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2008-04-25 Caribbean-Latin America

U.S. Navy Reviving Fleet for Latin America, Caribbean

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Posted by Steve White 2008-04-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 The NET-MSM evidence is rather extensive, to include even UNCLES FIDL-RAUL = QUBA/CUBA, and from NORTH AMER UNION, TO GREAT LAKES FREE TRADE, TO NORTH ATLANTIC FREE TRADE, RUSS-ALASKA CHUNNEL, ARCTIC-ANTARCTIC EXPLORATION,.........@.

*WOT > WAR FOR OWG-NWO > including WAR BWTN NEW WORLD + OLD WORLD = AMERICAS + EURASIA FOR DOMINATION/CONTROL OF MACKINDER'S WORLD ISLAND.

Now iff only HILLARY's Marketing-PR campaign staff can get a good photo of her properly holding a HISPANIC/SPANISH FAN, as per another First-Lady down SOUTH AMERICA ways also running for national Presidential Officia.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-04-25 01:34|| 2008-04-25 01:34|| Front Page Top

#2 WAFF.com > FOREIGN AFFAIRS - THE FUTURE OF AMERICAN POWER - CAN AMERICA SURVIVE THE RISE OF THE REST?; + PAKISTAN MAKES A PEACE DEAL WITH THE TALIBAN/ISLAMIST MILITANTS, ANGERING THE US.
Saving the Jihad, Camels, etc. for FUTURE POST-US NUCLEAR CALIPHATE???

Also from WAFF > AMERICA'S PERILS IN THE ORIENT, vv CHINA alone + RUSSIA-CHINA combined.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-04-25 01:40|| 2008-04-25 01:40|| Front Page Top

#3 Hi Hugo!

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-04-25 08:27|| 2008-04-25 08:27|| Front Page Top

#4 Faced with downsizing, I'm sure the Navy is not whining too much about picking this up.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-04-25 09:34|| 2008-04-25 09:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe not whining about downsizing but you can bet your @ss that as sailors begin to experience the same quick turns the Army and USMC are seeing on the ground in the ME, due to not enough hulls for all the committment, expect them to become just as vocal. its not that easy to get a beer at the end of the day when you are underway.....
Right now there are 3 CVs sitting in mothballs at Bremerton that could be pulled back out, Ranger, Connie, and Independence. Oli burners, but i am sure a 'deal' could be reached down south to get a top off every now and then.

Posted by USN,Ret. 2008-04-25 14:29|| 2008-04-25 14:29|| Front Page Top

#6 Right now there are 3 CVs sitting in mothballs at Bremerton that could be pulled back out, Ranger, Connie, and Independence.

Sure. Then you have to get someone to shell out the bucks to get them operational - drydock, powerplant and systems refurb and check, underway quals, degaussing. Six months minimum, unless you're willing to pay extra for a wartime-tempo overhaul.

Even with a 'mothership' approach, you'll need to find a crew of about 2000, especially those still qualified to run a conventional steam plant.

Now if you want to make it fully operational, then we're talking some real money.

Think there's funds for it?

Posted by Pappy 2008-04-25 16:22|| 2008-04-25 16:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Didn't say it was free, Pappy, but it would still be cheaper and quicker than new constuction.
ANd the Navy is sending Sailors inland to 'augment' those on the ground. agree that there is a lot of looking for work type of things going on in the Navy, but if we don't use the mothballed fleet ( both boats and planes) then they should be cut up for scrap. how much do you think it costs to keep those hulls afloat?

Posted by USN,Ret. 2008-04-25 16:38|| 2008-04-25 16:38|| Front Page Top

#8 i don't wanna sound like atree hugger but that would put us even more at the mercy of the ME in oil terms. build new ones that could run on something lese with a longer shelf life and less maintenance. Bet Hugo shit himself when he saw the article, and would there be an aircraft acrrier in this fleet. I'm not a navy man

Posted by sinse 2008-04-25 16:38|| 2008-04-25 16:38|| Front Page Top

#9 Putting 2+2 and getting 5
Comment Think there's funds for it?

Answer "Only if the Democrats do NOT win this Presidency"

Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim 2008-04-25 16:39|| 2008-04-25 16:39|| Front Page Top

#10 Serious comment, would it cost less to install a smalish nuke plant,(just for Steam, use the engines installed) than refurbishing an oil burner, and fueling it for 20 years or so?

Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim 2008-04-25 16:48|| 2008-04-25 16:48|| Front Page Top

#11 probably not when you also figure all the engineering that would have to go into the various studies to ensure safety of the crew and the retrofitting of the various shielding needs. i am not a blackshoe sailor, just an airedale, and never got below the mess decks, so i will have to defer to any snipes in the 'Burg.

Posted by USN,Ret. 2008-04-25 17:15|| 2008-04-25 17:15|| Front Page Top

#12 if we don't use the mothballed fleet ( both boats and planes) then they should be cut up for scrap. how much do you think it costs to keep those hulls afloat?

Why do you think ships are being sunk as targets?

As for carriers, let's look at the current developments:

A SEAL two-star with fleet experience will head 4th Fleet.

The fleet is backing up SOUTHCOM, which the two-star will also command.

Current Commander, SOUTHCOM, ADM Stavridis: "anti-drug operations, humanitarian and cooperative training missions are expected to be the new commands primary engagements."

Plain English: 4th Fleet is going to be more of an expeditionary, non-conventional soft-power show-the-flag operation. I suspect gator-freighters, the USNS Comfort and some of the SF-platforms are going to be more of use at this point than a CV (though I like the idea of an air-combat-capable CV being used as a sea-base).

Posted by Pappy 2008-04-25 21:28|| 2008-04-25 21:28|| Front Page Top

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