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2008-04-25 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Navy-Contracted Vessel Fires Warning Shots on Iranian Boats

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Posted by Sherry 2008-04-25 10:41|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Iran

#1 ....Which only means $3.75 a gallon by Monday.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2008-04-25 11:33|| 2008-04-25 11:33|| Front Page Top

#2 Need to have SEALs on overwatch. Just make the little f**kers disappear without a trace - and without a video of it.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-04-25 11:35|| 2008-04-25 11:35|| Front Page Top

#3 Yup. Just another unfortunate accident. Nope, I dunno where they are.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2008-04-25 11:41|| 2008-04-25 11:41|| Front Page Top

#4 RO/RO.

http://sunshiporg.homestead.com/westwardventure/westwardventure.html

Posted by tu3031 2008-04-25 11:43|| 2008-04-25 11:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Onboard a Navy security team would be?

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2008-04-25 11:46|| 2008-04-25 11:46|| Front Page Top

#6 A Navy security team, armed with M16 rifles and .50-caliber machine guns, was onboard at the time the warning shots were fired. The Westward Venture blew its whistle and fired flares before using the machine guns to fire the warning shots.

OK USN vets - should they have something that can reach out and touch a little farther away? Shouldn't we be a little more stand-offish in our choice of repellants? Perhaps not over the horizon, but at least wire or laser guided?

Posted by Harcourt Jush7795 2008-04-25 12:07|| 2008-04-25 12:07|| Front Page Top

#7 How about sinking one of those boats as a deterrent?

How many times does Gates and our Generals have to say to Congress that Iran is killing our soldiers?

Posted by DK70 the Scantily Clad7177 2008-04-25 12:09|| 2008-04-25 12:09|| Front Page Top

#8 Harcourt...I can tell you for sure there are USCG cutters, DDG's, and SSNs in the general vicinity. In addition, there is a CSG in the Gulf with CAP. The MSC ships are not operating independently.

I believe we are trying to be very careful in not responding in kind to provocation. We do not want an escalation on their terms. If we escalate it will be on our terms.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2008-04-25 12:27|| 2008-04-25 12:27|| Front Page Top

#9 A 7.62 round through the pilot of the small boat would be a good warning shot.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-04-25 12:36|| 2008-04-25 12:36|| Front Page Top

#10 Onboard a Navy security team would be?

It's a Navy security detachment, there to provide security for the MSC/MSC-chartered ship. They've been around formally since 2001.

Posted by Pappy 2008-04-25 12:40|| 2008-04-25 12:40|| Front Page Top

#11 Well all of this seems like it's a replay of history...

Remember the "Gulf of Tonkin Incident"...

Don't get me wrong... I'm not suggesting that they don't deserve it... or that there is anything we can do to avoid a confrontation... just saying that the last couple of months have reminded me of the build up before the Gulf of Tonkin incident that started Vietnam.

We have aggresive behaviors... and at any moment it wouldn't suprise me to see news that some little speedy boat takes a shot at one of our ships... and maybe that is where the similarities end... guess I have just been reading too much history lately...

Blackvenom-2001

Posted by Blackvenom-2001 2008-04-25 13:17|| 2008-04-25 13:17|| Front Page Top

#12 The media and left would just love another "Gulf of Tonkin Incident". It'll help them prepare for any future actions in Iran as 'another Vietnam'....

Posted by CrazyFool 2008-04-25 13:20|| 2008-04-25 13:20|| Front Page Top

#13 #1, Yup Mike Fox Business News is already reporting: SAN FRANCISCO -- Crude-oil futures jumped more than $3 in mid-morning trading Friday after news reports that U.S. military force fired at an Iranian boat.

Posted by GK 2008-04-25 13:39|| 2008-04-25 13:39|| Front Page Top

#14 Being a civilian ship under navy contract and the fact that it is a RO/RO, there wouldn't be a lot of amament; but the small arms contignet is not untypical. a little bit of preemptive boarder repellent, you might say. and this figures into the typical mussie mo: pick on small weak unarmed children rather than the big dog. then run away.
too bad the warning shots weren't below the waterline.

Posted by USN,Ret. 2008-04-25 14:23|| 2008-04-25 14:23|| Front Page Top

#15 We should have sunk the whole damn country in 1979! Bunch of weasel scoundrels.

Posted by JohnQC 2008-04-25 16:20|| 2008-04-25 16:20|| Front Page Top

#16 but carter was pres in 79 so you know he wasn't going too do shit about iran then

Posted by sinse 2008-04-25 16:22|| 2008-04-25 16:22|| Front Page Top

#17 Yup.

Posted by JohnQC 2008-04-25 16:37|| 2008-04-25 16:37|| Front Page Top

#18 Non-Military can shoot at Iranians? Where can I get a contract to sign? I will borrow my brothers Louisiana Shrimp boat. Anyone know how to drive a shrimp boat?

Posted by Albemarle Clearong3941 2008-04-25 18:23|| 2008-04-25 18:23|| Front Page Top

#19 One old Reagan-Bush1 era suggestion was to install USN equivalents of TOW or HELLFIRE for ship-based Point Defense, the thinking being iff USN Sailors and Marines can operate and fire STINGER, etc. AAM/ADS missles from aboard naval decks, by definition they can also operate = fire heavier "light" guided missle-rocket systems. SAVE THE SHIP'S HEAVIER WEAPONS SYS + AMMO FOR HEAVIER LR TARGETS.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-04-25 18:34|| 2008-04-25 18:34|| Front Page Top

#20 18 and 19 are kinda along the lines I'm thinking of in my request above. If they're w/in rifle range they're too close - but seagoing respect gives them a mile or two of clearance.

Still - 50 miles offshore is hardly infringing on persian littoral rights, so maybe shrimp boat pilot training is an up and coming field.

Posted by Harcourt Jush7795 2008-04-25 20:07|| 2008-04-25 20:07|| Front Page Top

#21 OK USN vets - should they have something that can reach out and touch a little farther away? Shouldn't we be a little more stand-offish in our choice of repellants? Perhaps not over the horizon, but at least wire or laser guided?

Anything heavier than what the detachments have currently is going to require more permanent modifications to the ship they're riding. This will open up a gray area in maritime law.

Not saying it won't happen. It may be necessary in the future. But it will create all kinds of complications that presently aren't desired.

Posted by Pappy 2008-04-25 21:14|| 2008-04-25 21:14|| Front Page Top

#22 i will drive the shrimp boat, don't know howe but i coulldn't jhit too much in the persian gulf

Posted by sinse 2008-04-25 21:19|| 2008-04-25 21:19|| Front Page Top

#23 *hint - don't let sinse drive or navigate*

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-04-25 21:21|| 2008-04-25 21:21|| Front Page Top

#24 I would like to see quad 40s in a gun tub. Labor intensive, I know. But those tracers in twilight would sure be pretty.....

Posted by Alaska Paul in Chefornak, AK 2008-04-25 21:52|| 2008-04-25 21:52|| Front Page Top

#25 *hint - don't let sinse drive or navigate*

He can be the bartender!

Posted by Alistaire Sleasing2074 2008-04-25 21:55|| 2008-04-25 21:55|| Front Page Top

#26 Ma Deuce has a prett good reach.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-04-25 21:58|| 2008-04-25 21:58|| Front Page Top

#27 Thanks Spook - just didn't now how far, but considering the ski boats which seem to make up the persian navy the stopping power should be sufficient.

Posted by Harcourt Jush7795 2008-04-25 23:01|| 2008-04-25 23:01|| Front Page Top

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