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2006-03-27 Afghanistan
Condi: Democracy Will Evolve In Afghanistan
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Posted by Listen to Dogs 2006-03-27 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Condi's getting Polly Annish
Posted by Captain America 2006-03-27 00:32||   2006-03-27 00:32|| Front Page Top

#2 My take, as long as the Afghanistan constitution is based on Sharia, the mad clerics run the store. The K government is limited in geography and the tribal leaders must be forced to comply or go bye-bye.

Much unfinished work in Afghanistan, as in Iraq.
Posted by Captain America 2006-03-27 00:37||   2006-03-27 00:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Dr Dogs - I think Dr Rice is aware of far more than you credit her with, and in far greater detail. She has the most thankless job in the Federal Government - especially within the Bush Administration.

The job entails making nice with evil, insane, lying, back-stabbing thieves - conveniently shortened to "diplomats." Nicely telling them, in an escalating sequence:

"How do you see the situation?"
"That's not how we see it."
"This is how we see it."
"No, that isn't an acceptable outcome."
"Do you have any relatives left in-country?"
"That's a shame."

She's doing her job. I saw her interview today, and I think she's doing it very well.
Posted by Flailet Unoper7560 2006-03-27 01:34||   2006-03-27 01:34|| Front Page Top

#4 Unless the man in the Afghan street interviews that I saw were non-representative, the fact that 100% vehemently supported execution of the convert - pre-trial - suggests sharia has a total hold over Afghanis.

Mohammad's extermination edict is in the Hadith, which is second to the Koran in authority. Bukhari's version reads, "If anyone (Muslim) abandons Islam, then kill them." In the absence of growing and subversive Muslim immigrant communities in the West, and aid from the productive States, Muslims would enforce the extermination edict. The cartoon-jihad is evidence of their intent to enforce extra-territorial application of sharia blasphemy laws.

Western leaders should be doing everything in their power to rollback aggressive Islam. The SUV incident, after which the perpetrator used Koran sanction to attempt justification, reveals our vulnerability. During Taliban/al-Qaeda rule, at least 50,000 Muslims - many on jihad vacations from the West - took training in the production and use of poisons, to inflict mass casualties against their enemy.

Islam cannot reform. A Muslim who is fully aware of his Koranic ("jihad is prescribed to you") obligations, will wage jihad terror when they have the means and opportunity to do same. The motive is in the death warrant for billions of disbelievers: the Koran.
Posted by Listen to Dogs 2006-03-27 04:35||   2006-03-27 04:35|| Front Page Top

#5 You sure do sound familiar.
Posted by Whimble Ebberetch1516 2006-03-27 05:19||   2006-03-27 05:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Condi can wear the boots, but can she do the walking? (caution to the meek: exposed thighs above tight leather boots). http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp2-25-04c.jpg
Posted by Listen to Dogs 2006-03-27 06:02||   2006-03-27 06:02|| Front Page Top

#7 caution to the meek

LOL. Are you for real?
Posted by Creng Unains3685 2006-03-27 06:31||   2006-03-27 06:31|| Front Page Top

#8 But there are difficult issues about the rights of the individual...

No, there are not!

There's nothing "difficult" here. They want to kill Rahman for something that's none of their goddamned business.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-03-27 07:19|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-03-27 07:19|| Front Page Top

#9 Virginia Statue for Religious Freedom (1786)

"Whereas Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy author of our religion, who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as it was in his Almighty power to do; that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavouring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time; that to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves, is sinful and tyrannical; that even the forcing him to support this or that teacher of his own religious persuasion, is depriving him of the comfortable liberty of giving his contributions to the particular pastor, whose morals he would make his pattern, and whose powers he feels most persuasive to righteousness, and is withdrawing from the ministry those temporary rewards, which proceeding from an approbation of their personal conduct, are an additional incitement to earnest and unremitting labours for the instruction of mankind;"

A document so important that Thomas Jefferson's gravestone notes that he is author of this measure and NOT that he was president.

We are so stuck on the fetish of "voting" that we have forgotten what is truly required for a free, tolerant society. As long as we allow these so-called "fledgling" democracies to use sharia as the basis of their legal system, we will not make one inch of progress.

Apologies for the long post.
Posted by Dreadnought 2006-03-27 11:34||   2006-03-27 11:34|| Front Page Top

#10 CU3685:
Everything is relative. The relative can't be proven. Therefore nothing is real. We are all fake. So leave us to our nothingness.
Posted by Listen to Dogs 2006-03-27 14:25||   2006-03-27 14:25|| Front Page Top

#11 We're real. But only for the instant whist I fire off this post, after than, we're all part a savage Jello commercial in post-apkalypse Portland.
Posted by 6 2006-03-27 16:28||   2006-03-27 16:28|| Front Page Top

#12 Well, I, for one, am not real. I'm just a flickering impression of something that never really was. I'm 100% b*llshit, but I'm kinda at peace with it.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-03-27 16:36||   2006-03-27 16:36|| Front Page Top

#13 Just imagine for a second that you don't exist.

Hold that thought.

It should free up some bandwidth.
Posted by Creng Unains3685 2006-03-27 16:45||   2006-03-27 16:45|| Front Page Top

#14 "As long as we allow these so-called "fledgling" democracies to use sharia as the basis of their legal system, we will not make one inch of progress."

These ideas that you cannot let these Muslim democracies use sharia, or if they use sharia then no progress has been made, or the talk about over emphasis on voters all come up short. Progress has to begin somewhere. You cannot go in and tell these folks their whole way of life and their religion sucks - adopt ours now. Since that would not be calculated to work, then you have to be satisifed with a little slower progress. We accepted a little evil (slavery) while establishing a goverment that protected minority rights and insured basic freedoms. The evil was eliminated later. Had the drafters of the Declaration of Independence insisted on taking on the slavery issue at that time, then we'd still be sippin tea in the afternoon.
Posted by Hank 2006-03-27 17:11||   2006-03-27 17:11|| Front Page Top

#15 Yep. But not in this millennium.
Posted by gromgoru 2006-03-27 19:46||   2006-03-27 19:46|| Front Page Top

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