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2014-02-26 -Land of the Free
After Ukraine, we need an American Spring - PJ Media
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Posted by Besoeker 2014-02-26 03:09|| || Front Page|| [9 views ]  Top

#1 I am not hopeful for an... "American Spring." It didn't happen overnight. It won't end overnight. The last attempt at a 'clean-up' or codification of divided beliefs ended with nearly 800,000 dead and lingering bitterness.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-02-26 08:09||   2014-02-26 08:09|| Front Page Top

#2 We had ONE civil War (Nothing "Civil about it).
Posted by Redneck Jim 2014-02-26 10:37||   2014-02-26 10:37|| Front Page Top

#3 People who write this stuff look at the civil war romantically. Hundreds of thousands will die. With the period of lawlessness the criminals will go wild, imagine New Orleans without the water. People in the Ukraine are suffering. They will be for many years to come.

We don't need an American Spring. What we need is for our leaders to start acting like leaders and adults. To start acting like responsible people.
Posted by 49 Pan 2014-02-26 12:22||   2014-02-26 12:22|| Front Page Top

#4 We've had more than one civil war. The first one ended in the 1780's with Loyalists being robbed, imprisoned & then kicked out of the new USA. Negotiations between the new USA and Great Britain included how to compensate those who were expelled.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418  2014-02-26 16:28||   2014-02-26 16:28|| Front Page Top

#5 We must not play into Champ's hands. Civil unrest will bring about a declaration of Martial Law. The constitution will be set aside, as will all elections, and Champ will 'rule' indefinitely. We must be careful that this does not happen.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-02-26 21:40||   2014-02-26 21:40|| Front Page Top

#6 Apparently not many here RTFA:

But in order to achieve this American Spring, those who favor a diminished state must exercise discipline and kindness as never before. They should avoid internal rectification campaigns (shooting their own, looking for ideological perfection that doesn’t exist). We are not communists. That’s what they do.Those already convinced of our cause — small-government conservatives, Tea Partiers, libertarians — should put aside their squabbles for now, join together and seek to be as inclusive as possible. Ideological purity, indeed ideological terminology itself, is inherently exclusionary and often obfuscating. Gloating of any sort is also counter-productive, possibly terminally. Instead, we must patiently explain, even to our most intractable adversaries, why our proposals for limited government are for their benefit as well as our own. We must do this in the face of a troglodytic and reactionary media and entrenched bureaucracies and interest groups from over a century of statism. We cannot stop or give up.

And we must always point out that what people were and are fighting for on the streets of the Ukraine and Venezuela is human freedom. They are not fighting for more government programs. It’s even farcical to think so.


Posted by Pappy 2014-02-26 22:29||   2014-02-26 22:29|| Front Page Top

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