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2009-09-23 Home Front: Culture Wars

Age of consent storm over BBC debate about making sex legal for girls under 16

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Posted by Fred 2009-09-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 What did Bill Clinton do now?

Posted by whatadeal 2009-09-23 04:21|| 2009-09-23 04:21|| Front Page Top

#2 I believe the old social remedies work best. A beating, tar and feathers and a ~~rail out of town~~ plane to Riyadh.

Posted by ed 2009-09-23 06:35|| 2009-09-23 06:35|| Front Page Top

#3 It sounds like the police just don't want to enforce the law on the lower classes, when they could be more profitably going after good citizens defending themselves against burglars.

Posted by trailing wife 2009-09-23 06:44|| 2009-09-23 06:44|| Front Page Top

#4 There's a deep hatred and contempt bred into the left & academics for the bourgeois, i.e. the middle class, with its stable social manners and lifestyle. They much prefer the decadence of the aristocrats and the poverty and lack of social and economic roots of an underclass.

For it is the middle class that stands in the way of their power and control. Marx saw that clearly, which is why his ideology and strategies focused on destroying the middle class.

You can do that by violent revolution but, as Gramsces noted, you can do it more slowly by eroding in every way the pillars of social stability: religion, family structures, economic self-responsibility etc.

Above all it is necessary to destroy, ridicule and undercut common sense. Once people rely on common sense instead of nominalized ideological cant, it's much harder to overthrow them. Most civilizations fall due to rot within ... external aggression is merely the final push.

Posted by lotp 2009-09-23 07:50|| 2009-09-23 07:50|| Front Page Top

#5 Sounds like some crazy-ass Jack Chick comic... you know the one where Satanists take over America and try to turn it into Sodom and Gomorrah or some such.

Posted by 11A5S 2009-09-23 08:19|| 2009-09-23 08:19|| Front Page Top

#6 The dirty little secret that no one talks about is that virgins aren't very good at it. Good sex is an aquired skill. Chastity before marriage made perfect sense when marriage meant something, but it's hard in a modern secular society to make a strong case for holding back on our sexual impulses. That leaves us with no clear guidelines to give to and to enforce with our teenage budding adults. At what age or under what criteria should a person be held accountable for their sexual activity? It's easy to give a shallow answer but very difficult to for an answer with depth. I don't know, but I am uncomfortable with the way things stand now. Now, someone can have consensual sex with virtually anyone within their age bracket, but a great crime has been committed if they stray even one day outside their allowed sexual age window. The law hates ambiguity, but life is naturally ambigious. I'd like to see some sort of gradient of responsibility for our youth that parallels their growth and development in maturity in other aspects of their lives. Alas, it wont happen. Ambiguity is just too threatening a concept for our institutions to permit.

Posted by Richard of Oregon 2009-09-23 10:11|| 2009-09-23 10:11|| Front Page Top

#7 I think the real thrust of this debate (excuse the bad pun) is that the Moslem faith seems to condone sex with minors that borders on pedophilia.

I get the feeling that the BBC is advocating legalizing pedophilia and other assorted sexual abuse and exploitation of the young.

Posted by James Carville 2009-09-23 11:50|| 2009-09-23 11:50|| Front Page Top

#8 I think the real thrust of this debate (excuse the bad pun) is that the Moslem faith seems to condone sex with minors that borders on pedophilia.

I agree with Mr. Carville: let's not overlook the influence of the "asian" constituency that punches way above its weight class in UK politics.

Posted by xbalanke 2009-09-23 11:58|| 2009-09-23 11:58|| Front Page Top

#9 I suspect that a mid-teen age of consent is primarily a recent (last 100 years or so) western more. It was only in the past few years that Hawai'i raised it's legal age of consent up to 16 (from 14, I think). It was vigorously fought because it was contrary to the customs of a large part of the population, including native Hawai'ians and those of asian descent.

Still have a similar cultural dissonance problem with cockfighting (yes this is a totally different subject, not a variation on the first).

Posted by Mercutio 2009-09-23 17:16|| 2009-09-23 17:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Did anyone notice that those arguing *against* pedophilia were doing so because of the "pregnancy rate", *not* because it was wrong and evil?

I think that is the problem with the Tories in a nutshell. They think of government first, instead of the people first.

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-09-23 19:12|| 2009-09-23 19:12|| Front Page Top

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