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2008-05-10 China-Japan-Koreas
China eyes overseas land in food push
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Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-05-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 PLans are also in the works for GIANT UNDERGROUND FRESH WATER RESERVOIRS???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-05-10 02:01||   2008-05-10 02:01|| Front Page Top

#2 B.S. China's agriculture is horribly inefficient due to all the small farms. Tractors are still a recent development in a lot of places.

Some countries would find it particularly problematic if Beijing supported Chinese firms to use Chinese labour on land bought or rented abroad

Of course they'll do that. Lots of unemployed Chinese at home, and why give money to foreign barbarians anyway?
Posted by gromky 2008-05-10 02:52||   2008-05-10 02:52|| Front Page Top

#3 I spent a few enjoyable minutes imagining that will happen to some "Mugabe" who tries to nationalize Chinese-owned farms.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-05-10 05:30||   2008-05-10 05:30|| Front Page Top

#4 g(r)omgoru, Mao did that. At the cost of tens of millions of lives. Just like Zimbabwe which has been amateurish in comparison.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-05-10 08:42||   2008-05-10 08:42|| Front Page Top

#5 “China must ‘go out’ because our land resources are limited,”

Why not use the one word substitute, lebensraum?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-05-10 09:29||   2008-05-10 09:29|| Front Page Top

#6 "China's agriculture is horribly inefficient due to all the small farms. Tractors are still a recent development in a lot of places."

This is their Achilles heel, as Gromky points out. There's simply no way to produce food for large population nations without a capital intensive large scale farm model in place. There isn't - and won't be - a small farm means of doing this. Undoubtedly, smart Chinese recognize this and will act accordingly.
Posted by no mo uro 2008-05-10 11:48||   2008-05-10 11:48|| Front Page Top

#7 You know perfectly well what I mean P2k.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-05-10 12:46||   2008-05-10 12:46|| Front Page Top

#8 There's simply no way to produce food for large population nations without a capital intensive large scale farm model..

Unless, they go fully organic only to ship the output at low cost a la Walmart but tagged at the market price to the dilettantes of the Euro-blue enclaves in the States and then turn around and import the mass agribusiness output from the States.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-05-10 19:49||   2008-05-10 19:49|| Front Page Top

#9 "There's simply no way to produce food for large population nations without a capital intensive large scale farm model"

Never heard of Soylent Green? ;-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2008-05-10 20:31|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2008-05-10 20:31|| Front Page Top

#10 g: I spent a few enjoyable minutes imagining that will happen to some "Mugabe" who tries to nationalize Chinese-owned farms.

He will become an instant nationalist hero, and the Chinese will retire to lick their wounds? White Rhodesians couldn't hold the place, and they were there in significant numbers, had a well-trained air force and army.

Bottom line is that the cost of fighting a guerrilla war on foreign soil far outweighs the benefits from having farms there. Think about it - you have the normal costs of farm operations, and on top of that, you have the costs of fielding an army of fifty thousand to keep the guerrillas under some kind of control, in the face of guerrilla sanctuaries (and funding) in every neighboring country. Assume they produce 1/10 Chiquita's (formerly United Fruit Company) earnings, back when it was making money - $13.1m a year. The cost of 50,000 soldiers, at $2,000 in salaries per person per year, is $10m. What about equipment and supplies? Unless the Chinese start shipping millions of settlers into individual countries alone, they can't resist nationalization efforts.
Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei  2008-05-10 22:09|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2008-05-10 22:09|| Front Page Top

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