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Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-10 07:11||
#4 I cannot believe Petraeus was naive enough to have left a trail of what has been called steamy personal emails which the FBI then investigated related to a bigger investigation. C'mon, the guy was the head of the CIA. I've also heard that CIA insiders were never happy with his promotion to top spook over long time career people. He said he was happy to testify before Congress and all of a sudden he is not going to testify. Sounds like the kind of choice Rommel was given by Hitler, a brutal death and an ignonimy or cyanide and a heroes funeral--Rommel chose cyanide. We have had famous generals in the past who had affairs in theater such as Eisenhower and others. These things don't make a big splash. Was Obama trying to groom the Democratic Party for its candidate whoever it is in 2016 by knocking off a possible Republican contender, Petraeus. Don't know, just asking.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-10 07:25||
#5 Paula Broadwell is a ring knocker from West Point. Author of "All In." Married, mother of two. Lives in Charlotte, N.C. Ph.D. candidate at London school. Fitness buff. Doesn't seem like a security threat. Michael Yon said he knew her in Afghanistan and there were rumors then.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-10 08:20||
Many of the school's alumni have gone on to careers in international service:
Condoleezza Rice - 66th U.S. Secretary of State; former National Security Advisor; former provost, Stanford University
George W. Casey, Jr. - Chief of Staff of the United States Army.
Cindy Courville - U.S. Ambassador to the African Union; former special assistant to President George W. Bush and senior director for African Affairs, National Security Council; former senior intelligence officer, Office of the Chief of Staff, Defense Intelligence Agency
Captain Gail Harris - Former U.S. naval officer, the highest-ranking African American female in the United States Navy upon her retirement in December 2001.
Jami Miscik - Former Deputy Director for Intelligence at the CIA, Vice-Chairman of Kissinger Associates, Inc. in New York.
Masouma Al-Mubarak - Minister of Communications and former Minister of Planning & Minister of State for Administrative Development Affairs of Kuwait.
Heraldo Mu├▒oz - Permanent Representative of Chile to the United Nations; Assistant Secretary-General and Director of the Regional Bureau for Latin America and the Caribbean of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP).
Paul Trivelli - Former U.S. Ambassador to Nicaragua.
Susan Waltz - Professor of public policy, Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy, University of Michigan; former chair, Amnesty International, International Executive Committee; board member, American Friends Service Committee.
M. Javad Zarif - Former Permanent Representative of Iran to the United Nations. Paula Dean Kranz Broadwell - Author, archivist and biographer of retired General and former CIA director David Petraeus
Michelle Kwan - U.S. Olympic Figure Skater and current State Department employee.
Guy Padgett - Former mayor of Casper, Wyoming; the state's first openly-gay elected official
Posted by Besoeker 2012-11-10 12:07||
#15 To me it seems pretty obvious that Ogabe attempted to blackmail Petraeus. Because what he knows could get Ogabe impeached. Petraeus had to come clean to have any credibility as a witness, if he is ever to assist in bringing that about. I think Ogabe's probable malfeasance is the real issue - the affair is just a distraction. A man doesn't just suddenly burn his whole life to the ground unless he has something very important to say.
Posted by RandomJD 2012-11-10 12:51||
#16 two possibilities ...
1. the Administration knew the inside story, but did not want this thing to surface until after the Nov election.
Or, as some here are speculating -
2. Patraeus is a fall guy because of Benghazi and internal CIA politics.
too early to tell which is right. but the truth will come out sooner or later.
Posted by Raider 2012-11-10 13:24||
#17 You can bet your ass the Director of the FBI informed POTUS the instant a cloud came over General Petreaus. The narrative that somehow POTUS knew nothing until Petreaus contacted him this week is nonsensical.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-11-10 13:31||
#18 Has he ever heard of PGP?
Posted by European Conservative 2012-11-10 13:46||
#19 #16: the link in #9 strongly suggests the first possibility. But what is the FBI doing spying on the CIA?
Posted by RandomJD 2012-11-10 14:11||
#20 The director of the FBI did not inform the President directly. He informed his boss, the Attorney General, Herr Halter, and the AG informed POTUS
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2012-11-10 14:48||
#21 "Ahhh excuse me Chief. I think we're gonna need the Cone of Silence for this one".
