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2011-09-24 Olde Tyme Religion

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-09-24 02:25|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 I would never suggest that nuclear weapons are the "only alternative". Instead, a much more reasonable alternative is "let mother nature handle it."

One of the most bizarre elements of Christianity based culture is the absolute rejection of the idea of natural selection. This has resulted on a world-wide scale in creating catastrophes that would never have happened without strong human intervention.

By western efforts, perhaps 3 or even 4 billion more people live on Earth than would have lived otherwise, many of the Muslim, most of them perpetually poor and distraught.

The western world feeds them, provides them with water, gives them medicines that prevent death and extend life of people who *should* have died, if just left to their own resources.

And in the process of doing so, we have overwhelmed local ecosystems, throwing them completely out of balance with what they can support on their own, and created vast numbers of people in perpetual dependency.

We should, collectively, stop doing this. Just stop feeding and giving medicine to overpopulated nations that hate and attack us.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-09-24 09:45|| 2011-09-24 09:45|| Front Page Top

#2 We can't buy their love?

Someone should tell the Prez!

Posted by Bobby 2011-09-24 09:52|| 2011-09-24 09:52|| Front Page Top

#3 David Goldman, aka 'Spengler,' has just published a new book, "How Civilizations Die: (And Why Islam Is Dying Too)" with an utterly different perspective on what Islam's future might be.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-09-24 10:44|| 2011-09-24 10:44|| Front Page Top

#4 Spengler ignores how they breed in Europe.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-09-24 12:00|| 2011-09-24 12:00|| Front Page Top

#5 Nukes are a last resort. I don't think anybody is ready for them...yet. Countries like Iran and Pakistan are doing their best to prep us for it. But the problem with nukes is that they will make large areas of the planet uninhabitable. It's like curing the patient by killing him.

Better to disengage, separate and isolate. As for g(r)omguru's comment, yes, that would mean not letting them migrate to Europe or America. In the days before Nixon went to China they called it containment. Those guys who flew the airplanes into the Twin Towers should have never even been allowed into this country. Slap them back hard when they get out of line but otherwise leave them alone. Keep the damn mofo's out of here and, in fact, start deporting them. Leave them alone and see if they can ever figure it out for themselves. Check back in a thousand years or so.

Anonymoose makes an interesting point about short circuiting natural selection by feeding, watering and medicating people who would otherwise die. But I wouldn't call it Christianity. It isn't charity or Christianity or anything else except plain old theft if the government takes your money at the point of a gun so they can give it to Pakistanis and Palestinians. That needs to stop. Who knows? If they get hungry enough they might become a little more reasonable.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2011-09-24 13:39|| 2011-09-24 13:39|| Front Page Top

#6 The US-LED GWOT = RADICAL ISLAM'S REGIONAL, GLOBAL JIHAD will end when ISLAM RULES, OR ISLAM IS DESTROYED.

IMO prolly safe to say > SAFE COROLLARY/SUBTENET = IT WILL END WHEN RADICAL ISLAM/JIHADISTS DECIDE VIOLENT OR MILITARY-LED JIHAD IS OBSOLETE.

The only camp that thinks the Jihad is over or defeated because the US Navy SEALS killed Osama is the US + its Allies.

E.G. MEMRI.ORG [old] > TALIBAN STATEMENT ON TENTH ANNIVERSARY OF 9-11 ATTACKS: "AFGHANS HAVE ENDLESS STAMINA FOR LONG WAR AND .... WE WILL SEND THE AMERICANS INTO THE DUSTBIN OF HISTORY".

The various, differentiated ingredients for creating [anti/post-US?] OWG NUCLEAR CALIPHATE is in the bowl + getting prepped for mix.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-09-24 21:42|| 2011-09-24 21:42|| Front Page Top

#7 I am pleased that Zenster found a blogging home, because his financial approach adds a necessary dimension to how we think about the war against the jihadis. His need to pick fights with Pappy and lotp, among others, was a clear signal that subconsciously he came to realize he needed to spend his time elsewhere than Rantburg.

In terms of this essay (I haven't yet read parts 2 & 3, which are apparently available) I would argue that we need not resort to nukes to accomplish our goal. Daisy Cutters, bunker busters and the like will accomplish rubble bouncing well enough, without long term damage to the landscape... we need only decide to manufacture enough to achieve the purpose. For that matter, if we want to destroy ISI HQ, various terrorist camps, and known safe houses -- not to mention whatever other targets might suit our fancy -- guided cement bombs would be adequate for most purposes, and they are nearly as cheap as dirt, and nearly as easy to manufacture, I should think.

Posted by trailing wife 2011-09-24 21:46|| 2011-09-24 21:46|| Front Page Top

#8 Nuclear weapons represent the sole existing and cost-effective way of managing hostilities with some 1.6 billion people.

Nukes are the go-to for the strategically incompetent.

Posted by Pappy 2011-09-24 21:56|| 2011-09-24 21:56|| Front Page Top

#9 Still, Pappy, for a "religion" that places so much stock in certain physical locations on this planets, glassing a few of them and irradiating them to uninhabitability for centuries does require some thought, minimizing human casualties, of course. If we lost rome, we would not lose Catholicism. But if they lose Mecca...

A small nuke is enough to melt the central feature into nothing, and "seeding" with long lived radioisotopes to sterilize the surrounding miles s enough to prevent the Haji for generations.

Its the one response we positively should take if Pakistan or Iran does deliver and detonatate a nuke - and let them know in advance that Mecca is only the beginning of the eradication of Islam from the planet.

Posted by OldSpook 2011-09-24 23:45|| 2011-09-24 23:45|| Front Page Top

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