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2015-06-11 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Raj 2015-06-11 12:54|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 No trade deal, that effects your bosses Ryan, should be "classified". It needs to be something that the public agrees with.

Just really more proof that both parties belong to the Washington DC party and there is little difference between them.

We have our 3 boxes. We passed the soapbox and are passing the voting box. Do you idiots really want us to reach for the cartridge box?

Posted by DarthVader 2015-06-11 13:04|| 2015-06-11 13:04|| Front Page Top

#2 Let's just say I've become disillusioned with American democracy. The leaders of both major parties have sold us down the river.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2015-06-11 13:51|| 2015-06-11 13:51|| Front Page Top

#3 We need a sunset (all laws expire unless renewed) and sunshine (all lawmaking must be done in the open, excepting defense/intelligence) amendment to the constitution.

Posted by OldSpook 2015-06-11 15:41|| 2015-06-11 15:41|| Front Page Top

#4 "It's declassified and made public once it's agreed to,"

I have to wonder if this is a bit of a tempest in a teapot pushed by the anti-Republican mainstream media. The House committee is in the middle of the sausage making stage that legendarily takes place in smoke-filled back rooms. Until the bill is finalized and ready to be put up for a vote, nobody knows what will be in it, only what might be.

Contrariwise, only a few of the Congresscritters who voted on the American Care Act saw any of the text until after the thing was passed, several stages down the road from where Obama's proposed trade bill is now. What comes out of committee may well look very different from the thing that left the President's desk.

Posted by trailing wife 2015-06-11 17:23|| 2015-06-11 17:23|| Front Page Top

#5 tw, my understanding, which could be wrong, is they'll finalize it then present for a straight up or down vote, take it or leave it, without any opportunity for amendments from the floor and precious little chance to actually read it before voting.

I think its quite reasonable to assume they're keeping it secret because people would scream bloody murder if the provisions were made public. Rank and file congress critters might then be spooked into voting against it. MSM will cooperate by forgetting all about it after it's passed and ordinary folks will never know what hit them.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2015-06-11 18:17|| 2015-06-11 18:17|| Front Page Top

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