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2009-04-17 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Long-lost tomb of Cleopatra ŽdiscoveredŽ
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Posted by Fred 2009-04-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 "Not a BEAUTY" > read, LIZ TAYLOR's MOVIE as by most reliable accounts few in science-academia ever argued that she was. BEST > Cleo was "GOOD/FINE UGLY" = "FUGLY", GOOD ENUFF TO CAPTURE JULIUS CAESAR + 'OLE MARKO.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-04-17 00:29||   2009-04-17 00:29|| Front Page Top

#2 last night on Leno, his favorite joke was that now the Cleopatra family can finally have some closure
Posted by mhw 2009-04-17 08:13||   2009-04-17 08:13|| Front Page Top

#3 See Encarta entry: www.encarta.msn.com

Such being his temper, the last and crowning mischief that could befall him came in the love of Cleopatra, to awaken and kindle to fury passions that as yet lay still and dormant in his nature, and to stifle and finally corrupt any elements that yet made resistance in him of goodness and a sound judgment. He fell into the snare thus. When making preparation for the Parthian war, he sent to command her to make her personal appearance in Cilicia, to answer an accusation, that she had given great assistance, in the late wars, to [Roman general Gaius] Cassius [Longinus]. Dellius, who was sent on this message, had no sooner seen her face, and remarked her adroitness and subtlety in speech, but he felt convinced that Antony would not so much as think of giving any molestation to a woman like this; on the contrary, she would be the first in favour with him. So he set himself at once to pay his court to the Egyptian, and gave her his advice, 'to go,' in the Homeric style, to Cilicia, 'in her best attire,' and bade her fear nothing from Antony, the gentlest and kindest of soldiers. She had some faith in the words of Dellius, but more in her own attractions; which, having formerly recommended her to [Roman general Gaius Julius] Cæsar and the young [Roman general] Cnæus Pompey she did not doubt might prove yet more successful with Antony. Their acquaintance was with her when a girl, young and ignorant of the world, but she was to meet Antony in the time of life when women's beauty is most splendid, and their intellects are in full maturity. She made great preparation for her journey, of money, gifts, and ornaments of value, such as so wealthy a kingdom might afford, but she brought with her her surest hopes in her own magic arts and charms.
Posted by mom">mom  2009-04-17 09:25||   2009-04-17 09:25|| Front Page Top

#4 The above quotation is from Plutarch, quoted on Encarta.
Posted by mom">mom  2009-04-17 09:27||   2009-04-17 09:27|| Front Page Top

#5 the Cleopatra family

Sorta like Austrians speak Austrian.
It's the Ptolemy family. Macedonian rulers who were somewhat a trailer park dynasty, "All the male rulers of the dynasty took the name Ptolemy. Ptolemaic queens, some of whom were the sisters of their husbands, were usually called Cleopatra, Arsinoe or Berenice." Paging Mr. Spinger to the white courtesy phone.
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-04-17 10:23||   2009-04-17 10:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Procopius2K----trailer park dynasty. LOL! The imagery!!!
Posted by Alaska Paul in Nikolaevsk, AK 2009-04-17 11:34||   2009-04-17 11:34|| Front Page Top

#7 A recent study by British scholars claimed that Cleopatra, was of Macedonian stock and contrary to popular belief not a beauty.

Recent?? I thought this was known forever, particularly the Macedonian part.

some of whom were the sisters of their husbands

A Pharaonic practice the Ptolemys adopted.
Posted by Angie Schultz 2009-04-17 19:40||   2009-04-17 19:40|| Front Page Top

#8 Academics at the University of Newcastle have also argued that Cleopatra was a pointy-nosed, thin-lipped woman with a jutting jaw line - an assessment based on a Roman coin.

Depends on when the coin was made. The victors not only write the history books but draw the pictures too.
Posted by ed 2009-04-17 19:49||   2009-04-17 19:49|| Front Page Top

#9 Don't plan on visiting the site. On Nov. 17, 1997, Muslim Brotherhood terrorists massacred dozens of tourists at Luxor, Egypt. The foreigners had been viewing 3000 year old ruins. Three generations of a single US family were slaughtered in the tragedy. Within 4 years, 19,000 MB members were in Egypt's jails. Four years after 9-11, most had been released after President Bush pressured Egypt to include the MB in the political process.
Posted by Jans Wittlesbach2039 2009-04-17 21:10||   2009-04-17 21:10|| Front Page Top

#10 Some accounts say she servants roll her up in a carpet and have the carpet delivered to Mark Anthony. When the carpet arrived and was unrolled, she slithered out like a sinuous snake and did a bellydance. Ugly or not, she was creative, or at least good at putting on eyeliner!
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-17 21:41||   2009-04-17 21:41|| Front Page Top

#11 I had a dream like that once GT. When I woke up the electricity and AC were out, I was all sweaty, and my feet were all tangled up at the bottom of my poncho liner.
Posted by Besoeker 2009-04-17 21:55||   2009-04-17 21:55|| Front Page Top

#12 Cleopatra is part of the collective imagination. I always envisioned her looking like Cher, with some weird see thru get up and a huge papyrus headdress-not the best look.

I think the point is people imagine her how they want to, and Egyptologists are losers to try and pretend they could figure out if shes pretty or not. Bottom line, if Cleopatra was at a tavern today, some guy would mack on her and buy her a drink.

Maybe they had make-overs and glamour shots equivalents back in those days for the less than perfect 7's or 8's. Besides they wore a lot of gold jewelry---that could hide figure flaws and dazzle you with its shine.
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-17 22:06||   2009-04-17 22:06|| Front Page Top

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