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2007-10-30 International-UN-NGOs
Gendercide at 'Apocalyptic Levels' in Asia
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Posted by Steve White 2007-10-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top

#1 So if both China and India have surplus males (shortage of females) it would make better sense for them to ally with each other and go to war with countries with a shortage of males and a surplus of females. Places like Western Europe and North America? Or does it just seem like a surplus of females because so many of the males are feminized?
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-10-30 07:32||   2007-10-30 07:32|| Front Page Top

#2 Do anything but outlaw abortion. Yeah, that'll solve the problem.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-10-30 08:45||   2007-10-30 08:45|| Front Page Top

#3 The Pentagon is right on it.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-10-30 09:34||   2007-10-30 09:34|| Front Page Top

#4 [Aris Katsaris has been pooplisted.]
Posted by Aris Katsaris">Aris Katsaris  2007-10-30 09:41|| http://katsaris.livejournal.com]">[http://katsaris.livejournal.com]  2007-10-30 09:41|| Front Page Top

#5 Horrifying, yes. But also our best defense against being over-run by Morlocks. Excepting India - which should be ashamed - it is no accident this form of cultural suicide is adopted by woman-hating fascists.

Give this technology to the Saud terror entity at once.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-10-30 09:44||   2007-10-30 09:44|| Front Page Top

#6 Excepting India - which should be ashamed - it is no accident this form of cultural suicide is adopted by woman-hating fascists.

Excalibur, India isn't doing this sort of thing to its female unborn because it loves them so much and wants them to be free.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2007-10-30 09:54||   2007-10-30 09:54|| Front Page Top

#7 The normal ratio ia about 105 baby boys for 100 girls: humans have naturally a few more boys than girls, a kind of safety net because even as babies boys tend to die more than girls (mortality ratio between male toddlers is 50% higher than between girls) and later the boys are more likely to engage in tree climbing and similar accident prone activities.

So when they say that the ratio in India is 108 to 100 it means that selectiva abortion is in fact relatively rare. So the only country who instensively aborts unborn girls is China. Now before you praise India, the fact is that infanticide of girls is common there.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2007-10-30 10:04||   2007-10-30 10:04|| Front Page Top

#8 nothing new here for Asia, men are worth more than women, plus theres no pesky dowry to pay when you marry off your boy. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS FOLKS.
Posted by Daffy Ebbusoth4423 2007-10-30 10:13||   2007-10-30 10:13|| Front Page Top

#9 One of the commonest teachings of Prophet Mohammad, with which all Pakistanis are familiar, relates to not burying daughters alive (a practice in Arabia before the advent of Islam)."
Aha, yet another look into the soul of our beloved Arab cavemen. So, Mohammed actually improved the species, but left so much undone.
Now they only bury them half way, and stack stones atop the other half from fifty feet away. Well, maybe it's not an improvement.
Posted by wxjames 2007-10-30 11:08||   2007-10-30 11:08|| Front Page Top

#10 JFM, it is worse than that. While 105 males are born, the higher mortality rate of males more than makes up for it.

In 2005, the estimated overall sex ratio was 107.5 males per 100 females in India

Contrast with 0.967 male(s)/female in the USA and 0.956 male(s)/female in France. 10% of the females are missing in India and 20% missing in China.
Posted by ed 2007-10-30 12:05||   2007-10-30 12:05|| Front Page Top

#11 In 2005, the estimated overall sex ratio was 107.5 males per 100 females in India
Posted by ed 2007-10-30 12:07||   2007-10-30 12:07|| Front Page Top

#12 A son will provide for you when you're old. A daughter joins her husband's family, and is not often seen after she marries.

I mean, it's like this: "If you have a son, then you have permission to withdraw from Social Security when you get old. If not, then get to like the taste of cat food."

It's Asian culture, thousands of years old. Us ain't gonna change it.
Posted by gromky 2007-10-30 13:19||   2007-10-30 13:19|| Front Page Top

#13 It has been suggested that there may be a natural control that comes in to play when the ratio of males to females gets very imbalanced.

Either the number of new male births drops drastically, or males start dying off rapidly.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-10-30 13:36||   2007-10-30 13:36|| Front Page Top

#14 Either the number of new male births drops drastically, or males start dying off rapidly.

