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2010-03-27 China-Japan-Koreas
S. Korea continues rescue operations on sunken ship
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Posted by Steve White 2010-03-27 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 FOX NEWS is repor that Perts cannot rule out an INTERNAL ENGINE ROOM OR OTHER SHIP SYS EXPLOSION = ACCIDENT AT THIS TIME.
Posted by JosephMenduiola 2010-03-27 00:41||   2010-03-27 00:41|| Front Page Top

#2 cerebral hemorrhages indicates munitions of some type, because an engine explosion would have likely directed the force outward.

The ship's armament consisted of:

Harpoon missiles, 76 millimeter cannons, 30~40 millimeter cannons, Six torpedoes.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2010-03-27 00:53||   2010-03-27 00:53|| Front Page Top

#3 If SKOR vessel was sunk on own accords, I still have questions.

Was this in "marked off territory" by Nork. Was it rogue general? If so it may mean better.
This is kind of a big deal for the nature of proximity and I think we passed the 24/48 threshold here.

It may be war or another corporation going into a death spiral.

I see the dear leader getting ready to play fornication games in hell with satan and think this is more led by some general that wants attention. Either way, find out what he needs.

Kim is gone for all intensive purposes and it is time to intelligently recruit generals from NORK to make sure the NORK has a smooth transition into governmental collapse. And that has already collapsed. There are major rumors of the abandonment of the dear leaders mess right now especially at the top of the chain. And we see some willing participants in the game of becoming governable by rational power. Someone in Langley need be looking this up. Screw this up and you lose Asian Naval role.

Though I can think there is no less than they can have than they already have, it may still be tense. I think they want help overall in the governance of that newly formed (what do you call it? a GULAG).

Either China will do it or they want to continue playing "flyed lyce" jokes on us with it. They presented their plan. They damn well do have responsibility for NORK - they MADE it what it is today.
SORK determines soverign right.

Posted by newc  2010-03-27 03:16||   2010-03-27 03:16|| Front Page Top

#4 Drive and engine for this ship.

Just looking by eyeball: if it broke apart amidships, it very well could have been an engineering casualty.

Posted by OldSpook 2010-03-27 10:21||   2010-03-27 10:21|| Front Page Top

#5 CODOG is Diesle Or Gas. GT is Gs Turbine. DE are Diesel engines. There is a gearing leading into the Diesels and a set of clutches that disengages the diesel when the turbine is engaged for "sprint speed". Diesels are used for routine maneuver and cruise speed.

CODAG are when the engines share the same sham=ft - a bit more complex in gearing but simple in terms of drive.
Posted by OldSpook 2010-03-27 10:26||   2010-03-27 10:26|| Front Page Top

#6 Look at the speed of sinking and the distribution of crewmembers lost in relation to assigned duty stations, as well as the distribution of injuries to assess the cause.
I was taught years ago to be highly dubious of coincidence, and destabilizing NORK, recent N-S confrontations at sea, along with SKOR willingness to be less than forthcoming, adds to this attitude in this case. And as icing to this sad cake, a second vessel fires at "birds" in the area? BS alert is sounding in the background....
Posted by NoMoreBS 2010-03-27 10:38||   2010-03-27 10:38|| Front Page Top

#7 Thank you for the pic and the explain, OS. That helps a guy like me (zero knowledge of ships) understand things much better.
Posted by Mike N. 2010-03-27 10:39||   2010-03-27 10:39|| Front Page Top

#8 Awesome illustration. Shows why all dem smoke staacks are in the middle... I thought it was for asthetics.

tl;dr
The damn machingery of a ship is usally in the center.
Posted by Shipman 2010-03-27 11:14||   2010-03-27 11:14|| Front Page Top

#9 Most important thing is that gas turbine being right about where the ship apparently came apart.

Just saying... conservation of (rotational) energy can be a rough master when a turbine comes apart.
Posted by OldSpook 2010-03-27 13:40||   2010-03-27 13:40|| Front Page Top

#10 Off topic...but some good USN footage to pass along.
Link.
Posted by Besoeker 2010-03-27 14:05||   2010-03-27 14:05|| Front Page Top

#11 The damn machingery of a ship is usally in the center.

Not necessarily. Depends on the purpose of the ship. Many times it's in the aft third of the hull, or the engine rooms are staggered.
Posted by Pappy 2010-03-27 19:22||   2010-03-27 19:22|| Front Page Top

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