Posted by Raider 2012-11-10 16:53||
#22 Pretty simple - I've been saying this here for how long? The CIA needs to be dismantled and rebuilt properly - there are too much politics and empire/silo building going on.
Posted by OldSpook 2012-11-10 17:03||
#23 FBI had to know about this before he was confirmed CIA. Which means AG knew. which means Zero knew. He was probably even nominated with that knowledge in pocket, meaning they would always have leverage over him if they needed it.
Now that it's out and he's out, they still have leverage - his pension, and conceivably jail time or other punishment if he testifies without permission (NDA) which he won't get. So they probably won't subpoena him.
Next 'coincidence' - seems his wife works in the WH - did she know and exert revenge?
Posted by Glenmore 2012-11-10 17:17||
The book began as research for her dissertation, a case study of Petraeus' leadership. It evolved into an authorized biography written with Washington Post editor Vernon Loeb after President Barack Obama put Petraeus in charge of Afghanistan in 2010.
Hmmm. MSM involvement. Does anyone else smell a media-directed honey trap here?
Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2012-11-10 17:31||
#25 In one of threads of one of the links, I read Ms. Broadwell did a stint with black ops. No much more was mentioned. Maybe that meant the lights were out in this entire steamy affair. Or maybe she did do a stint with the CIA at some time. The FBI had to know Petraeus had this in his background prior to confirmation. They do a fairly thorough job when vetting. Its just elected presidents who don't get vetted.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-10 18:15||
#26 She's hotter than a Franklin stove.
Good one, Besoeker. That's even more creative than a description I read of Courtney Love being "as crazy as a wolverine in a sleeping bag."
At least Petraeus had better taste in side dishes than this guy.
Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2012-11-10 18:25||
#27 The thing is ... that they could have given Petraeus a graceful exit - especially this past week. He could have been allowed to step down quietly. With all the changes in the Administration after the election - it would have gone unnoticed.
They decided to let him take a stake through the heart instead.
Posted by Raider 2012-11-10 18:30||
#28 If the affair started before Petraeus was appointed D/CIA, how could the FBI not have found out during the routine background check?
If they found out then Obama knew about it and might have chosen Petraeus anyway because he could be blackmailed by the Obama administration.
However D/CIA must be confirmed by the Senate. Doesn't the Senate Intelligence Committee get the same FBI background check report as the President?
Why is this news to the senators then?
So did the FBI miss an affair (not hidden too well) of a prospective D/CIA, or did the FBI actually lie to the Senate?
Something doesn't add up.
Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2012-11-10 18:57||
#29 Discredit the witness.
If the witness goes ahead and testifies with negatives against Hussein, blame it on a now "disgruntled former employee". After all, it is all about Obama and not the lifetime service of a US Military 4 Star General who did more for America, which is less important to this corrupt regine that is harboring Obama who is doing all he can to complete the total destruction of America.
Posted by Bugs Uleger6376 2012-11-10 18:58||
#30 If he can't keep one oath (Love, Honor and Cherish) how can we trust that he'll keep another (Defend and Protect)? Same grievance I had with WJ Clinton. Me, I'd prosecute to the full extent of the law.
Posted by Glenmore 2012-11-10 20:05||
#31 If he can't keep one oath (Love, Honor and Cherish) how can we trust that he'll keep another (Defend and Protect)?
The weight of history is against you, Glenmore. History is full of men who held fast to their duty, giving even the last, full measure of devotion, while having a little somethin-somethin on the side.
Posted by Angie Schultz 2012-11-10 21:00||
#32 they could have given Petraeus a graceful exit
pour encourager les autres
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2012-11-10 22:04||
#33 "lifetime service of a US Military 4 Star General"
that's the part i'm having a big problem with. Here's a man who dedicated his life to his country and served us overseas with distinction. Yet he gets fed to the wolves like this?? It shows a singular lack of respect for a lifetime of honorable service. OK - he messed up. But it could have been handled quietly and let the man retain some dignity.
Posted by Raider 2012-11-10 23:57||
#34 The purpose of PAtreus' resignation in this fashion is to suck up the news cycle. It gets the ones focused on Benghazi off track and provides "blocking" for all the other dopes in America that voted for the guy. He is impeachable overt this, but to impeach you will need popular support. Look for another cycle sucker in a few days.
Posted by jefe101 2012-11-11 00:07||