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2009-04-19 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Grisly slayings brings Mexican drug war to US

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Posted by tu3031 2009-04-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Viva Azatlan!

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-04-19 03:25|| 2009-04-19 03:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Alabama's wealthiest county

Strange, that..

Posted by Cherelet and Tenille1095 2009-04-19 05:12|| 2009-04-19 05:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Slain with American made electricity and knives no doubt. I blame us. Five that no longer qualify for Barry's guest worker program and amnesty.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-04-19 07:51|| 2009-04-19 07:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Cherelet and Tenille1095, it's in the same County as Birmingham. Central Alabama, and it used to be fairly isolated with onle a 2-lane road in and out. I haven't been there in 30 years so I guess things have changed quite a bit.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2009-04-19 08:43|| 2009-04-19 08:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Sorry, Columbiana is in Shelby County, not Jefferson County. I don't know why the story calls Shelby County Alabama's wealthiest.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2009-04-19 08:47|| 2009-04-19 08:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Someone stiffed the cartels or they are getting rid of the competition.

There is no interest by either party in trying to control illegal immigration across the Mexican-USA border so long as there are millions of potential voters for whichever party manages to wave the magic wand and make these illegals legal. If you don't control the border, you don't control the flow of drugs from these cartels into the US. Maybe I'm just feeling cynical this morning.

We spend billions every year on the war on drugs. We spend additional billions to get drug users and dealers off the streets and into prison. Drug use also costs untold amounts in wasted lives, human misery, and increased crime. The war on drugs has been going on for some 30 years. Governmental budgets increase each year. The problem is still with us after 30 years with no evidence of abatement. Damn, this whole thing is like Sisyphus pushing the rock up the mountain throughout eternity.

It doesn't seem like government is interested in solving illegal immigration problems or drug problems.

Posted by JohnQC 2009-04-19 09:14|| 2009-04-19 09:14|| Front Page Top

#7 Sad too say besoeker but i see this coming staright too the ATL since we are a straight beltway for all this crao too spread up the east coast. I was coming through Phenix , Eufalla , Dolthan AL from Panama City last week and just by looking at the cars in these shit hole cities you can tell the local economy is not supporting the 24's and the Escalades the locals are driving.

Posted by rabid whitetail 2009-04-19 12:30|| 2009-04-19 12:30|| Front Page Top

#8 Ditto Whitetail. I seldom venture north of the Hartsfield Airport and never, I say again never ride the MARTA (Moving Albanians Rapidly Through Atlanta).

Mind the left-lane Escalades on I-85. They've taken recommended speeds on the Bundesautobahn to an entirely new level. Isn't it ironic that the Dwight D. Eisenhower "National Defense Highway Sytem" is turning out to be the capillary and network of our nation's undoing.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-04-19 13:19|| 2009-04-19 13:19|| Front Page Top

#9 I share your worry Besoeker, I think people may be finally getting most fed up about this, hopefully.

I just learned my fave local diner here, one of many, their ENTIRE kitchen staff are entirely illegal immigrants.

With the current unemployment crisis, those workers are thieves. Americans deserve jobs back.

Im just not sure, am I hurting or helping our economy if I report them? I dont want to put a small business at risk, but at the same time, that business has no business flagrantly ignoring the rule of law. Whats a girl to do?

Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-19 13:35|| 2009-04-19 13:35|| Front Page Top

#10 "I don't want to put a small business at risk"

How would you be putting them "at risk," GT?

They did that when they BROKE THE LAW by hiring illegals instead of Americans.

Report them. Also, stop eating there and tell them why you're stopping. And tell your friends about their kitchen help, too.

~~Especially any who happen to be unemployed and would be willing to work there if they were hiring legals....~~

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-04-19 13:49|| 2009-04-19 13:49|| Front Page Top

#11 One solution. Enjoy!

Posted by Besoeker 2009-04-19 13:56|| 2009-04-19 13:56|| Front Page Top

#12 Yes, I wont hesitate to place that call Monday morning. They did incur that 'risk' when they broke the law. Leaving behind good business practices to drive up a profit margin at the expense of everything else is not acceptable. It wasn't acceptable on Wall Street, and its not acceptable at the 2 star diner either. Many Americans sit idly by watching this go on all around small towns, USA, every day.

