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-Lurid Crime Tales-
GOP candidate in Cook County, IL discovers voting machine casts his vote for the Democrat he is running against
[AMERICANTHINKER]
Posted by: Fred || 10/22/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [149 views] Top||

#1  Obama is not even running but will still get 65% of the vote.
Posted by: airandee || 10/22/2014 11:09 Comments || Top||

#2  After 30 years in the business I'm getting tired of computers. You just can't trust them anymore.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/22/2014 12:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Schaumburg is in DuPage County. Why would the ballot being displayed show a C(r)ook County race to allow casting a vote? Sum Ting Wong.
Posted by: Mugsy Glink || 10/22/2014 12:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Need to have a manditory twenty years for voter fraud. No time off for good behavior.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/22/2014 14:51 Comments || Top||

#5  The New York Post reports that 850 voters in NYC are officially 164 years old. Tell me we don't need voter ID laws! We need ID in many other areas of life without such a huge progressive pushback. It is only someone who wants to steal an election who is vehemently opposed to such legislation.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/22/2014 18:19 Comments || Top||


Arizona: Surveillance video captures man stuffing ballot box with hundreds of ballots
[AMERICANTHINKER]
Posted by: Fred || 10/22/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [178 views] Top||

#1  He said he would have followed the man to his car to get his tag number but “feared for [his] life.”

Perhaps it is time for a new Maricopa County chairman, one with a backbone, cell phone, and possibly a pistol.

Posted by: Besoeker || 10/22/2014 1:43 Comments || Top||

#2  At least catch up to the guy at the next polling station. cheaters are like bank robbers; they do not stop until they are caught.
Posted by: Airandee || 10/22/2014 6:19 Comments || Top||

#3  cheaters are like bank robbers; they do not stop until they are caught

And then there's Chicago/Cook County. 'Getting caught' doesn't occur (camera malfunctions, unlocked doors & potty breaks for the poll workers - it's all good).
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/22/2014 8:14 Comments || Top||

#4  It's NOT cook county,he should be an easy catch.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/22/2014 11:35 Comments || Top||

#5  The New York Post reports that 850 voters in NYC are officially 164 years old. Tell me we don't need voter ID laws! We need ID in many other areas of life without such a huge progressive pushback. It is only someone who wants to steal an election who is vehemently opposed to such legislation.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/22/2014 18:20 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
Idaho city's ordinance tells pastors to marry gays or go to jail
[WASHINGTONTIMES] Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, city officials have laid down the law to Christian pastors within their community, telling them bluntly via an ordinance that if they refuse to marry homosexuals, they will face jail time and fines.

The dictate comes on the heels of a legal battle with Donald and Evelyn Knapp, ordained ministers who own the Hitching Post wedding chapel in the city, but who oppose gay marriage, The Daily Caller reported.

A federal judge recently ruled that the state's ban on gay marriage was unconstitutional, while the city of Coeur d'Alene has an ordinance that prevents discrimination based on sexual preference.

The Supreme Court's recent refusal to take on gay rights' appeals from five states has opened the doors for same-sex marriages to go forth.

The Knapps were just asked by a gay couple to perform their wedding ceremony, The Daily Caller reported.

"On Friday, a same-sex couple asked to be married by the Knapps, and the Knapps politely declined," The Daily Signal reported. "The Knapps now face a 180-day jail term and a $1,000 fine for each day they decline to celebrate the same-sex wedding."

The Alliance Defending Freedom has filed a suit in federal court to stop the city from enforcing the fine and jail sentence, saying in a statement from senior legal counsel Jeremy Tedesco that the government has overstepped its bounds, The Daily Caller reported.

"Many have denied that pastors would ever be forced to perform ceremonies that are completely at odds with their faith, but that's what is happening here -- and it's happened this quickly," Mr. Tedersco said, The Daily Caller reported.

But the city sees it differently. As far back as May, city officials were insisting that their ordinance is indeed in line with law.

