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2010-02-18 Caribbean-Latin America
Tory anger at Argentina 'blockade' of Falkland Islands
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Posted by Steve White 2010-02-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top

#1 Not good. Given the Brits are pretty well committed in Afghanistan however reluctantly, they could play the NATO card this time, something the Argies aren't contemplating. A full American task force steaming south isn't something anyone really wants to do, but never underestimate idiots grasping at anything to stay in power. It'll either break NATO or really ding relations south of the border. The problem of entangling alliances.
Posted by Procopius2k 2010-02-18 05:19||   2010-02-18 05:19|| Front Page Top

#2 A full American task force steaming south isn't something anyone really wants to do. Procopius2k

Especially Barry Soetoro.
Posted by Besoeker 2010-02-18 05:35||   2010-02-18 05:35|| Front Page Top

#3 Its just Argentina posturing , no dooubt we will bolster security a bit down there , but nothing to see yet , unless they actually decide to hinder/harrass shipping in the area .

Been there once , aint going again , too old ! 28 years, sure seems like a long time .
Posted by Oscar 2010-02-18 05:38||   2010-02-18 05:38|| Front Page Top

#4 There are only three factors in a fight. Force, Motion, and Timing. Mouth is not one of them.

I remember the Brit troops herding the Argentinian troops into a cold rock pocket and then firing an RPG into the mass of freezing men. A bit brutal but no one wanted to accept their surrender and it was just a bad day. ( That's why the Brits are STILL there and the Argentinians arent). You dont HAVE to accept a surrender, you know. Its entirely up to you.

Argentina has to put up or shut up. They can Belgrano that or get off the pot.
Posted by HeyThere 2010-02-18 06:08||   2010-02-18 06:08|| Front Page Top

#5 "I remember the Brit troops herding the Argentinian troops into a cold rock pocket and then firing an RPG into the mass of freezing men."

What a crock of shit . If you refer to Mount Longden Argie surrender , a very brutal fight which involved a lot of hand to hand . We wouldnt / nor would our commanders let those shennanighans kick off . We treated prisoners took with a reasonable amount of dignity . After all they fought us and although poorly trained , gave a good show , but werent trained to our degree. One thing unites people after a battle like that is what mess we have all found ourselves in , friend and foe alike.

I was at Two Sisters and Harriot (look them up numb nuts), you know nothing but ignorance on that particular battlefield.
Posted by Oscar 2010-02-18 06:29||   2010-02-18 06:29|| Front Page Top

#6 I remember the Brit troops herding the Argentinian troops into a cold rock pocket and then firing an RPG into the mass of freezing men.

Wat a load of kak. Take it elsewhere please.
Posted by Besoeker 2010-02-18 06:40||   2010-02-18 06:40|| Front Page Top

#7 > I remember the Brit troops herding the Argentinian troops into a cold rock pocket and then firing an RPG into the mass of freezing men.

With their deadly accurate AK47 fire?

/sarcasm
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2010-02-18 06:49||   2010-02-18 06:49|| Front Page Top

#8 Oscar: thank you for your service to your country. Didn't know you were at the Falklands, would love to hear about it if someday I can buy you an ale.

Angleton9 (yes, it's you, I can check IPs, remember): not nice to twist the tail of a real soldier. You might not like what he does in response. Careful, son, just back down, there's a good lad.

AoS
Posted by Steve White 2010-02-18 09:34||   2010-02-18 09:34|| Front Page Top

#9 I remember the Brit troops herding the Argentinian troops into a cold rock pocket and then firing an RPG into the mass of freezing men. I've read more than a number of books on the conflict and that's the first I've heard of that one. I also think it's bullcrap. The Argentines had trouble believing how well they were treated by the British, that's something I've read over and over, even from Argentinians.

Two interesting stories though: (1) Some British unit learned how to say Grenade in spanish and would occasionally yell it to get Argentines to leap out of their positions. (2) In one battle the Argentines heard they were going up against the Ghurka's so they surrendered before the battle based on the Ghurka's reputation. Beyond that the Argentine pilots were awesome and the troops mistreated and poorly supplied by their officers.
Posted by rjschwarz 2010-02-18 10:08||   2010-02-18 10:08|| Front Page Top

#10 Wonder what Brazil and Chile think of this? Argentina seems to take every opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2010-02-18 11:32||   2010-02-18 11:32|| Front Page Top

#11 Argentina may have noticed it is not Margaret Thatcher running Great Britain, nor Ronald Reagan running the Unitied States - and thus no reason to believe they would be kicked out of the Falklands if they invaded now.
Posted by Glenmore 2010-02-18 11:49||   2010-02-18 11:49|| Front Page Top

#12 What is this? 1978 all over again? Inflation up, gov spending up, lame assed prez, Iran spinning, now the Falklands?
Posted by 49 Pan 2010-02-18 16:18||   2010-02-18 16:18|| Front Page Top

#13 The Argentines noticed the gift of Region 1 encoded DVDs.
Posted by ed 2010-02-18 19:11||   2010-02-18 19:11|| Front Page Top

#14 Glenmore has a point but I should think the Argentines would have a better go of it if they went to England and offered to buy the place, take it over, and rent the land back to the islanders for so many years.
Posted by rjschwarz 2010-02-18 21:31||   2010-02-18 21:31|| Front Page Top

#15 Was already tried in the '50s. The British weren't interested.
Posted by ed 2010-02-18 21:58||   2010-02-18 21:58|| Front Page Top

#16 Royal Navy warships are repor on standby alert.

E.g. CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > UK VOWS TO BREAKTHROUGH AGENTINA'S BLOCKADE OF THE FALKLANDS | PLEAS FOR ROYAL NAVY TO BREAK AGRENTINA"S FALKLANDS "SIEGE".

OTOH POSTERS > ask how is the UK going to wage any potential FALKLANDS II combat as it more heavily relies/depends on NATO = EU now for its military security than it ever did before and after the first war???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-02-18 23:33||   2010-02-18 23:33|| Front Page Top

#17 ed, its a half century later. A lot has changed. Especially British willingness to go to war over what is easily painted as a colonial possession. Its hard to remember now but a very large chunk of England was against retaking the Falklands back then. I imagine the numbers are even lower now that so many are trying to launder their history with EU strength detergent.
Posted by rjschwarz 2010-02-18 23:48||   2010-02-18 23:48|| Front Page Top

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