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2010-09-04 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Arabs believe Israel taking land as punishment for violence

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Posted by 2010-09-04 10:48|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 When you're bad, you lose a toy.

Even a child understands that.

Paleostains will no doubt take a considerable time to comprehend it.

Posted by bigjim-CA 2010-09-04 13:00|| 2010-09-04 13:00|| Front Page Top

#2 Heck they still haven't gotten past that whole cause - effect thingy.

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-09-04 13:18|| 2010-09-04 13:18|| Front Page Top

#3 The cited article is just propaganda using the 'Zionist invaders' meme, closely related to the 'death to infidels' meme.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-09-04 13:27|| 2010-09-04 13:27|| Front Page Top

#4 If you have a dog that won't stop biting, you smack it on the muzzle. Not too hard: just enough so that it figures out that it's being bad. After a while it will stop.

But dogs are perfectly reasonable creatures.

Posted by Secret Master 2010-09-04 15:33|| 2010-09-04 15:33|| Front Page Top

#5 The cited article is just propaganda

It's the Arab News, so probably, Anguper Hupomosing9418. But the Palestinians, who no longer believe President Obama will be able to force Israel to disgorge land for the possibility of potential future peace, believe there is a cause-and-effect aimed at them. And as the latest polls show the Israelis now believe negotiation at this time is pointless...

Posted by trailing wife 2010-09-04 18:07|| 2010-09-04 18:07|| Front Page Top

#6 Bah. They haven't lost enough....

Posted by Ptah 2010-09-04 18:10|| 2010-09-04 18:10|| Front Page Top

#7 taking their lives hasn't seemed to focus them on the problem with their behavior, taking their land seems to get their attention, barely. Take their land til they behave or have no more

Posted by Frank G 2010-09-04 18:17|| 2010-09-04 18:17|| Front Page Top

#8 I have been proposing the Israelis do this for some time. In Islam, land is the one tangible way to show that someone is a good Muslim. Ideally, to take "new" Muslim land, but under all circumstances, to retain land that has been taken by Muslims. To "lose" "Muslim land" to infidels is the worst thing that could happen to a Muslim. It is complete failure.

Importantly, this singular focus on land above everything else, made absolutely no sense to the Israelis, who have a thousand, ten thousand joys in life, and were willing to offer most of them, but not land.

And this is why there is an impasse.

But if Israelis start to take "Muslim land", it throws the Muslims into an utter panic. Importantly, once "taken", it can never, ever be given back, or the Muslims would go on a feeding frenzy.

Instead, once land is taken, the Israelis negotiating point should be "Now behave, or we'll take *more* of your land."

That, and only that, will get through their thick heads, and may actually lead to armistice, if not peace.

Posted by Anonymoose 2010-09-04 19:21|| 2010-09-04 19:21|| Front Page Top

#9 Some times I wish Israel would just take over the entire area. At least we'd have some stability in the region.

Posted by miscellaneous 2010-09-04 20:31|| 2010-09-04 20:31|| Front Page Top

#10 I have been proposing the Israelis do this for some time.

Yes, you have, Anonymoose. I don't recall this reasoning, though. Thought provoking -- thanks!

Posted by trailing wife 2010-09-04 23:49|| 2010-09-04 23:49|| Front Page Top

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