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2006-05-31 China-Japan-Koreas

Japan cabinet OKs US base realignment plan

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Posted by Seafarious 2006-05-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Iff recent local medias/news articles are any measure, to include STARS AND STRIPES, many Okinawans and Govt officials want the USMC, etal. out of Futenma + Okinawa [Japan]in general. Comes down to post WW2 anti-USDOD/Bases sentiment vs. knowledge or perception by Japanese pols that Commie China wants to dominate all of East Asia including Japan. Wid China and North Korea allegedly bent on dev ICBMS that can reach CONUS, the West Coast iff not deeper, GUAM = HAWAII-WEST COAST iff nor more important due to its closer linear distance from Asia. Basing an aircraft carrier in Hawaii or West Coast may PC save stateside American lives, always a good thingy come elex times, but won't do anything to prevent enemy armies from attacking CONUS-NORAM-CANUSA iff the USA, voluntarily or forcibly, mil-pol withdraws from East Asia and PACOA/POA/Oceania. THE GWOT IS A WAR FOR CONTROL OF THE WORLD - is always better "OVER THERE" than down MAINSTREET, ANYTOWN, ANYPLACE USA, which will be once America's enemies believe or conclude America has de facto lost the GWOT and has turned/retreated geopolitically andor turned domestically isolationist. GWOT > the "STATUS QUO" regardless of merits or form is no longer acceptable/
tolerable for any of America's enemies. MOVING OR RUNNING AWAY TO TAHITI, NORTH POLE, PARAGUAY, or TIMBUKTU/SHANGRI-LA isn't gonna change the situation nor save anyone from the inevitable. Iff GLOBAL WARMING = the SUN, how are 6.0-plus Bilyuuhn people on earth gonna escape the Sun, and how does Kyoto andor Global OWG-Socialism, etal. affect the Sun and causes it to change its Fascist Male Brute Arrogant anti-Motherly Imperialist GOP-Conservative Sunly ways???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-05-31 00:45|| 2006-05-31 00:45|| Front Page Top

#2 After a while, Joe, it all becomes a blur.

Posted by Fordesque 2006-05-31 01:46|| 2006-05-31 01:46|| Front Page Top

#3 I made it to the second punctuation mark!

Posted by Ebbogum Sheresh6836 2006-05-31 10:09|| 2006-05-31 10:09|| Front Page Top

#4 I think Joe's comments add a distinctive flavor, and I think I get the general idea, if only because I know theses the Final Phase (conspiracy) theory, close to what Joe seems to be evoking.
See
http://www.thefinalphase.com/FirstWelcomePage.htm
http://www.jrnyquist.com/ (his op-ed are actually sensible, I think, and I'd agree with many of his points).
http://www.transasianaxis.com/

what's nice about that, it's an *anticommunist* conspiracy theory which doesn't blame the West (except for its passivity and negligence), and doesn't fall into apologism (for example, islamic terror is not an excuse for the "Zionist" cabal, it is a deniable proxy for the commies).

Posted by anonymous5089 2006-05-31 10:17|| 2006-05-31 10:17|| Front Page Top

#5 I know this is going to sound like Marine bashing, and I sincerely don't mean it to. I was stationed at Kadena for 2 year back in the early 80's. Whenever we went to Okinawa City or Naha, we would always run into service members from all branches. For the most part, American servicemen on Okinawa respected the Okinawans, treated them courteously, and respected their culture and traditions. My buddies and I enjoyed friendships with many Okinawans.

Now for the 'Marine bashing' part. It was ROUTINE to see groups of Marines fighting with Okinawan police, raising a ruckus in the local shops, verbally abusing Okinawan women, getting so drunk they couldn't stand up, and generally behaving like assholes. One night in a bar in Okinawa City, I saw 3 Marines take on 9 Okinawan prefectural police. After the 3 Marines kicked all 9 of their asses, reinforcements were called in and they were finally subuded and arrested. During my 2 year stint on Okinawa, 2 young (under 16) Okinawan women were raped. In each case, the perpetrator was a Marine.

I had Marine frinds on Okinawa, and one is a close friend to this very day. Having said that, I believe it would go a long way toward our relations with the Japanese to get the marines off of Okinawa.

I don't know what caused them to behave the way they did, I only know what I personally witnessed. Perhaps it was that they spent months in the field being told they were killers, and then set loose on a hapless population with a was of cash and a load of testosterone.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-05-31 11:12|| 2006-05-31 11:12|| Front Page Top

#6 My Uncle Jim (MAG 1) sez the hardest fighting he saw outside Guadalcanal was the great big battle of Queens Street in Auckland.

Posted by 6 2006-05-31 12:32|| 2006-05-31 12:32|| Front Page Top

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