. They will put someone like Elisabeth Warren in but the resignation has to happen after the ticket is established at the Convention otherwise Kamala and Warren will demand to run.
Posted by Super Hose 2024-01-21 19:48||   2024-01-21 19:48|| Front Page Top

#17 The hard part would be getting the Republican-controlled House to go along with approving the replacement. I’m pretty sure the vice president, like the various secretaries and senior department officers, serves at the pleasure of the president and can be fired at will.

Personally, I’m perfectly happy with the idea that in the sad event that President Biden were determined no longer able to serve, the (Republican) Speaker of the House would have to shoulder his responsibilities in accordance with the US Constitution.
Posted by trailing wife 2024-01-21 19:51||   2024-01-21 19:51|| Front Page Top

#18 I don't believe the 25th Amendment states of any way to remove a VP, just the president.

I also don't believe the VP serves as the pleasure of the president either. Way back when, the VP was a member of the opposition, who put aside his differences with the winner to serve the country.

At it stands I believe that barring death, grave medical impairment or impeachment, there is no way to remove Kamala as VP against her will.

And even if it gets to impeachment, maybe that don't get the votes needed and that also the votes needed for a replacement aren't there.

Posted by Chantry 2024-01-21 19:58||   2024-01-21 19:58|| Front Page Top

#19  I’m pretty sure the vice president, like the various secretaries and senior department officers, serves at the pleasure of the president and can be fired at will.

It seems I was wrong. It says here that because the vice president is generally elected to the position, only Congress can get rid of the VP. The only time the president can fire his VP is while they are candidates running for office. Once elected, the only way to get rid of the VP is if the VP dies, becomes incapacitated, or is impeached by Congress. Just like the president.
Posted by trailing wife 2024-01-21 20:01||   2024-01-21 20:01|| Front Page Top

#20 Does congress have be involved, IF BIDEN JUST DECIDES his new vp running mate for 2024 is Obama?
Posted by NN2N1 2024-01-21 20:24||   2024-01-21 20:24|| Front Page Top

#21 @20

No, but replacing Kamala has its own dangers, such as risking a rather large portion of his black and/or female base.

I don't believe Michelle Obama will choose to run, especially as a VP to Biden. The Obama's already have the money, power and prestige.
Posted by Chantry 2024-01-21 20:29||   2024-01-21 20:29|| Front Page Top

#22 My guess is the next months are going to be very interesting unless the Democrats are willing to risk an open National Convention in August.
Posted by Chantry 2024-01-21 20:33||   2024-01-21 20:33|| Front Page Top

#23 Dems will not follow any rules.

Joe will f up whatever they attempt.
Posted by M. Murcek  2024-01-21 20:55||   2024-01-21 20:55|| Front Page Top

#24 Joe can’t be taken out at will, because his mental capacity is degraded and everyone knows it. Technically, Kamala doesn’t even need an inauguration or oath. LBJ just did that for show and included Jackie because he was a total jerk. Their goal is to get to the convention without holding primaries so they can make a ticket without the interference of voters. For Joe to make it that far he has to be coherent at SOTU. I may even watch this year.
Posted by Super Hose 2024-01-21 22:01||   2024-01-21 22:01|| Front Page Top

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