When people drive down a street and see an entire landscaping crew that is Mexican with an American Foreman, do they actually think all those guys have papers? Maybe sometimes, but not likely. Selective ignorance truly has gotten the best of the good ole USA.

Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-19 14:02|| 2009-04-19 14:02|| Front Page Top

#13 We spend billions every year on the war on drugs. We spend additional billions to get drug users and dealers off the streets and into prison.

I have come to the conclusion that we will not solve the drug trafficking problem without an expedited death penalty (1 year from sentencing and appeals to execution) for drug dealers. The problem is this - between culture is so saturated with drug use (high school, college, Hollywood - heck, Palin's in-laws dealing drugs) that something like this would never be passed into law. NAMBLA's manifesto has a better chance of getting passed than a drug dealer death penalty. And so the problem will fester on.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2009-04-19 14:32|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2009-04-19 14:32|| Front Page Top

#14 The problem is this - ~~between~~ the culture is so saturated with drug use (high school, college, Hollywood - heck, Palin's in-laws dealing drugs) that something like this would never be passed into law.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2009-04-19 14:33|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2009-04-19 14:33|| Front Page Top

#15 hey besoeker, i know ATL is known for road work, but look i think it started before Lagrange and was damn nerar doowntown before it ended, i'm not used too the traffic out there in that thar big city, i'm gonna tell ya I was scared too stop and use the bathroom until I got too the Braselton exit from Phenix AL.

Posted by rabid whitetail 2009-04-19 14:44|| 2009-04-19 14:44|| Front Page Top

#16 I have come to the opposite conclusion about the drug market allocation problem. We will not solve it until we deal with supply, by legalizing it, or demand, by making use a mandatory felony, imprisonment crime for even one see of pot. The dealers are simply capitalists meeting market demand in spite of government attempts to monopolize the market.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-04-19 14:44|| 2009-04-19 14:44|| Front Page Top

#17 Barbara, are you trying to get me killed?:-)Ofcourse, I left out earlier that I most definitely wont tell them why I stop eating there.

The day the kitchenaids say hello to my leetle friends the cops, they wont know why I stopped eating there, or why they suddenly come under investigation. All can behold the power of the anonymous tip off.

I would urge anyone reporting illegal immigration to err on the side of discretion. A lot of these "KitchenAids" have gangster druggie pals by the dozen. But ofcourse, Im not divulging any big secrets here.

Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-19 14:53|| 2009-04-19 14:53|| Front Page Top

#18 Not particularly, GT. If you think they'll connect your telling them why you won't eat there anymore and an ICE raid, don't say anything to them.

If, on the other hand, you can get several of your friends to do the same thing at about the same time as you, they wouldn't have any reason to specifically connect you to the raid.

You live there - you decide.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-04-19 17:15|| 2009-04-19 17:15|| Front Page Top

#19 the United States already incarcerates more ppl than any other country that gives official records, if you locked up everyone for "one seed of pot"3/4 the country would be in jail on some charge. Why is everyone so big on talking about pot when you don't see too many pot heads robbing the local quickie marts at gunpoint. Also these cartels aren't doing all this killing over some weed, go after the big meth labs and such if you are gonna do any damage too them at all, more than likely most the pot that is smuggled into the US now is coming from north of the border or grown locally

Posted by rabid whitetail 2009-04-19 18:04|| 2009-04-19 18:04|| Front Page Top

#20 I bow to your expertise.

Posted by Pappy 2009-04-19 19:02|| 2009-04-19 19:02|| Front Page Top

#21 The data show that, judged by virtually every metric, the Portuguese decriminalization framework has been a resounding success. Within this success lie self-evident lessons that should guide drug policy debates around the world.

link

Posted by rammer">rammer 2009-04-19 19:20|| 2009-04-19 19:20|| Front Page Top

#22 I'll be sure to appreciate it's self-evindence when I move someplace that doesn't have a border nation ruled by drug lords.

Posted by Mike N. 2009-04-19 22:18|| 2009-04-19 22:18|| Front Page Top

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