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2008-04-26 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Many Chicago Police To Be Issued M4 Carbines

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Posted by Anonymoose 2008-04-26 13:11|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 The devil is in the details. What about Rules of Engagement for the Po-leese? The gangs will always be a step or two ahead. With the Lawyers waiting in the wings. M-4s are just a tool. What will run the tool?

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2008-04-26 13:20|| 2008-04-26 13:20|| Front Page Top

#2 What they need is some of that advanced audio and visual equipment we are using in urban environments in Iraq.

Posted by Penguin 2008-04-26 13:58|| 2008-04-26 13:58|| Front Page Top

#3 They going to issue real bullets along with these guns, or only wax and rubber bullets?

Or just carry them around to scare the gang-bangers?

Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim 2008-04-26 14:11|| 2008-04-26 14:11|| Front Page Top

#4 Lawsuit waiting to happen.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-04-26 14:38|| 2008-04-26 14:38|| Front Page Top

#5 Great... now there will be double the number of stray bullets flying around. There is absolutely no need for street cops to carry automatic carbines in an urban environment. Better to leave the big guns for SWAT.

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2008-04-26 16:00|| 2008-04-26 16:00|| Front Page Top

#6 If they truly are desperate for heavier weapons, they should go with shotguns which have a great amount of flexibility on loads or with submachineguns. MP-5's or UMP's would be far more suited to police than M4's, which will over penetrate like crazy compared to SMG's.

The only reason to use M4's would be if the gangers are wearing body armor, which I haven't seen any reports of.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2008-04-26 16:10|| 2008-04-26 16:10|| Front Page Top

#7 Forty years too late and the wrong city. Try Denver next.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-04-26 16:36|| 2008-04-26 16:36|| Front Page Top

#8 I have several black powder weapons that would ruin the day of someone wearing body armour. They won't penetrate but the sheer hitting power would put someone down.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-04-26 16:43|| 2008-04-26 16:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Most people wouldn't dare play with your toys, Deacon Blues dear.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-04-26 16:58|| 2008-04-26 16:58|| Front Page Top

#10 With all the killings that happened last weekend, I thought Chicago's BIG answer was to increase the number of gun control laws.

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839">AlmostAnonymous5839 2008-04-26 17:14|| 2008-04-26 17:14|| Front Page Top

#11 More militarization of the Police is not the answer. Shotguns and a few mp5s are a better answer. An armed populace is the better answer. I also would like to know the "demographics" of the majority of the victims and perpetrators. I bet my guess is right and I wouldn't be surprised by the truth.

Bottom line is people with real jobs and a real future don't have time for this crap. That would eliminate 75% of this "problem" right off the bat. Turn the remaining 25% into worm food.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2008-04-26 17:59|| 2008-04-26 17:59|| Front Page Top

#12 Deacon, even with plates a 45-70, 444 Marlin or a 12 ga. slug would put someone with armor down long enough to cuff them. Mass is a good thing.

Posted by tipover 2008-04-26 18:21|| 2008-04-26 18:21|| Front Page Top

#13 This weekend will show a marked improvement... It's a chilly 55 degrees which will chase the gangers inside.. until next weekend.
Watch for "improvement" this weekend.

Posted by Capsu78 2008-04-26 19:08|| 2008-04-26 19:08|| Front Page Top

#14 State of the Art Texas Ranger close assault gear.

Posted by George Smiley 2008-04-26 20:16|| 2008-04-26 20:16|| Front Page Top

#15 #10 With all the killings that happened last weekend, I thought Chicago's BIG answer was to increase the number of gun control laws.
Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2008-04-26 17:14|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top

Mayor Fredo is already demanding more 'common sense gun laws' in the Democratic Party Paradise of Chicago, but the residents of the neighborhoods most affected want the right to have guns to protect themselves.

Posted by Shiling Stalin3422 2008-04-26 22:02|| 2008-04-26 22:02|| Front Page Top

#16 Do people who shoot at police give a rat's ass about some dumbf*ck misdemeanor gun law they are violating?

Posted by Enver Elmenter9748 2008-04-26 22:29|| 2008-04-26 22:29|| Front Page Top

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