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2006-12-30 Olde Tyme Religion
The war for civilization
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Posted by Fred 2006-12-30 11:19|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Bush's fine, given circumstances, and the unfortunate fact that almost half of Americans would not perceive danger--were it in front of their noses--did present some limits on formulating of his policy.

One may argue that in the hindsight, Bush should have been bolder. It was, though, an imperative to try certain options, manifested in Iraq. We still don't see which way the Iraq experiment would unfold. But it had to be done to discern whether its pattern would be a viable option that could prevent an outright full war of civilization against barbarity, with all its nastiness unleashed.

What may be the case, considering present situation and the potential trends, is that we need Winston Churchill, soon.
Posted by twobyfour 2006-12-30 13:43||   2006-12-30 13:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Is 2012 too late?

But that still begs the question of how we will get someone of Churchill's caliber to run, much less win, in the face of the formidable odds posed by the forces arrayed against us, today. The current system weeds out people of character, achievement, and gumption.

I hold out some small hope that people like LTC Kurilla will join the political fray and bring their stainless steel honor to bear. It's asking much - perhaps too much.
Posted by .com 2006-12-30 13:50||   2006-12-30 13:50|| Front Page Top

#3 .com, no 2012 is not too late, at least as North America is concerned (US, CA). It may be too late for a mighty bunch of people, but not for the western civ overall. I am not so sure as the Western Europe is concerned, the train wreck is coming--almost as predictable as a Hollywood production movie. Central Europe will become the place where European branch of western civ will be preserved, with our help or without.

There are, of course, some positive developments on other fronts. In Africa, the Somalian/Ethiopian theater is a good sign, together with the fact that there is an increasing amount of conversions to christianity in many regions--mostly from animistic creeds, but there would not be an alarm sounded from some muslim clerics if the islam-to-christianity conversions were negligible.

The main problem, as I see it, is the media. Albeit in decline, it still has the hold on distribution of information--that is what in their view passes for information nowadays. This hold has to be broken in order to have a good chance for reduction of the length of the war, from several decades (~4) to perhaps not more than one.
Posted by twobyfour 2006-12-30 14:30||   2006-12-30 14:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Aye - the real threat is domestic.
Posted by .com 2006-12-30 14:34||   2006-12-30 14:34|| Front Page Top

#5 When do we march, and on whom ?
Posted by wxjames 2006-12-30 23:20||   2006-12-30 23:20|| Front Page Top

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