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2011-01-23 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Fred 2011-01-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 Can we speculate as to whether He is the anti-Christ?

Posted by SteveS 2011-01-23 00:15|| 2011-01-23 00:15|| Front Page Top

#2 I would like to see it, but I think he was born in Hawaii.

I will just settle for the fact he is a liberal dipshit that has no real understanding or desire to know how the real world works and prefers to lead from his fantasy.

Posted by DarthVader 2011-01-23 00:19|| 2011-01-23 00:19|| Front Page Top

#3 Yawn! Obama's mom was a US citizen, therefore he's a US citizen. End of story.

Posted by CincinnatusChili 2011-01-23 00:59|| 2011-01-23 00:59|| Front Page Top

#4 seems to me that Governor dumbass went and fanned the flames on this by promising more than he could deliver.

if he kept his trap shut this would die down. by promising to present the documentation then not delivering he has put up the impression that something is being hidden.

that does not mean there is something to hide, but the promise then the vague 'documents' that wont be made public sure gives the impression that something is up.

Posted by abu do you love 2011-01-23 01:01|| 2011-01-23 01:01|| Front Page Top

#5 Obama could stop this birth certificate issue in it's tracks. But why should he? As long as it simmers the left can paint the right as a bunch of birther crazies.

The long form certificate might show up at a strategic time in the 2012 campaign.

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2011-01-23 02:15|| 2011-01-23 02:15|| Front Page Top

#6 To point of secrecy is not birthplace, it's the name appearing (if any) in the space for "father", Darth.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-01-23 04:26|| 2011-01-23 04:26|| Front Page Top

#7 I don't get it. You have to provide a birth certificate to join the military but he doesn't have to show one to be the Commander in Chief and send you to war?

And no, gromgoru, it is about not who the father is, though that may be another interesting aspect to this story, it is the fact that the Hawaii governor and another HI Records official have publically made it clear that there is not a long certificate on file nor any record from the hospitals in Hawaii on his birth.

I don't see the reason to act smug when you mock those who point out the obvious. It doesn't matter if he has one or not. The point is that I have to present a birth certificate to get a driver's license and the POTUS should have to present one as well. What makes him above the law?

Posted by Martini 2011-01-23 04:52|| 2011-01-23 04:52|| Front Page Top

#8 Barry is obviously above the rules and laws that govern the rest of us. Personally I think the reason he doesn't put this to rest, assuming he can, is out of disdain and arrogance. Either that or the BC has something icky on it like "Muslim" under religion deal or whatever.

Posted by Jefferson 2011-01-23 06:58|| 2011-01-23 06:58|| Front Page Top

#9 Gov. Neil Abercrombie, a Democrat who was a friend of Obama's parents and knew him as a child, launched an effort last month to find a way to dispel conspiracy theories that the president was born elsewhere.

No, he didn't. He blew a 'dog-whistle' which attracted enough attention from birthers to allow the left-wing press to smear anyone to the right of them as kooks.

The Governor knew darn well he couldn't release private records. This was a very simple play, and he played it well.

Posted by Free Radical 2011-01-23 07:46|| 2011-01-23 07:46|| Front Page Top

#10 Yet, the Illinois Donks got the sealed portions of divorce proceedings opened to remove former Govenor Ryan (R) from the Senate race of which Obama was their candidate. Now what's this issue about privacy? /rhet question

Different Ryan; Jack, not George. AoS.

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-01-23 08:39|| 2011-01-23 08:39|| Front Page Top

#11 #3 Yawn! Obama's mom was a US citizen, therefore he's a US citizen. End of story.
Posted by CincinnatusChili

...and an Indonesian citizen, and a Kenyan Citizen....and, and, and.....

Posted by Besoeker 2011-01-23 09:11|| 2011-01-23 09:11|| Front Page Top

#12 You have to provide a birth certificate to join the military but he doesn't have to show one to be the Commander in Chief and send you to war?

If you consider that OBumbles probably wouldn't be given any sort of security clearance if he wasn't President (or Senator) based on his association with a known, unrepentant, terrorist (Ayers) and his history.

