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2010-11-13 Europe
Nation states are dead
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Posted by tipper 2010-11-13 02:37|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 The elite believe the Nation State is dead and will be replaced by One World Government. I say if the Nation State is dead it will be replaced by anarchy and tribalism.
Posted by Glenmore 2010-11-13 08:27||   2010-11-13 08:27|| Front Page Top

#2 I think the credentialled (cos the one thing they're not is elite) are over-stepping again (like AGW-scam) their heads are all booked for a long free stay at the top of a pike.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2010-11-13 10:46||   2010-11-13 10:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Their nation-states are dead. Mine isn't.
Posted by Steve White 2010-11-13 11:15||   2010-11-13 11:15|| Front Page Top

#4 The only death-of-the-nation-state the Chinese seem to be interested in is other people's.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2010-11-13 11:20||   2010-11-13 11:20|| Front Page Top

#5 Well, Herman, ever think that Euroscepticism exists and is spreading because of twits like you?
Posted by tu3031 2010-11-13 11:35||   2010-11-13 11:35|| Front Page Top

#6 One World Government.

are you trying to summon the Mendiola?
Posted by Frank G 2010-11-13 11:59||   2010-11-13 11:59|| Front Page Top

#7 This is what Soros has been trying to achieve by destroying smaller nations economies and tearing down the social fabric of the US.
Posted by OldSpook 2010-11-13 12:23||   2010-11-13 12:23|| Front Page Top

#8 A big problem that socialists have is their disdain for history, which they openly regard as an enemy. They always assume that people will lead better lives if they are stripped of institutions that have existed for hundreds, even thousands of years.

It never, ever crosses their mind that there are very good reasons for such institutions to exist.

For example, marriage is "just a social convention", of no real value. But the fact that marriage is a superior biological mechanism utterly escapes them. So time and time again, they try to have things like "free love", that lasts all of five minutes before everybody is sick of it.

The same with the idea of nations. They just cannot wrap their heads around the idea that there are reasons for nations to exist, that borders were not just selected at random.

Unfortunately, this leads to the really bad idea that the reason people are different is because they have unique cultures, religions, traditions, etc. So by getting rid of these, "generic" people will result. The equality of the gray, which is just as bad as you might imagine.

Fortunately, the vast majority of people are, and remain, nationalistic. They love their country, its culture, its uniqueness, and see no real purpose or joy in becoming generic, faceless people.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2010-11-13 13:06||   2010-11-13 13:06|| Front Page Top

#9 'moose, I think the vast majority of people are, in their core, tribal, and nationalism is a veneer that helps control tribal conflicts to the benefit of most of the tribes. I also think there are limits to the size of a functional nation: the European Union and the former USSR seem to have exceeded it. The US would have too, except for the extreme mobility of our population throughout our relatively brief history.
Posted by Glenmore 2010-11-13 13:53||   2010-11-13 13:53|| Front Page Top

#10 Except Palestine, of course.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-11-13 16:13||   2010-11-13 16:13|| Front Page Top

#11 Herman Van Rompuy, the guy who thinks he's got the number you have to call when you call Europe.

Really.
Posted by European Conservative 2010-11-13 16:15||   2010-11-13 16:15|| Front Page Top

#12 Van Rompuy? Sounds Belgian. Does he bugger children?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-11-13 16:23||   2010-11-13 16:23|| Front Page Top

#13 He's Belgian. From that country that can't even get its own shit together but pretends to rule Europe.
Posted by European Conservative 2010-11-13 19:07||   2010-11-13 19:07|| Front Page Top

#14 Pretty funny to think that a country that can't overcome the cultural barriers between the Dutch speakers and the French speakers in its own country thinks that it will somehow overcome the cultural barriers of the entire world and rule over it instead.
Posted by Black Charlie Chinemble5313 2010-11-13 23:06||   2010-11-13 23:06|| Front Page Top

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