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2011-04-01 Fifth Column
Not an April Fool’s joke: Stalinists are speaking at NYU
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Posted by Beavis 2011-04-01 09:11|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 Heh. You seem surprised, hon.
Wanna buy a bridge?
Posted by tu3031 2011-04-01 09:53||   2011-04-01 09:53|| Front Page Top

#2 Traditionally, in the Lower East Side, Stalinists were seen as moderate to liberal. Trotskyites as moderate to conservative.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2011-04-01 11:42||   2011-04-01 11:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Stalinist supporters will be speaking at NYU

Barack Obama is speaking at NYU?
Posted by Frozen Al 2011-04-01 12:03||   2011-04-01 12:03|| Front Page Top

#4 Leon Trotsky was born Lev Davidovich Bronshtein on 7 November 1879, a small village 15 miles (24 km) from the nearest post office. He was the fifth child of a well-to-do farmer, David Leontyevich Bronshtein (1847–1922) and Anna Bronshtein (1850–1910). The family was Jewish but reportedly not religious....
- Wikipedia as of April 1 2011.

Jews (particularly Russian Jews) and Communism, now theres a fun group! Hey kids er Komrade, lets plays us some dreidel. Anyone with a Judaic studies grounding care to take a crack at why the J and the big C seem to J Date with high frequency?
Posted by Fi  2011-04-01 12:04||   2011-04-01 12:04|| Front Page Top

#5 Jews tend to take leading roles in most philosophical movements, Fi. We're a philosophical people, so we're trained in the skillz. I've been waiting for you to follow up about why that rabbi wasn't interested in converting you, but you never did.
Posted by trailing wife  2011-04-01 13:17||   2011-04-01 13:17|| Front Page Top

#6 Where's the hammer? I can't get the Surprise Meter to budge. We got a bunch of Stalinists and Maoists in OB's administration.
Posted by JohnQC 2011-04-01 13:31||   2011-04-01 13:31|| Front Page Top

#7 Face it, folks, Stalin is a fascinating historical figure and without his help most of Europe would most likely be speaking German today. Er...that is NOT to say that I endorse his politics.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2011-04-01 13:56||   2011-04-01 13:56|| Front Page Top

#8 The only thing surprising here is that these history illiterate semi-morons know who Stalin was.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-04-01 14:13||   2011-04-01 14:13|| Front Page Top

#9 There are a lot of Stalinists/Trotskyites with tenure in US higher education, why was this news?
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-04-01 14:27||   2011-04-01 14:27|| Front Page Top

#10 why that rabbi wasn't interested in converting you, but you never did.

At heart, Im Christian. Got right with God, family left Judaism before I was born. Had my doubts awhile ago, though of exploring returning to Judaism, but ultimately wasn't compelled enough. Wanted to feel good about the Judaic end of things, but it just hasn't materialized.

Why DO certain elements in the Judaic community gravitate towards Communism and Ponzi schemes? Those two aforementioned things seem to be pinnacles of "anti" intellectualism. Something in the Judaic religion has been hijacked and tainted. Not sure what. Or maybe its a systematic perverse mindset wherein ponzi schemes and communism is what the Jews may view as giving praise to their own birthright of "intellectual superiority" and those are mere vehicles to suppress nonbeliever. Either way, no bueno.
Posted by Fi  2011-04-01 14:59||   2011-04-01 14:59|| Front Page Top

#11 Can't wait for the academic forum on the benefits and glory of Southern Plantation Slavery. /sarc off
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-04-01 15:46||   2011-04-01 15:46|| Front Page Top

#12 Why DO certain elements in the Judaic community gravitate towards Communism and Ponzi schemes?

Because 3000 years of victimization has driven them mad enough to believe that a just society---where "all men are brothers" is possible.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-04-01 16:10||   2011-04-01 16:10|| Front Page Top

#13 Grom, with the stipulation that some brothers are more brothers than others. I mean in other sense than in regards to law.

It is funny that it usaully comes to bite them. In 1953, after the show trials in Czechoslovakia, the newspaper listed the names and sentences.