Posted by CrazyFool 2011-01-23 09:32|| 2011-01-23 09:32|| Front Page Top

#13 The Constitution does not say so much that he must be a US Citizen, or that his parent(s) must be born in the US, but that HE (or she) must be born in the US.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2011-01-23 10:14|| 2011-01-23 10:14|| Front Page Top

#14 Rambler, it states that the person must be a natural born citizen. The problem is it does not specify what a natural born citizen is.

Posted by BernardZ 2011-01-23 10:17|| 2011-01-23 10:17|| Front Page Top

#15 Lucianne has a link today from a blog that posits that the issue behind not showing the birth certificate is that the name on it was changed to Barry Soetto (sp?) when he was adopted, and since he never legally changed it (back) to Barak Obama it would be embarassing.

Personally I don't care where he was born. It's his actions that offends me.

Posted by Mercutio 2011-01-23 11:23|| 2011-01-23 11:23|| Front Page Top

#16 Maybe he was delivered by caesarian section.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-01-23 11:31|| 2011-01-23 11:31|| Front Page Top

#17 The alternative: Pod People - Traditional Birth Certificates are a thing of the past.

Posted by Goodluck 2011-01-23 11:35|| 2011-01-23 11:35|| Front Page Top

#18 NS, even if he was, what would that have to do with anything? Kids that come into the world like that aren't "born"?

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2011-01-23 11:46|| 2011-01-23 11:46|| Front Page Top

#19 Exactly my point. He wouldn't meet the constitutional requirement of being a natural born Citizen. Probably wasn't breast fed, either. Explains a lot.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-01-23 11:49|| 2011-01-23 11:49|| Front Page Top

#20 I have heard he went to Harvard on a Foreign Student Scholarship. I'm not sure as to the validity of this statement. If so, he either de-frauded his scholarship by being an American Citizen posing as a foreigner in order to receive a scholarship or he was never a citizen to begin with.

Posted by Broadhead6 2011-01-23 11:59|| 2011-01-23 11:59|| Front Page Top

#21 I find it interesting barry's dad was friends with a once and future governor, along with many other interesting acquaintances and happenstance throughout the year...almost like a grooming from the get-go (not necessarily for prez but sure had a lot of lucky bounces).

If caesarian it would make him one of those garlic nosed people his ol' pastor does not like.

Question: if pro-choice, is it required for the parents to file paperwork officially recognizing a fetus as more than a growth, granting rights and privilages?

Posted by swksvolFF 2011-01-23 12:23|| 2011-01-23 12:23|| Front Page Top

#22 meh. I'd rather see his transcripts, his thesis, and who paid for his high dollar education. ~~Manchurian~~ Riyadhian Candidate

Posted by Frank G 2011-01-23 12:53|| 2011-01-23 12:53|| Front Page Top

#23 Kenyan and Indonesian Citizan...

So he is a kenyesian!

And yes it is crazy about proof of citizenship. It is out there, needed that stuff for a passport, DL, and de fact everytime needed ID for check writing, buying a beer or pack of smokes, registering class schedule, purchase of a house.

What should piss people off is that holding public office, person should be open to public scrutiny. It is not barry's lack of info which rubs me, it is that it has been decided to not be shared and that is a big red mistrust flag. It is the courtesy of proof of contract in everything from renting a movie to buying a house.

Posted by swksvolFF 2011-01-23 13:28|| 2011-01-23 13:28|| Front Page Top

#24 without a person's consent,

And that is what pisses me off about Obumble. Why do that, why not give consent? Running for the highest office in the land, and we are requesting you birth certificate, just like you'd need to provided for an I-9 working at McDonalds, or (as others mentioned) to join the military (in the role of Commander in Chief)

Its the absolutely narcissistic ARROGANCE of that empty-suited, crooked, Chicago machine-pol, shallow, moronic, popinjay occupying the White House that really angers me.

I'd love to be able to pop him one right in the nose. Hard.

Posted by OldSpook 2011-01-23 14:04|| 2011-01-23 14:04|| Front Page Top

#25 I could give a flying F on weather Obumbles is a natural born citizen or not.

