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2006-09-25 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

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Posted by Fred 2006-09-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Isn't that the long end of mo's idea?

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-09-25 00:20|| 2006-09-25 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 With normal folks I would say that a ten-year cease fire would result in a measure of economic prosperity for the Palestinians that would give them something to lose rather than resume hostilities. I think we can rule out the possibility of Palestinians acting rationally.

Posted by Super Hose 2006-09-25 00:36|| 2006-09-25 00:36|| Front Page Top

#3 How bout hamas swimming in the sea? How about a permanent Israel?

Posted by newc">newc 2006-09-25 00:42|| 2006-09-25 00:42|| Front Page Top

#4 There is no word for "truce" in the Palestinian language. There is only "hudna". A "truce" with Hamas will consist of them providing covert support for Islamic Jihad or any of the other dozen or more genocidal factions that exist, all the while claiming that they "seek peace".

Need I remind anybody that nowhere does the word "recognition" come into play? Again, this is hudna, pure and simple. The attacks will not cease. Hamas will maintain a micrometer ~~thick~~ thin veneer of plausible deniability whilst fomenting a constant campaign of aggression against Israel.

Even if you were to have every single last existing Palestinian faction sign on to this agreement, the next day there would sprout up a half-dozen new Islamic Jijadis or al Aqsa Martyrs Battalion or whatever other diseased bullshit these disingenuous psycho bastard rutbags can dream up.

According to Ismail Haniyeh's administration this is the only way out from the present complex situation. Hamas is ready to sign a ceasefire agreement if Israel agrees to renew the talks with Palestinian representatives and Hamas members.

I can only hope that Israel begs to differ and continues blowing away Hamas terrorists and their "government" front-men wherever they can find them. Offering this sort of transparently phoney type of lip-servie to the international community, just to get the foreign aid flowing, without A SHRED OF ACTUAL PROGRESS BEING MADE is an insult to the global community and requires a whole lot more suffering by the Palestinian people for electing these shitheads.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-09-25 02:59|| 2006-09-25 02:59|| Front Page Top

#5 Israel should take the deal with the condition that if ANY rockets are launched or suicide bombings occur, they will hold the Hamas government responsible.

Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan 2006-09-25 05:57|| 2006-09-25 05:57|| Front Page Top

#6 No, this is just a ploy to pause long enough to rest, convert more fanatics, and rearm, Israel should ignore this as the very transparent ploy that it is.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-09-25 06:26|| 2006-09-25 06:26|| Front Page Top

#7 I guess it'll take ten years to dig all the tunnels and bunkers they will need for the planned attack.
Crank up the D9s and level the place.

Posted by wxjames 2006-09-25 07:52|| 2006-09-25 07:52|| Front Page Top

#8 The Palistinian Dictionary:

Truce: They stop kicking our asses so we can rearm, regroup, and grow some more thugs. We, however get to keep sending suicide murderers and firing rockets.

Posted by CrazyFool 2006-09-25 08:31|| 2006-09-25 08:31|| Front Page Top

#9 Israelis have to be the most patient forgiving people in the world. I would have done the Serbian thing ~~years~~ decades ago.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2006-09-25 09:58|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2006-09-25 09:58|| Front Page Top

#10 Yeah, they should definitely have The Bomb by then...

Posted by tu3031 2006-09-25 10:42|| 2006-09-25 10:42|| Front Page Top

#11 Hey, it worked in the 7th century....

Posted by Phineter Thraviger1073 2006-09-25 11:29|| 2006-09-25 11:29|| Front Page Top

#12 an excuse to get that Euro - aid $

Posted by Frank G 2006-09-25 12:43|| 2006-09-25 12:43|| Front Page Top

#13 The tradition is to only ask for a hudna when the are losing. When they're winning, they demand surrender. Let's hope even Olmert can remember that much.

Posted by Ebberong Joluth5542 2006-09-25 13:36|| 2006-09-25 13:36|| Front Page Top

#14 'Tis I - cookieless again. I've a good excuse though: the ancient computer suddenly slowed down dramatically, so Mr. Wife decreed the purchase of whatever was advertised as a loss leader at the local big box electronics shop. Last week they were sold out before he got there, but yesterday he got there in time and voila! I now address y'all from something silvery grey instead of something taupe. ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2006-09-25 14:09|| 2006-09-25 14:09|| Front Page Top

#15 Let me be the first to say, TW, Welcome to the land of cookies, and I hope Mr. Wife took cosmetic necessities into account in implementing his radical overthrow of the current computer. Especially, if that silver-grey new box matches your interior decor, things should be looking up. Tea and crumpets, anyone?