"If you turn away a gay couple, refuse to provide services for them, then in theory you violated our code, and you're looking at a potential misdemeanor citation," said Coeur d'Alene City Attorney Warren Wilson, to KXLY months ago.
Posted by: Fred || 10/22/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [261 views] Top||

#1  U.S. Armed Forces Oath of Enlistment - do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic...
Posted by: Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 || 10/22/2014 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Genesis 19:5 comes to mind:

and they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them."

Anyone think can't happen here? It's getting closer and closer to that point. At first we had to 'tolerate' it, then we had to accept it, and now these pastors have to, by law, condone it. How long before someone is forced to actively participate?

Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/22/2014 0:34 Comments || Top||

#3  I seriously doubt this "ordinance" will hold up in a court.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/22/2014 1:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Seems like this would go against freedom of religion
Posted by: chris || 10/22/2014 5:19 Comments || Top||

#5  ..actually nearly the entire 1st Amendment - association, speech, religion. When three percent dictate to over fifty percent their culture it's long past any relationship to democracy or republic other than the usual People's Democratic Republic of the late 20th Century. Who now is the intolerant? It was never about 'fairness'. It's always been about POWER.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/22/2014 5:46 Comments || Top||

#6  The pastors filed a federal lawsuit.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/22/2014 7:32 Comments || Top||

#7  They're running their wedding chapel as a business; as such it has to comply with anti-discrimination laws as they apply to businesses. Their personal religious beliefs will not apply.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/22/2014 8:57 Comments || Top||

#8  ...so going in to a Kosher/Halal butcher and demand he provide you BBQ doesn't apply?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/22/2014 9:17 Comments || Top||

#9  Are there any mosques in Couer D'Alene? Or is it only Christian pastors who must marry gays?
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 10/22/2014 10:18 Comments || Top||

#10  They're gonna look pretty stupid when they have all of the town's pastors sitting in jail.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/22/2014 11:56 Comments || Top||

#11  Can you say martyr? Sure you can.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/22/2014 11:57 Comments || Top||

#12  Glenmore, thats a dangerous precedent you're endorsing.

The rights freedom of association, of free practice of religion are easily abridge because of a link to commerce? Those are fundamental rights, and abridging them must meet a very high standard.

Sorry - in THIS nation, we have always carved out exemptions for the free practice of religion.

See the problem is that for them, gay "marriage" is a sham. Its a lie, it is illegitimate and cannot exist per orthodox Christian doctrine. Ethically, they can no more perform a gay marriage than they can a Satanic one - they simply are antithetical to their core religion.

Also, you would willingly have the government enforce a law that forces them to act against their fundamental faith - their own moral basis - or else be forbidden to perform a ritual (marriage) and a service to coreligionists and get remunerated from it if they don't provide it to everyone?

So in your view, these gays can also start suing the local Catholic parish priest because he refuses to perform the ceremony as well? It is a paid service - and under your massive expansion of government power, it gets the "commerical" treatment, and allows you to apply your threat of force to these priests who do not submit to your moral views as implemented by the government.

And make no mistake - it is force we are talking about. They government will send armed agents, physically take you from your property, and will kill you if you effectively resist. Ask the Weavers. IS that really where you want to be Glenmore, on the side of the jackboots?

For along those paths lie the worst sorts of oppressions.

What's next Glemore, forcing Doctors and Nurses to participate in abortions? After all, that is a "right" that has been endorsed by other large government people who hold the same view as you, and it is also a business, because they charge for it, and opposition is on moral grounds. So a MD or RN who refuses is not allowed to work?

See where that thinking takes you? Hint: jackboots.

My personal take? If you dont like it go someplace else. The gay couple are assholes. These people perform CHRISTIAN Weddings, and the gays were not looking for that. They are in no way damaged or prevented from exercising their own lifestyle by the refusal of a religious service, a religion to which they are not a party. And the government here is being massively fascistic and oppressive. Its the kind of government that will foment armed rebellion that ends with the autocrats hanging from telephone poles (deservedly, IMHO).

Keep pushing, city officials. I'm sure Coeur d'Alene has plenty of telephone poles.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/22/2014 14:09 Comments || Top||

#13  Good rant, Oldspook.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/22/2014 16:05 Comments || Top||

#14  The pastors should call the city's bluff and go to jail. That should go over well.
Posted by: Anice Nim || 10/22/2014 16:25 Comments || Top||

#15  The rights freedom of association, of free practice of religion are easily abridge because of a link to commerce? Those are fundamental rights, and abridging them must meet a very high standard.

