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2007-04-20 Iraq
Interview with Gaubatz: I found SaddamÂ’s WMD bunkers
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Posted by  KBK 2007-04-20 13:27|| || Front Page|| [11 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 As I mentioned on Captain's Quarters, my BS meter pegged out as I read this story. The situation as described would have been too big, known about by too many people both inside Iraq and around the world for this one guy to be the only information source. Think how easily secrets are leaked that are known to far fewer people.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-04-20 21:04||   2007-04-20 21:04|| Front Page Top

#2 I know what you're saying, and googling Graubatz turns up a guy who appears to be at least a bit of a braggart. OTOH, I recollect a report from a guy who had seen deep shafts in an island in one of the rivers and surmised that WMD were down there.

It would be interesting to get Hoekstra and Weldon's current take on this. Either those structures are there, or they aren't. And if they are, and are empty, what was in them?

What do you make of this:

Secret bunkers held chemical weapons, says Iraqi exile

Don't forget the Iraqi general who provided details of the transfer to Syria.
Posted by  KBK 2007-04-20 22:20||   2007-04-20 22:20|| Front Page Top

#3 Glenmore, have you seen these videos?

*Video Proof, Iraqi Gen. Georges Sada the No. 2 ranking officer in Saddam's Air Force Verifies The Removal of WMD in 2002

Iraqi Gen. Georges Sada: Saddam Moved Large Amounts of WMD to Syria in 2002 before OP Iraqi Freedom.
Posted by RD">RD  2007-04-20 22:24||   2007-04-20 22:24|| Front Page Top

#4 Actually, it is believable, but for a strange reason. The big picture.

Russia was as close to an ally as Saddam had, and they were probably part and parcel of any WMD programs that he had. Including "surety" of those programs.

So before we invaded, we told Russia that our finger was on the nuclear trigger, and if so much as a single WMD was used against us, we would drop a nuke on Baghdad.

However, we made the Russians a deal. If *they* were to transport Iraq's WMDs out of theater, to Syria, and *bury* them there, then we would not connect the dots implicating Russia, or use any kind of WMDs ourselves.

Early on, Israeli intelligence was jumping up and down and waving its hands about Russian trucks taking tons of crap to Syria for burial. We ignored them for the best of all reasons, because we already knew.

The US was also involved in another direction. By the UNSC resolution 1441, we could enter Iraq to search for WMDs and to protect those individuals who were looking for them.

So for the first year or two we went hunting for WMDs we DID NOT want to find. And when we found some old ones, we made them disappear, because had we "found" some, it would be an invitation to the IAEA and the UN to poke around with us. So we kept looking and looking, and not finding.

So yes, undoubtedly there were some serious WMD facilities in Iraq, if not a tunnel complex city beneath Baghdad as was suspected at the start of the war.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-04-20 22:36||   2007-04-20 22:36|| Front Page Top

#5 interesting train of thought Moose!

We know that We don't know what the back room deals were between the Big Powers, before the start of Iraqi Freedom.
Posted by RD">RD  2007-04-20 23:03||   2007-04-20 23:03|| Front Page Top

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