What I am concerned about is what else is being hidden? Why would O need to hide his birth certificate so badly? And his school records?

The MF MSM refuses to go into any of his background. Not the birth certificate or his school records. Why? What is so horrible that it needs to be hidden so badly? If anything.

I think its more than simply respecting his 'privacy'. They sure didn't flinch from invading the privacy of Sarah Palin and her family - even to her grandson's 'other' grandmother.

You would think that 'investigative reporters' from the MSM would be slavering at the bit for a chance to investigate this.

But something is scaring them off.

Ok next question - does this tinfoil hat make my butt look fat?

Posted by CrazyFool 2011-01-23 14:08|| 2011-01-23 14:08|| Front Page Top

#26 once again (sigh) the issue is that people entering the military, applying for a drivers license, passport or other documents don't have the right to scream racist, bigot, birther, conspiracy or any other holier-than-thou chant. They just have to put up or shut up and produce the damn document.

All attempts to wave this away are allowing that Obama (or any other presidential candidate) is more important than the rest of us and somehow immune to such basic scrutiny.

What the hell is wrong with you people who think that asking him to produce a certificate proving his eligibility is somehow an unreasonable request?

Posted by Martini 2011-01-23 17:22|| 2011-01-23 17:22|| Front Page Top

#27 UPDATE Republican House Majority Leader Cantor said today he believes Barack Hussein "may" be a citizen of the United States...

Posted by Slusonter tse Tung3060 2011-01-23 17:23|| 2011-01-23 17:23|| Front Page Top

#28 so freaking what? How does that change what I just wrote above?

Posted by Martini 2011-01-23 17:37|| 2011-01-23 17:37|| Front Page Top

#29 oops - sorry. Didn't meant to shoot the messenger. Thanks for the update.

Posted by Martini 2011-01-23 18:15|| 2011-01-23 18:15|| Front Page Top

#30 The 2008 election was the first one where any candidate had multiple passports or was born outside of U.S. territory, so neither political party had the idea of needing to check citizenship. Recall, there were questions raised about John McCain, too, because he was born in Panama. Fortunately, he was born on a U.S. army base (or navy, air force, whatever -- in these cases for us civilians, "army" covers the entire range of American forces, ok?), which is U.S. territory.

I have begun to wonder if someone didn't at some point wander in to the Hawaiian Bureau of Birth Statistics and steal his birth certificate, just to make sure things would never be proved. His grandparents and their friends were active Stalinists, after all, and this is just the kind of stupid spy game one of them might have thought clever... only forgetting to replace the stolen document with ~~an exact copy~~ one that didn't have whatever information they thought incriminating.

After all, if there was a notation in the log about the birth certificate, there should have been some kind of certificate there, no matter where he was born. The State Department should have something on file, too, attached to his first passport application when he moved to Indonesia... It's long enough ago that WikiLeaks probably hasn't managed to get hold of that particular file.

Posted by trailing wife 2011-01-23 19:26|| 2011-01-23 19:26|| Front Page Top

#31 Cincy - wrong - read the law.

Martini - A very good question.

Has anyone tried a freedom of information request with the state department? He needed it for his passport.

Posted by Hellfish 2011-01-23 20:03|| 2011-01-23 20:03|| Front Page Top

#32 Good question, indeed, Martini.

And, yes, Hellfish, somebody did. Google Phil Berg. As I recall, the final ruling was that he did not have "standing" in the case and so it was thrown out. I don't know how the judge reached that conclusion. Seems to me that anybody who is a registered voter at the time of the election would have had a legitimate standing. This whole story stinks to high heaven.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2011-01-23 20:28|| 2011-01-23 20:28|| Front Page Top

#33 This is all dumb. Just pass a law in your state that anyone wanting to run for President in your state has to file proof of qualification for office along with the requisite petition signatures and forms. Then to be re-elected Obama will have to turn up the papers or not run in your state and give up on your state's electoral votes.

The end.

Posted by rammer 2011-01-23 22:46|| 2011-01-23 22:46|| Front Page Top

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