That's the argument being used against Hobby Lobby, et all, as they fight the Obamacare abortion/abortifacient requirement up to the Supreme Court, OldSpook. Also how a number of states drove the Catholic Church out of the adoption business, and may soon drive her out of the hospital business as well, to the detriment of society.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/22/2014 17:20 Comments || Top||

#16 
Posted by: nasty, fake trailing wife || 10/22/2014 18:35 Comments || Top||

#17  Hmmm ... that does NOT sound like the trailing wife we know and love. Could somebody have hijacked her nym?
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 10/22/2014 19:04 Comments || Top||

#18  I'd hope the city officials are as interested in addressing their crime problems as they are in forcing homosexual marriages. Coeur d'Alene crime. It seems that it is quite high. They are headed towards a Constitutional showdown--and probably going to lose.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/22/2014 19:15 Comments || Top||

#19  My thoughts exactly, Rambler.
Posted by: Barbara || 10/22/2014 19:46 Comments || Top||

#20  18:35 was most definitely not me. Not my thoughts, and definitely not my vocabulary. Thanks, guys.
Posted by: the real trailing wife || 10/22/2014 19:58 Comments || Top||

#21  Hmmmm. The fake tw has also pretended to be Besoeker in the past. The IP, however, reveals all.
Posted by: the real trailing wife || 10/22/2014 20:02 Comments || Top||

#22  Note that it and my nyms have been modified to remove, at least for this thread, any question of which is who. The issue has been referred upstairs to The Management.
Posted by: the real trailing wife || 10/22/2014 20:10 Comments || Top||

#23  and the real Frank G is back from Sedona :-(
- Should be my regular IP
Posted by: Frank G || 10/22/2014 20:24 Comments || Top||

#24  You can't have gone to Sedona. It doesn't exist to begin with!

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 10/22/2014 21:37 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Mary Landrieu: My Multimillion-Dollar Home Is Not a Mansion
More like a small palace, I imagine...
[NATIONALREVIEW] Democratic senator Mary Landrieu insists that her multimillion-dollar home in Washington, D.C., isn't a mansion.

At a campaign event in Bogalusa, La., this weekendâ, Landrieu called a woman up on stage to explain that the 7,300 square-foot house doesn't qualify as a mansion, and then interrupted the woman to add that she lives next to the cleaners and her home is only 36 feet wide. "They say I live in a mansion," Landrieu said. "It's a townhome, which I also have a home in New Orleans."
The New Orleans townhouse is her parents', she just rents a bedroom there...
Landrieu reportedly lives in a 7,316 square-foot house in D.C. that boasts five bathrooms, four water heaters, and 82 fire sprinkler heads. She claimed this $2.5 million residence as her address on her statement of candidacy, but listed her parents' townhouse address in New Orleans when she was qualifying for the ballot. At the beginning of the video, Landrieu appears to be complaining about the lack of scrutiny regarding her Republican opponent Bill Cassidy's home, pointing out that he lives on a lake. The label "Senator representing the District of Columbia" really seems to be getting to Landrieu.
Posted by: Fred || 10/22/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [221 views] Top||

#1  My father's house has many mansions
And one or two minor expansions:
The wing built for me
Stretches right to DC
And the pull of its lunar attractions.
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 10/22/2014 2:47 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm sure the folks who work at the paper mill in Bogalusa were really impressed with this argument.
Posted by: Matt || 10/22/2014 9:27 Comments || Top||

#3  You just wanted to work Bogalusa into the conversation. Understandable actually.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/22/2014 10:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Probably wanted to use Grosse Tete, but discretion got the better of him.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/22/2014 11:16 Comments || Top||

#5  Wait a minute. If the house is only 36 feet wide but it has 7,316 square feet then how long is it? Oh, that's right, I have a calculator on my computer. Let's see, 7316 divided by 36 equals 203.2222222222222222222222. So for perspective, that's 67.66666666666667 yards. Not quite as long as a football field but pretty long for a house. Did I miss something?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/22/2014 12:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Maybe she should open a bowling alley.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/22/2014 12:16 Comments || Top||

#7  Actually, my first choice was Dry Prong, but I was afraid someone would view that as a microaggression.
Posted by: Matt || 10/22/2014 12:16 Comments || Top||

#8  So for perspective, that's 67.66666666666667 yards. Not quite as long as a football field but pretty long for a house. Did I miss something?