Posted by BA 2006-09-25 14:30|| 2006-09-25 14:30|| Front Page Top

#16 Irish breakfast with cream and sugar for me, please. Perhaps with one of those nice pathiviers, as well. Marvellous China pattern, really. By any chance is it Royal Copenhagen's "blue fluted" porcelain?

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-09-25 14:45|| 2006-09-25 14:45|| Front Page Top

#17 Royal Doulton "Stanwyck", actually. I do love the RC Blue Fluted patterns, but had to make a choice between going all out on the porcelain and slowly collecting the absolutely gorgeous art deco sterling flatware pattern Lunt "Modern Classic" (thus far I have a lemon fork and a sugar spoon, but the future draws ever closer! and in the meantime Mama passed on the bits and pieces from various forebears whot survived the war -- so I have something like 18 cake forks and demitasse spoons for tea/coffee, and a very mixed assortment of flatwear and serving pieces for dinner, out of which I can scrape six full place settings but can serve probably seven courses, were I ever so ambitious. We eat dinner using modern stainless steel.)

Posted by trailing wife 2006-09-25 16:43|| 2006-09-25 16:43|| Front Page Top

#18 TW... you need any loaners, Ms. Besoeker has enuf Delft anf flow blue for the Regimental Mess of 3 RSM's at a single setting. Ring us up.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-25 17:18|| 2006-09-25 17:18|| Front Page Top

#19 Rantburg - the only place I know where a discussion about psychopathic homicidal sickos (AKA Hamas - spit) can transform into a detailed discussion of different types of tableware. Surreal...

And long may it remain so! ;)

Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-09-25 17:28|| 2006-09-25 17:28|| Front Page Top

#20 Whahahahahaa....To be quite frank, I'd wager there really is something psychopathic about Delft collecting.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-25 17:32|| 2006-09-25 17:32|| Front Page Top

#21 Have you a Runcible Spoon TW? I have only one, I collected many years ago in the land where the Bong Tree grows.

Posted by HalfEmpty 2006-09-25 17:41|| 2006-09-25 17:41|| Front Page Top

#22 I can only wish, HalfEmpty. ;-) But my mother and her forebears (my grandmother, great-grandmother, and a great-aunt in terms of the bits that I was given, I think) were ever so serious German bourgeous intellectual types who collected degrees, books, and good works very discriminately. I doubt they would have acquired such a thing, but if they did, it did not return to my grandmother after the war, along with so much else.

Actually, BA, the silvery-grey does go better with the cloudy blue sky paint effect on the office walls -- I hadn't really thought about it until you said. But then, Mr. Wife minored in art at university, so he would think of such things, whereas I busied myself writing poetry and other verbal pursuits (does lots and lots of conversation count as a minor?) and dancing about a bit.

Besoeker, I thank you for the kind offer, but to ship breakables is to risk that they will be broken, and I shouldn't like to do that to Ms. Besoeker's things. Perhaps we can put them out for the pleasure of those Rantburgers who come to our next tea party, should you have the time to bring in the boxes? With the crowd hereabouts, the Regimental Mess of 3 RSM's should be about right. Ta, love!

Tony (UK), only by returning periodically to the little pleasures of everyday life can we continue to muster the strength to face down the monsters.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-09-25 19:43|| 2006-09-25 19:43|| Front Page Top

#23 TW's making cookies? what?

Posted by Frank G 2006-09-25 19:57|| 2006-09-25 19:57|| Front Page Top

#24 I'll take Chocolate chip with pecans,heavy on the chocolate please.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-09-25 20:41|| 2006-09-25 20:41|| Front Page Top

#25 Leave it to R.J. to break our break from the everyday realities we all know is Islam. And, if TW's making chocolate chip cookies, count me in too, lol!

BTW, TW, I'm actually surprised you didn't take into account the effect on your superb interior decorating skills and your office that a new computer (ugh! Those boxes can be sooooo ugly) would have, lol! Too busy fighting the jihadis, are we?

Posted by BA 2006-09-25 21:54|| 2006-09-25 21:54|| Front Page Top

#26 Of course, trailing wife is far too modest to mention her own decorating touches in the office, like all of those nicely mounted troll heads and pelts.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-09-25 23:38|| 2006-09-25 23:38|| Front Page Top

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