It went like this:
Name, Jew, Death by hanging
Name, Jew, Death by hanging
...

Just like during nazi occupation not even a decade decade ago.
Posted by twobyfour 2011-04-01 16:42||   2011-04-01 16:42|| Front Page Top

#14 I didn't mean mad = angry. But mad = insane.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-04-01 16:49||   2011-04-01 16:49|| Front Page Top

#15 Funny = ironic. Funny as in fun it ain't.

What's the culprit? Pride (as in arrogance). Having an IQ one or two standard deviation above he rest does not buy one a smidget of wisdom.
Posted by twobyfour 2011-04-01 17:05||   2011-04-01 17:05|| Front Page Top

#16 Grom, I did read you correct.
Posted by twobyfour 2011-04-01 17:07||   2011-04-01 17:07|| Front Page Top

#17 Professor H. Bruce Franklin of Rutgers has called Stalin “one of the greatest heroes of modern history

Rutgers University also paid Nicole "Snooki" Polizzi of the reality TV show "Jersey Shore" $32,000 for showing up.

Rutger's standards for an educational experience for students aren't too high. Hope this doesn't come out of the student activity fee. Students got hosed.
Posted by JohnQC 2011-04-01 17:18||   2011-04-01 17:18|| Front Page Top

#18 Rutgers Class of 85 here - it is absolutely coming out of student fees.

I'm so proud /sarc
Posted by Hellfish 2011-04-01 17:38||   2011-04-01 17:38|| Front Page Top

#19 Point of information: the correct terminology is the Jewish community, not Judaic, Hebraic, or Israelite.

Elements of the Jewish community gravitate toward capitalism and democracy, too -- the same idealism expressed in a different way. This has been complained about extensively, and at several points in history Jews have been hung for it... or immortalized in Shakespearean plays. *shrug* That's what happens to minorities which refuse to disappear.

Or maybe its a systematic perverse mindset


Way to tar an entire people for the sins of a few, my dear. I've been polite to you, thinking you were just expressing childhood hurts out of ignorance, because I'm idealistic. But really, you stride gleefully beyond the pale.
Posted by trailing wife 2011-04-01 19:22||   2011-04-01 19:22|| Front Page Top

#20 A people aren't "tarred." And I said "elements" which refers to a part not a whole. Soros very well might be tarred though. Throw in Bernanke. Its whatever. Christianity has the likes of Westboro. So you have some jackasses amongst you. Its not worth getting all bent out of shape and trying to come at me over. Im a high performance woman, I can go from zero to bitch in about 2 seconds. Please don't tempt me.
Posted by Fi  2011-04-01 20:07||   2011-04-01 20:07|| Front Page Top

#21 heh. I don't think you get it. Your 2 seconds just passed.
Posted by Frank G 2011-04-01 20:14||   2011-04-01 20:14|| Front Page Top

#22 Some University Scolars had argued that an alternate name{s] for the HYSKOS whom invaded + occupied ancient Egypt was "HEBRAU/HEBU", i.e. "HEBREWS" in the modern spelling - does that count???

The theory is that these abovesame later devol from Conquerors of Egypt to becom Partners + Allies of Egypt once the locals were able to successfully regain power in their own land , in sociopolitical alliance including intermarriage + power-sharing, etc. which ultimately broke down oer time due to the Hebrau's adoption of religious monotheism vee the Egyptian-perceived heretic PHAROAH AKHENATEN, + also great regional natural disasters???

[CHARLESTON HESTON + "TEN COMMANDMENTS" here].
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-04-01 20:28|| na  2011-04-01 20:28|| Front Page Top

#23 "Hebiru", JosephM. "The dusty ones", the Egyptian term for the various nomadic tribes, of which Abrahams lot were only one. That's the theory as I understand it, anyway. The last I read, which isn't all that up to date, there are contemporaneous Egyptian references to the "House of David" during the reign of one of the unimportant kings of Judah.
Posted by trailing wife 2011-04-01 22:50||   2011-04-01 22:50|| Front Page Top

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