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2006-03-27 Afghanistan

Apostasy Not Punishable By Death - In This Life

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Posted by Steve 2006-03-27 07:59|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Islam doesn't allow punishment for apostasy if the convert does not publicise their conversion...

In other words -- shut up, keep acting like a Muslim, and we won't kill you.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2006-03-27 09:05|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-03-27 09:05|| Front Page Top

#2 RC

Yes. That is an important point.

In the Rahman case, the judge asked him if he was an apostate and Rahman said, "no". Then Rahman went on to say he believed in Jesus.

Depending on how much he said about Jesus, he could be simply affirming the fact that Jesus (Isa) is a prophet of Islam or he might have said that Jesus is the son of God which would move to the publicizing side of the line.

Posted by mhw 2006-03-27 09:20|| 2006-03-27 09:20|| Front Page Top

#3 He must be one of those "moderate" Muslims. After all, he's not advocating for the guy's death...

/sarcasm off

Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-03-27 09:52|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-03-27 09:52|| Front Page Top

#4 mhw: According to this piece by Wretchard, quoting a Wikipedia entry:

Though facing a possible death sentence, Rahman holds firm to his convictions: "They want to sentence me to death and I accept it I am a Christian, which means I believe in the Trinity I believe in Jesus Christ."

Sounds like straight Christianity to me, the Trinity reference being the clincher.

Posted by Xbalanke 2006-03-27 12:24|| 2006-03-27 12:24|| Front Page Top

#5 "We might not kill him if he keeps quiet, but he will of course have to have his children taken from him, be forcibly divorced from his wife and lose his job. We may also jail him from time to time if he does not stay out of our way, but we probably won't execute him. We are very civilized here."

Posted by Baba Tutu 2006-03-27 14:30|| 2006-03-27 14:30|| Front Page Top

#6 Babu Tata, the man is apparently long since wifeless, and his parents have had custody of his children these sixteen years. That was the original issue, that he came back to Afghanistan to reclaim the children, and his parents used his apostasy to fight his claim. So he may yet live out his natural lifespan, but it won't be with his children. (And truth to tell, after having left them until so near adulthood, how much could he really add to their development?)

Posted by trailing wife 2006-03-27 17:29|| 2006-03-27 17:29|| Front Page Top

#7 The Maliki School of Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh) imposes capital punishment (Had) for apostasy, as does the hanafi madhab. Check out 37:19 from this 9th century malaki manual.

http://www.iiu.edu.my/deed/lawbase/risalah_maliki/book37.html

Rape is legal for Muslim males unless another male - or 2-4 women - witnesses the attack. Unprovable accusations of rape are punishable under Had extermination. Muslim women usually find it better to withold rape accusations. However, often males brag about the crime and the woman is slaughtered to preserve family "honor."

Maliki states: most of North Africa and the Persian Gulf states

Hanafi states: from the Saud to the Paki terrorist entities.

Posted by Listen to Dogs 2006-03-27 21:25|| 2006-03-27 21:25|| Front Page Top

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