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2012-12-12 Home Front: WoT
U.S. Intelligence Report Says Islamist Terrorism 'Could End by 2030'
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Posted by trailing wife 2012-12-12 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [244 views ]  Top

#1 See also RELATED DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > ASIA TO OVERTAKE NORTH AMERICA AND EUROPE IN COMBINED GLOBAL POWER BY 2030 | [China Post] INDIA TO OUTPACE CHINA BY 2030: US INTELLIGENCE REPORT.

* SAME > ASIA TO BE GLOBAL POWER BY 2030: US REPORT.

versus

* WAFF > US SECRET SERVICE TALKS ABOUT AMPUTATION OF TURKEY IN 2030 | US INTEL PREDICTS KURDISH SECESSION FROM TURKEY [etal.] AROUND 2030.

Potential loss of sovereign land by Turkey + other ME Countries to new Kurdistan State

* SAME > FAILED RESET? US DECRIES [Re]
"SOVIETIZATION" OF FORMER USSR STATES, as under the guise = false/broad cover of Vlad-proposed "EURASIAN UNION", Customs Union, or similar label, notsomuch a formal return of the "USSR" proper.

RELATED WAFF > CLINTON [SecState Hillary] FEARS EFFORT TO "RE-SOVIETIZE" IN EUROPE, i.e. much of Eastern Europe [ex-Soviet Bloc = Warsaw Pact] + Central Asia Region [ex-Soviet Stans].

* INDEPENDENT.UK > PRESSURE ON DWINDLING RESOURCES THREATENS "GLOBAL CHAOS" [consequent rise in Hunger and ultimately Warfare]. DEMAND FOR BASIC COMMODITIES TO SOAR OVER NEXT 20 YEARS.

* REDIFF > BY 2050. 20% OF INDIA'S POPULATION WILL BE OLD.

Lest we fergit, roughly ditto for JAPAN + ROK + SE ASIA.

* CHINA DAILY FORUM > UK-STYLE SECRETARY OF LABOUR FOR OBAMA ADMINISTRATION STARTING IN 2013?
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-12-12 00:46||   2012-12-12 00:46|| Front Page Top

#2 Ah yes, Year 2030 ...
> USA may no longer be the World's Sole Superpower, or even to be a Superpower.
> Radical Islam may or may NOT have lost the GWOT = Global Jihad???
> Comet Apophis 2029-2036 = Moon wiped out, as due to lack of effective OWG Space Defense as due to lack of reliable or effective OWG.
> As linked or related to "Peak Oil/Resources" + BP Deepwater Horizon [Gulf of Mexico spill], UNO declares "Fracking" an International Crime agz the Planet-Humanity.

Basically because in coming decades certain or select aspects of "Peak Everything" was found to be more accurate than realized today, as per "OWG Consensus is that there is such Consensus".
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-12-12 00:57||   2012-12-12 00:57|| Front Page Top

#3 Say it wid me Amerikka - YA SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN LINDSAY DYES HER HAIR PURPLE!
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-12-12 00:59||   2012-12-12 00:59|| Front Page Top

#4 COASTTOCOASTAM > [Wired.com] US SPIES SEE SUPERHUMANS, INSTANT CITIES BY 2030.

Mega-Cities [Super City-States] to steadily take the realms from traditional organized Nation-States???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-12-12 01:30||   2012-12-12 01:30|| Front Page Top

#5 By 2030 Dar will either.
(1) Win---in which case terrorism will stop.
(2) Be reduced to its natural state of bunch of savages on the outskirts of civilization---in which case terrorism will stop.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-12-12 01:40||   2012-12-12 01:40|| Front Page Top

#6 It could be over for the most part tomorrow evening if an effective kinetic example were made of a few of key and strategic cities. I might proffer a list, but it would be unnecessary with this audience. If my history is correct, none of the major or lesser campaigns of WWII were won through targeting assignation of the enemy.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-12-12 01:51||   2012-12-12 01:51|| Front Page Top

#7 If the Dar wins, terrorism will simply continue under another name and perhaps new management.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-12-12 02:17||   2012-12-12 02:17|| Front Page Top

#8 No it will not. There'll be plenty of murder---but without risk to the murderers.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-12-12 02:18||   2012-12-12 02:18|| Front Page Top

#9 Basically because in coming decades certain or select aspects of "Peak Everything" was found to be more accurate than realized today

Include peak government in that, and, well..
Posted by no mo uro 2012-12-12 05:59||   2012-12-12 05:59|| Front Page Top

#10 Wow! It only took 1600+ years. The only time 'Radical Islamists' have been peaceful over that time period was when they were sent to meet Allah. It's gonna take a whole lot more drones for this to occur by 2030.
Posted by Past Master of the Obvious 2012-12-12 07:39||   2012-12-12 07:39|| Front Page Top

#11 Really?

