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55,000 dead or duplicate voters deleted from state database

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Posted by Fred 2006-05-14 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Just 30 cases found? Out of 55,000 jacked up records there's just 30 that improperly voted?

For some reason I think that number is much higher.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats">Laurence of the Rats 2006-05-14 00:05|| 2006-05-14 00:05|| Front Page Top

#2 That's 55000 less democratic voters! What were you thinking, man!?!?

Posted by DarthVader 2006-05-14 03:37|| 2006-05-14 03:37|| Front Page Top

#3 30 is all they are going to make examples of. The Dems will keep cheating as long as they can get away with it. It's SOP for them.

Posted by SPoD 2006-05-14 03:48|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-05-14 03:48|| Front Page Top

#4 That's 55000 less democratic voters!

More likely it is 55000 less republican voters.

Posted by 2b 2006-05-14 06:55|| 2006-05-14 06:55|| Front Page Top

#5 In Washington state?

Posted by lotp 2006-05-14 08:02|| 2006-05-14 08:02|| Front Page Top

#6 How about cross checking the names on the ballots found in a Seattle warehouse during the last election, with this list?

Posted by ed 2006-05-14 08:12|| 2006-05-14 08:12|| Front Page Top

#7 About 30 cases of possible double voting were forwarded to county officials for investigation, Reed said

According to SoundPolitics.com
where Stefan Sharkansky has been keeping the admin's toes close to the fire, he found what he thinks are 180 double voters in King County alone. He also points out that the fewer you investigate the fewer has to be reported to the press.

FYI - Next year King County will go all-mail-order. So votes will be counted in back-allys (possibly by teamster 'volunteers'.....)

Posted by CrazyFool 2006-05-14 08:49|| 2006-05-14 08:49|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm for paper ballot, with the classical Iraqi ink fingerprint just for future verification purposes, recalling the Washington state judge's rationale for dismissing the challenge case. The only people who want the count done 'now' is MSM. The rest of us can just wait a week or so for the tallies.

Posted by Elmemble Hupamp7763 2006-05-14 09:20|| 2006-05-14 09:20|| Front Page Top

#9 "Would you then disenfranchise the noble dead?" (Congersman Frog in Pogo by Walt Kelly)

Posted by James">James 2006-05-14 17:25|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2006-05-14 17:25|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm for a opti-scan thumbprint on the voucher saying that you voted (not on who you voted for). It would make it easy to keep track and prosecute offenders. I know, I know. I'm dreaming.

Posted by 2b 2006-05-14 17:27|| 2006-05-14 17:27|| Front Page Top

#11 Heh heh, Mr. Kelly was alway sensitive to the special needs of the Brotherhood of the Layd Out & Stiff

Posted by 6 2006-05-14 17:42|| 2006-05-14 17:42|| Front Page Top

#12 Simple- do an optical scan and a thumb or forefinger scan - normalize the data in such a way it accounts for minut chnges in fingerprint but between the 2 it satistically is a secure identification. Record the data in one database, record the voter registration number in another database. Record the cryptographic hash value of the VR info and put it as the index to the bio data, and the cryptographic hash of the bio data and put it as the index of the VR info.

Remember its a function of the one-way function called a hash that given the data you can regenerate the hash, but given the hash you cannot regenerate the data.

This means if they take a fingerprint and retinal scan, they can use it to verify the address you have given. Or give them the voter registration info, they can look up your fingerprint and retinal pattern and check them against what you give them now. Neither can be done without other. , but etiher can be used to retrieve the other for validation. And the combination of the two makes a completely unique (i.e. no dupe voter) entity.

Next, combine together the date, time location/precinct code and the 2 hashes above. Take the cryptographic hash of that - and the becomes the vote record number. This is evidence that the particular person identified by the bio and voter-reg data was at that precinct at that dat and time, and that they voted. Like above, given the data, you can regenerate the hash, but given the hash, you cannot regenerate the data.

Have the voting machine combine those values and the vote itself (the choices a B C D, etc - not the ballot info) - then cryptographically sign that. (All the "hashesh" are printed as barcodes, like the postal ones that are all dots and patterns not neccesarily bars - and the numbers themsleves are printed as well in hexadecimal).

There you have a ballot - all done by computer except for marking the ballot.

The voter gets a paper receipt with his vote choices, date time and location on one part in english and the barcode at the bottom, right then and there. And on the other part is his "Vote Number" (thats they crypto signature) which is just a barcode and a string of digits. Thats your voting recipt.

If he ever has any doubt he can request that they check the "Vote Number" - that it exists, and giving them the other data, they can even check that it wasnt tampered with, and that it was tallied.

Heck with the bar code he should be able to take the records to the courthouse, put them past a sumermarket scanner type thing, scan his eye and finger as identity, veryfiy his addres - and BOOP - up pops the choices he made as they awere tallied for the election.

Given that its a classic cryptographic "one way" function, hashes and normalized data are the way to go - it makes the system COMPLETELY open and transparent yet hides the individual choices from everyone except the individual and the vote tallying computer.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-14 20:42|| 2006-05-14 20:42|| Front Page Top

#13 Just dip the finger in the indelible ink like they do in all the countires we conquer. That will save on little "I voted" stickies, too.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-14 20:58|| 2006-05-14 20:58|| Front Page Top

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