Give the thing three stories (public rooms on the ground floor, private rooms upstairs, staff work rooms (kitchen, etc) in the basement), then recalculate.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/22/2014 12:22 Comments || Top||

#9  There are some cities that taxed houses based on the frontage - the width of the house. The solution was to build narrow but deep houses.

Ms Landrieu's house may be like that.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 10/22/2014 12:47 Comments || Top||

#10  I guess the stables are off to one side? Or maybe she just calls a Hansom cab?

Come, Watson, the game is afoot!
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 10/22/2014 12:52 Comments || Top||

#11  Welcome to the residence. My name is Carson. Ms. Landrieu will be down shortly. Please let me take your through to the library.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/22/2014 13:16 Comments || Top||

#12  Three stories, OK. Then you only have a little over 20 yards. That takes her out of the bowling alley business. Poor girl.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/22/2014 13:57 Comments || Top||

#13  She rented a tired appaloosa
And strapped on a borrowed papoosa:
"How now, darkskinned brother!
It's me, Great White Mother,
Come back to embrace Bogalusa."
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 10/22/2014 14:18 Comments || Top||

#14  The salary of Congresscritters is $174,000/year. Let me know how you become a millionaire on $174,000/year. Is this like Hillary turning $1000 into $100,000 by wise investing in cattle futures (sarc)? Democrats are just smart about other people's money and they don't pay their taxes?
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/22/2014 18:28 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Obama the virtuoso manager
by Caroline Glick

h/t Gates of Vienna
Since he assumed office nearly six years ago, US President Barack Obama has been dogged by allegations of managerial incompetence. Obama, his critics allege, had no managerial experience before he was elected. His lack of such experience, they claim, is reflected in what they see as his incompetent handling of the challenges of the presidency.

In everything from dealing with the Congress, to reining in radical ideologues at the IRS, to handling the chaos at the Mexican border, to putting together coordinated strategies for dealing with everything from Ebola to Islamic State (IS), Obama’s critics claim that he is out of his league. That he is incompetent.

But if Israel’s experience with him is any guide, then his critics are the ones who are out to sea. Because at least in his handling of US relations with the Jewish state, Obama has exhibited a mastery of the tools of the executive branch unmatched by most of his predecessors.

Consider two stories reported in last Friday’s papers.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/22/2014 03:27 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [150 views] Top||

#1  Ouch.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/22/2014 8:06 Comments || Top||

#2  US President Barack Obama has been dogged by allegations of managerial incompetence. Obama, his critics allege, had no managerial experience before he was elected. His lack of such experience, they claim, is reflected in what they see as his incompetent handling of the challenges of the presidency.

But he hired top men - TOP MEN!

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/22/2014 9:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Obama’s critics claim that he is out of his league.

JV possibly ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/22/2014 10:09 Comments || Top||

#4  It doesn't require a lot of IQ to destroy things.
Posted by: Raj || 10/22/2014 11:03 Comments || Top||

#5  The administration is certainly the master of the slow roll. Consider the IRS and its rounds of pound-the-table laughable questions: "Are you ever planning on running for office?" "Detail what you say in your prayers." Consider the interminable stone-walling, counting on a shift of attention to the next outrageous scandal. The Trunks are outclassed and impotent.
Posted by: KBK || 10/22/2014 13:41 Comments || Top||

#6  At last an answer to the age old question: Is he really that stupid or is he doing it on purpose?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/22/2014 16:06 Comments || Top||

#7  Ebbang,
His "stupidity" only happens in one direction.

Posted by: frozen al || 10/22/2014 16:45 Comments || Top||



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