In locations where there are no women around to provide relief, men usually turn to each other for same. Homosexuality is already rampant in the MME (Muslim Middle East) and it will rapidly become so in China and India. Stir in one massive AIDS epidemic and, viola!, no more excess male headcount problem. All three areas are in dire need of population reduction, especially so in the MME, which is long overdue for such a culling.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-10-30 14:25||   2007-10-30 14:25|| Front Page Top

#15 Legalize gay marriage? Then all the extra guys can just marry each other... (yuck!)
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2007-10-30 14:30||   2007-10-30 14:30|| Front Page Top

#16 "Homosexuality is already rampant in the MME"
"will rapidly become so in China and India"
Good grief, Zenster, where do you get such "facts"?
Posted by Darrell 2007-10-30 14:36||   2007-10-30 14:36|| Front Page Top

#17 Kobrin, and her Israeli co-author, counter-terrorism expert Yoram Schweitzer, describe barbarous family and clan dynamics in which children, both boys and girls, are routinely orally and anally raped by male relatives; infant males are sometimes sadistically over-stimulated by being masturbated; boys between the ages of 7-12 are publicly and traumatically circumcised; many girls are clitoridectomized; and women are seen as the source of all shame and dishonor and treated accordingly: very, very badly.

Shoebat confirmed the widespread sexual abuse of both boys and girls in Palestinian society. "It is a strange society. Homosexuality is forbidden but if you're the penetrator, not the penetrated, it's okay." He is describing prison sexuality. "If you're a teenage boy with no hair on your legs other boys your age will pinch your butt and tease you. Once, I saw a class of clothed teenage boys sexualize their gymnastics exercizes. And once, on a hiking trip, I saw a line of shepherd boys waiting for their turn to sodomize a five year old boy. It was unbelievable."

Shoebat's father also told him stories about starving Arab men who would barter sex for meat from Iraqi soldiers. According to Shoebat, teenage boys prey upon younger children; older male relatives prey upon pre-adolescent and adolescent boys and girls. They do not have intercourse with the girls since this would render them un-marriageable and bring shame upon their families. I heard many stories in both Afghanistan and Iran about the male preference for anal sex, even within marriage, either as a form of birth control or as a preferred homosexual practice.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-10-30 15:06||   2007-10-30 15:06|| Front Page Top

#18 1. The author you are quoting from is a psychoanalyst who married a Muslim man almost 50 years ago and quickly regretted it. She just might be biased.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/women/story/0,,1746156,00.html

2. The article you cite is anecdotal and does not prove your point (homosexuality rampant in the MME).

3. The next line after what you quoted is:
"Most Arabs and Muslims will deny that this is so."

4. Your repeated use of a "broad brush" paints your diatribes for what they truly are.
Posted by Darrell 2007-10-30 15:26||   2007-10-30 15:26|| Front Page Top

#19 There are states in India with skewed sex ratios. Others are normal.

Here is one statistic from an Indian abortion clinic about a decade ago. Out of 1000 abortions, 999 fetuses were female.

Surprisingly even some middle class urban enclaves suffer from this. When you consider that some of the most highly educated females (Doctors - Oby-Gyn) are involved in the practice, education doesn't seem to be the answer.

Punjab is one such afflicted state and the Sikh priests have begun to campaign against this. Muslim imams and Hindu priests have also joined the campaign.

I suspect that nature itself will have to impose a solution on this cultural preference.
Only when the shortage of females is so great that entire villages lack marriage age females (as has begun to happen in some parts of India), will things change. There will be a massive cultural change.

No consolation to the sans-female generation of men though.

Historically in China, an abundance of males produced lawless regions and civil war.
The same could be true in parts of India.

In India itself, the Kashmir jihad coincided with a surplus of males unable to find mates.

Punjabi men have resorted to arranging marriages with Bangladeshi women.

One good thing... traditional barriers of religion, caste, class etc are falling because of this.
Posted by john frum 2007-10-30 17:30||   2007-10-30 17:30|| Front Page Top

#20 The traditional method for reducing excess male population is aggressive warfare.
Posted by RWV 2007-10-30 21:44||   2007-10-30 21:44|| Front Page Top

#21 Lest we fergit, the overt failure(s) of Leftism-Socialism and Big Govtism, etc. induced the women in many nations/cultures to simply REFUSE TO HAVE SEX ANDOR KIDDIES. Lest we fergit PART II > MSM > Muslim women were for a while threatened wid beheading and torture-death iff they refused to have children despite seemingly never-ending local extreme poverty. FORTUNATELY FOR THESE WOMEN, NOT EVEN WEST/INFIDEL/WORLD-THREATENING RADICAL MULLAHS WANTED TO CHANGE DIAPERS OR BABYSIT OR ATTENDS PTAS FOR LONG PERIODS, etc. Radical Mullahs > went on pretending their orders for sex and babies weren't being ignored by their own women.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-10-30 22:16||   2007-10-30 22:16|| Front Page Top

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