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2013-08-08 -Land of the Free

Top general: Feds shrug off potential EMP disaster

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Posted by BrerRabbit 2013-08-08 05:16|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top

#1 Maybe because there won't be a Fed after a massive EMP hit?

Everything will become local real quick. Too many things for central management to even come close to coordinating, controlling. There is not enough resources to bring it all back anytime soon enough to 'impose' order. Order will be rebuilt from the local up. The tribes the Donks have been basing power upon for generations will find themselves sorely lacking in the basics of food, energy, clean water, etc. With the largest armed body in the world being the American public and particularly not heavily Donk, the ability to maraude and loot for their constituencies is going to be cut rather short quickly. They will simply wither on the vine. They don't want to even think about it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-08-08 08:37|| 2013-08-08 08:37|| Front Page Top

#2 A fair bit of that is true.

However, there are some smart things we could do to mitigate the damage and allow for some faster recovery (months instead of years, years instead of decades). Government officials who were actually looking after the country (not just out for themselves and their pals) could do a fair bit of good for not a lot of spending.

Oh heck what's the fun of THAT?

Posted by Steve White 2013-08-08 09:00|| 2013-08-08 09:00|| Front Page Top

#3 Plane crash fallacy: everybody (who matters) is going to die anyway, so why bother?
Also-- less opportunity for kickbacks and graft, so less interest. Which just shows a total lack of imagination W.R.T. kickbacks and graft.

Posted by Nguard 2013-08-08 09:52|| 2013-08-08 09:52|| Front Page Top

#4 General Wesley Clark too busy to be worried about silly EMP.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-08 10:05|| 2013-08-08 10:05|| Front Page Top

#5 Since an EMP can happen from the sun it is inexcusable that the government didn't put regulations on the power and communications industry to harden against it long ago. Also a hardened facility that had the chips and tubes as well as the equipment to rapidly make new chips and tubes and whatever would have been fairly common sense.

I'm pretty libertarian about spending but this falls well within what should be expected of the Federal Government in my opinion. I do not think history will look kindly on the current batch of politicial leaders.

Posted by rjschwarz 2013-08-08 10:12|| 2013-08-08 10:12|| Front Page Top

#6 ...too many jobs for burly men in such a program. Not the right tribe.

We'll discover the serious 'transformer gap' (and not the movie types). You can get the generators back up in a relative short time, but to reconnect the lines out through the country is going to take years of production.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-08-08 10:36|| 2013-08-08 10:36|| Front Page Top

#7 We're the elite. We can skip the hard problems and make it up with extra credit.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-08-08 11:16|| 2013-08-08 11:16|| Front Page Top

#8 Is the 'Burg prepared? I'm thinking a snail-mail newsletter once a week...

Posted by Bobby 2013-08-08 11:32|| 2013-08-08 11:32|| Front Page Top

#9 Since an EMP can happen from the sun it is inexcusable that the government didn't put regulations forbidding solar storms. No different than requiring gasoline companies use x% of non-existent cellulosic ethanol in their blends.

Posted by Glenmore 2013-08-08 12:44|| 2013-08-08 12:44|| Front Page Top

#10 if the Burg goes down, switch to the alternative JoeM.Net

Posted by Frank G on the road 2013-08-08 13:10|| 2013-08-08 13:10|| Front Page Top

#11 another reason to have a natural gas net with local generators ... it decentralizes the power and is much much safer from EMP.

Posted by 3dc 2013-08-08 14:16|| 2013-08-08 14:16|| Front Page Top

#12 JoeM.Net is TRIPLE REDUNDANT > EMP > ANDERSON AFB. JoePa endorsed and digital Madonna > than nothing.

Posted by Shipman 2013-08-08 14:41|| 2013-08-08 14:41|| Front Page Top

#13 JoeM.net also utilizes the ultra-high-tech, EMP resistant, ACIP Protocol (RFC 1149)

Posted by CrazyFool 2013-08-08 16:16|| 2013-08-08 16:16|| Front Page Top

#14 Does JoeM.net have a logo?

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2013-08-08 17:04|| 2013-08-08 17:04|| Front Page Top

#15 3dc has the right idea, or go even further and have an NG generator in your home, with some back up gas bottles if the mains gas fails.

Posted by phil_b 2013-08-08 18:09|| 2013-08-08 18:09|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm in the process of going solar, no worries for me (And NO rebates, that'd give them a "Hold" Over MY solar.
nonoyerbizness.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-08-08 18:46|| 2013-08-08 18:46|| Front Page Top

#17 EMP protection is a really good excuse to buy a 1968 or older any muscle car; no computers or electronic ignition. just points, plugs, condenser. and nothing is cooler than a hood full of (insert make here) big-block.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2013-08-08 19:21|| 2013-08-08 19:21|| Front Page Top

#18 JOE! does not need a logo. They are for dwarks.

Posted by Shipman 2013-08-08 19:28|| 2013-08-08 19:28|| Front Page Top

#19 Essentially the making of an EMP pulse is so Insignifigant, you need a nuke, and the EMP is a very small portion, it's not worth serious consideration. (Except for Science Fiction)

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-08-08 19:37|| 2013-08-08 19:37|| Front Page Top

#20 One of those special high-voltage transformers that the US is unable to manufacture can probably be taken out with a 50-cal slug from a muzzle loader at the right spot. That gets no serious consideration either.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-08-08 19:44|| 2013-08-08 19:44|| Front Page Top

#21 I have an old 72 beetle that has absolutely no electronics in it - condenser, point, plugs are all sold school. Plus you can fix almost anything with duct tape, JBWeld, a soup can and a coat hanger. Of course you can see the road thru parts of the floorboard, but thats if you pull up the snow shovel blade that's in there as a floorboard substitute. Its actually back at my brothers place in the barn - probably full of mice. I think I may have just gotten myself a project to do... I also have 2 HP48+ calculators, in a lined box, which will do more than most pre-1980 computers. Figure if it does come down to that, it would come in handy, and I still ahve a ton of programs for them, as well as all the manuals, etc (also at my desk, my relic - a HP15c, probably the best calculator I have ever owned).

Plus it would be part of my evil plan to rebuild the world where RPN was the standard way to operate a calculator. Muahahah!

Posted by OldSpook 2013-08-08 20:53|| 2013-08-08 20:53|| Front Page Top

#22 OS just put a computer and generator into a metal box (Faraday cage) against that day and bury them. Dig them up post EMP.

Posted by 3dc 2013-08-08 22:45|| 2013-08-08 22:45|| Front Page Top

#23 There is no scenario where EMP is worse than actually blowing shit up with the same thing.

This whole conversation is a distraction. Worry about what you are being distracted from rather than this.

Posted by rammer 2013-08-08 23:44|| 2013-08-08 23:44|| Front Page Top

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