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2015-03-12 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Lying to Ourselves: The Demise of Military Integrity
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Posted by Besoeker 2015-03-12 13:28|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 Great post.

I've seen this kind of crap permeate too many private business organizations. A "little bit" of dishonesty is, well, "positioning."

Maybe an "All Volunteer" force eventually begets a "go along to get along" mindset? When I was in, everybody was aware of at least one "goat" who screwed up and was made a concrete reminder of the downside. Nowadays this would not fly.

Dunno.
Posted by Hupineger Glomomp52169  2015-03-12 19:02||   2015-03-12 19:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Like the Air Force on both SpaceX and the Warthog?
Or smaller stuff?
Posted by 3dc 2015-03-12 19:22||   2015-03-12 19:22|| Front Page Top

#3 Slippery brown stuff runs downhill. The C-in-C is incapable of putting two sentences together without both of them being a lie. Honesty, professionalism, and integrity will only get you screwed.

Think of this: Every single member of the armed forces, congress, the professional government at every level, has sworn to uphold, support, defend, and bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution, yet we've had six years where every concept of the Constitution has been trashed, and more than a hundred years where the 9th and 10th amendments have been totally ignored. ALL of them need to be fired. Lead pink slips are authorized.
Posted by Old Patriot 2015-03-12 20:02||   2015-03-12 20:02|| Front Page Top

#4 When you see selections for promotion based on gender, race or special connections, and the same special people are more immune from discipline, integrity and performance expectations you quickly see the career path requires gamesmanship, as well as effort if you are not in a protected quota. You get verbose operational planning, but timid execution. Why take risks or responsibility when you can ride the fools who still believe duty, honor, courage. Sad to see the last noble profession slide slowly onto the common miasma of government.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2015-03-12 20:15||   2015-03-12 20:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Well said NoMoreBS. Many of us have watched this scenario unfold for decades.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-03-12 20:19||   2015-03-12 20:19|| Front Page Top

#6 This is relatively simple: we have had 6 years of Obama approved flag officers, who were chosen for their obedience and "moral malleability" to go-along get-along with progressivism at the expense of good military order and particularly merit.

And Bush had somewhat of benign but ultimately weak approach of managing flag officers, allowing the rot to set in before Obama took full advantage of it by weeding out combat proven leaders in favor of blanket folders.
Posted by OldSpook 2015-03-12 22:39||   2015-03-12 22:39|| Front Page Top

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