This kind of intelligence should be good reason for discharge with cause for incompetence.

My word this is either a highly politicized report or these guys are another bunch of intell weenies locked in their office with too little experience in the ME.

When they kill each other over the succession to Mohammed who died in 832, and kill everyone else over the First Crusade which occured in 1045, it is obvious they are just all completely nuts.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2012-12-12 10:43||   2012-12-12 10:43|| Front Page Top

#12 Strategypage.com has commented several times about how Islamic terrorism seems to come in waves. It flares up, kills mostly other muslims, then trails off.

The problem is nothing is solved. The same conditions that angered the jihadis continue, and the Ummah refuses to renounce terrorism as a way to get unbelievers to convert.

I believe the Ummah is producing a large number of young men who are sexually frustrated sadists. As long as these men can mumble a few lines from the Koran and get support from the ummah, Islamist terrorism is never going to end. In 2030 or any other year.

Al
Posted by Frozen Al 2012-12-12 11:41||   2012-12-12 11:41|| Front Page Top

#13 Why did they stop reproducing?
Posted by Hellfish 2012-12-12 12:18||   2012-12-12 12:18|| Front Page Top

#14 Why did they stop reproducing?

Do you mean the Muslims, Hellfish? According to Spengler, two reasons:

1) educated women have fewer offspring, and have them later, whether or not they work outside the home, and

2) the response of a culture unable to compete, whether because it is conquered in war or visibly less effective in delivering health, wealth, and happiness in peace is despair, which leads to a reduction in those activities which express trust in the future: innovation and starting new businesses, marriage, and having children.

The Medes and the Persians in Iran, for instance, have a birthrate somewhere around 1.2, as I recall, where simple replacement is 2.1. The Turks of Turkey, ditto -- or at least the Western, educated ones -- whereas the Kurds in both countries, as well as in Iraq have a birthrate around 4. Even the Palestinians are having significantly fewer children than a generation ago, such that the population in the territories a few years ago was discovered to be about a million less than claimed.
Posted by trailing wife 2012-12-12 15:45||   2012-12-12 15:45|| Front Page Top

#15 Utah Uber Alles!
Posted by Shipman 2012-12-12 18:05||   2012-12-12 18:05|| Front Page Top

#16 WORLD NEWS > [Washinton Times] END OF THE AMERICAN SUPERPOWER, vee NIC's "Global Trends 2030: Alternative Worlds" Report.

ARTIC > USA = OBAMA Admin is intentionally choosing to empower or induce US DECLINE, FUTURE WILL INDEED "BELONG TO CHINA" OR OTHER NON-US UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES.

and

* SAME > [CNN.com] US TO FACE 2030 AS "FIRST AMONG EQUALS".

That remains to be seen, as per the old saying "Some may be/end up being more 'Equal' than Others" - THE SO-CALLED "UNIPOLAR WORLD" OF THE 20TH CENTURY + COLD WAR MAY ENDING, BUTS ITS NOT CLEAR WHAT IS REPLACING IT, OR IFF GENUINE WORLD PEACE WILL BE THE OUTCOME???

* WAFF > [StrategyPage] THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING US NAVY.

ARTIC = denotes that current + future USDOD budgets will not be enough to support either the US Gepol agenda or that of the Navy as a uniformed service, THE BIGGEST PROB FOR THE US NAVY LEADERSHIP IS THE NAVY LEADERSHIP.

Iff Navy vessels were "oily" before, they may be moreso as per anti-GWCC special lubes, paints, + cleaners???

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > THE US WANTS OUT OF [China-vs-Japan] PACIFIC ISLANDS MESSES.

Once again, either China backs down, or China + PLA will start shooting, to which History suggests the latter is more likely.

D *** NG IT, WHATS THE US GONNA DO - SINK STRATEGIC PACIFIC ISLANDS, E.G. GUAM, WID EARTHQUAKE/TECTONIC BOMBS AS IT RETREATS OR PULLS BACK ACROSS THE PACIFIC TO CONUS!

[1960's = 1990's DESTRUCTION OF THE BATTLESHIP OKLAHOMA: THEME FROM "TITANIC" [Celine Dion] = "GUAM WILL CAPSIZE" FROM MARINE BUILDUP
here].

Milwaukee + Michelle's Brigade paging HUGO ...
Posted by JosephMendiola 2012-12-12 23:10||   2012-12-12 23:10|| Front Page Top

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