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2007-09-01 Europe
Swiss to deport lawbreakers & families
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Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-09-01 10:32|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top

#1 IIRC there are four official languages in Switzerland*. German, French, Italian, and a languishing offshoot of old Roman holdouts. Very accommodating. Guess there's a limit and it appears they've reached that limit.

* Although I also recall that the federal office responsible for education said that the second language taught in every school was to be English, due to its predominance in business, technology, etc., much to the consternation of the French speakers. What do the Swiss know that American educators don't?
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-09-01 11:30||   2007-09-01 11:30|| Front Page Top

#2 makes sense to me - immigration is a privilege, not a right. If you break the laws, or don't assimilate, expect that privilege to be revoked. Since "family reunification" is such a big justification for immigrants' families being allowed to join them, expect it to be invoked when they ship Omar's criminal ass back to Shitholeistan
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-09-01 11:32||   2007-09-01 11:32|| Front Page Top

#3  "The symbol of the black sheep was clearly intended to have a double meaning. On the one hand there's the familiar idea of the black sheep, but a lot of voters are also going to associate it with the notion of dark-skinned drug dealers," said Geden.

What a bizarre association to make. Why would anyone think of drug-dealers having dark skin?
Posted by Excalibur 2007-09-01 13:29||   2007-09-01 13:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Terrorism runs in the family. Period.

Terrorism is an almost exclusive feature of high context societies. Familial ties, personal connections, prestige within the community and persuasive ability are all hallmarks of any high context culture. Terrorism thrives in such societies because the secrecy and support of kinfolk make it possible to conceal individuals and their activities.

Try as they might to portray this move by the Swiss People's Party as Hitlerian or Stalinist, Islam has more in common with those two thugs than anything being protested by the Swiss Foundation against Racism and Anti-Semitism.

While there remain ideological similarities between Islam and Nazism, there really is no comparison. Islam represents a far more numerous and monolithic threat to Western civilization. The close kinship brought about by consanguinous marriage in Muslim cultures creates an overarching element of protection. Combined with religious fervor and the immense support network provided by so many houses of worship, Islam assumes an unprecedented threat level.

High context Muslim culture is so sensitive to shame and humiliation that it is nearly impossible for any disgraceful conduct to escape the notice of family members or relatives. This is why it makes so much sense to deport all kin of those who engage in terrorism or other anti-social behavior. They know damn well what is happening, so if damage to their host nation is not of concern then integration and assimilation are not happening.

Unwillingness to assimilate is the hallmark of fundamentalist Islam. Additionally, preservation of high context traditions or culture creates an enabling atmosphere for radical strangers and kinfolk alike. This intolerant mindset is so often accompanied by radicalism and terrorist activity that—once an individual's activities attract legal attention—no fragment of those who abet or support such conduct must be allowed to remain. Attempts to tar this as "sippenhaft" ignore the wholly unjustified discrimination that was applied by the Nazis against Jews as opposed to the entirely warranted suspicion of terrorism within close-knit fundamentalist Muslim families.

America would be very wise to begin putting similar measures in place.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-01 13:59||   2007-09-01 13:59|| Front Page Top

#5 There may be an angle around this. If a family has a member they deem "incorrigible", there is usually a legal remedy to expel them from the family, called "emancipation", available in many western countries.

That is, the rest of the family might be law abiding, but they have, usually a son, who is a repeat offender and who ignores his family discipline, often physically menacing them.

This allows them to kick him out, so that they no longer have any responsibility to him, and often goes hand in hand with a judge restraining him from going anywhere near his family.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-09-01 14:20||   2007-09-01 14:20|| Front Page Top

#6 What a bizarre association to make. Why would anyone think of drug-dealers having dark skin?

Excaliber, I nominate you for "Snark of the Day".
Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-09-01 14:33||   2007-09-01 14:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Redneck Jim: It is an honor even to be nominated for so high an award in Rantburgian society.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-09-01 21:49||   2007-09-01 21:49|| Front Page Top

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