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2006-05-31 Great White North

New biography of PM Trudeau reveals "Fascist, anti-Semite, and separatist" past

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Posted by Mike 2006-05-31 14:16|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Uh, no.....I think you hit it generally on the head.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-05-31 14:41|| 2006-05-31 14:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Very interesting, as it explains the Canadian angst against the Iraq war. They were among the Nazi collaboraters! I have an ex-Nazi brother-in-law that fled the war through the Canadian ratlines, which later allowed him to enter the US and eventually become a citizen. He was in the Nazi Youth Corps and served in the Luftwaffe, but fled the Russian front....his fear of the Communists was greater than the anti-Semetic indoctrination. My French Protestant ancestors also fled the iron-fisted Jesuits of Quebec for the US. The book, The Secret War Against the Jews, or How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People by John Loftus discusses this progressive liberal agenda that defies logic. Jesuits were key in the Nazi smuggling.

Posted by Danielle 2006-05-31 15:19|| 2006-05-31 15:19|| Front Page Top

#3 I'll admit I do miss Margaret, though. I'm sure Pierre does too, lol.

Posted by Chang Ominesing2659 2006-05-31 15:23|| 2006-05-31 15:23|| Front Page Top

#4 Yawn. A lot of people (myself included and BTW a such Ronald Reagan) were moonbats when young. What ius interesting is what they do later:

-some continue to be moonbats and support the same genocidical dictators they supported when young

-some others change the sign of their moonbatship (eg Allende who was close to Nazis, became a Commie all while keeping a soft spot for Nazis and protecting from extradition)

-others feign to have converted to democracy and freedom but continue secretly to undermine it (eg former French PM Lionel Jospin and many writers in the French press)

-others genuinely convert and become ferocious opponents of liberals and moonbats, the more fearsome because they know their tactics and methods from inside

I am not interested by what kind of idiot Pierre Trudeau was when in high school, what interests me is what he was when he entered politics and still more, when he became PM.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-05-31 16:01|| 2006-05-31 16:01|| Front Page Top

#5 That picture is classic!

Posted by DarthVader 2006-05-31 16:36|| 2006-05-31 16:36|| Front Page Top

#6 The book, The Secret War Against the Jews, or How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People by John Loftus discusses this progressive liberal agenda that defies logic. Jesuits were key in the Nazi smuggling.

I have read books who presented irrefutable evidence about existence of UFOs and Michael Moore movies who presented irrefutable evidence that Bush/chenay/Haliburton was behind 9/11. Irrefutable, that is if you accepted that the book or the movie was really reporting the facts.

So I am sorry to dispel some of your illusions.

First: Jesuits were not involved in the inquisition (it was the Dominicans).

Second: it was Louis XIV not the Jesuits who expelled the protestants

Third: Jesuits have ever been hated by anticatholics not because they were bad but they were ideologically dangerous: they were much better learned and trained than priests, mixed with populace and preached (unlike monks), didn't live in luxury, didn't have obvious mistresses and progression in the Jesuit order was based on merit not on being the junior son of a noble (in fact the second general of the Jesuits was son of converted Jews), they also had military-like discipline and had sworn loyalty to the Pope.

Fourth: First time in history of American continent where death penalty, torture and slavery were abolished was in the Jesuitic missions (at a time where the major philosophers of enlightenment owned shares in slave-trading companies and opposed abolition because... it would "make sugar more expensive")

Fifth: Jesuits obey what the Pope orders. In fact their motto is "Perinde ac cadaver": even if it smells like a cadaver. And despite what some leftist authors hacve said (in order to divert eyes from comunist complicity with Nazis) the Pope (who BTW, was trapped in Vatican, with a mere hundred Swiss Guards and with the power station who fed Radio Vatican in Italian hands) did his utmost to save the Jews. In fact after the war his action was praised by the World Jewish Congress and at his death by Golda Meir. The Pope was ordering Jesuits to try to derail the Nazi death machine and Jesuits don't disobey the Pope, Never.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-05-31 16:42|| 2006-05-31 16:42|| Front Page Top

#7 Mike, If you want some more examples of the arrogance of the enlightened, and haven't yet, read Intellectuals by Paul Johnson.

My conclusion is that these people are all utilitarians. They believe in providing the greatest benefit to the greatest number. The important key is that only they and their equally intelligent peers posess the secret way to do this because it has escaped all of mankind heretofor.

As JFM points out most of us are, shall we say, unfamiliar with how the world truly works when we are young. As we grow older, we grow wise. Thus the universal lament that youth is wasted on the young.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-31 16:53|| 2006-05-31 16:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Didn't Margaret sleep with (among other objects, people) a French Horn LOL

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-05-31 18:04|| 2006-05-31 18:04|| Front Page Top

#9 Yep. JFM is right. What matters is how long it takes you to grow (up) out of your moonbat period.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-05-31 18:51|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-31 18:51|| Front Page Top

#10 Safaris through ancestral memories teach me many things. The patterns, ahhh, the patterns. Liberal bigots are the ones who trouble me most. I distrust the extremes. Scratch a conservative and you find someone who prefers the past over any future. Scratch a liberal and find a closet aristocrat. It's true! Liberal governments always develop into aristocracies. The bureaucracies betray the true intent of people who form such governments. Right from the first, the little people who formed the governments which promised to equalize the social burdens found themselves suddenly in the hands of bureaucratic aristocracies. Of course, all bureaucracies follow this pattern, but what a hypocrisy to find this even under a communized banner. Ahhh, well, if patterns teach me anything, it's that patterns are repeated. My oppressions, by and large, are no worse than any of the others and, at least, I teach a new lesson.

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Posted by Glains Threrese9277 2006-05-31 23:40|| 2006-05-31 23:40|| Front Page Top

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