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2005-12-25 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-12-25 08:39|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 He could barely walk unaided. His eyes were yellow from hepatitis, his heart fluttered, and his head throbbed,...

Right. I wonder what the eval said upon his departure from Gitmo. This smells of the usual MSM unverified slander. And just how did the reporter know that the subject was suffering from heart flutters?

Posted by Glailing Ulusing4418 2005-12-25 09:26|| 2005-12-25 09:26|| Front Page Top

#2 This story actually reads plausibly - may not BE true, but not impossible if interpreted in a different way.
It is quite possible he had hepatitis when he was captured in Afghanistan - it may have shown up on his blood work at Guantanamo Bay even before he was seriously symptomatic. Weakness, headaches, heart palpitations could all flow from the hepatitis, or as side effects of medication given for it. I wouldn't be surprised if the gel sprayed on his legs was also for some medical condition - at least they didn't delouse him Nazi-style.
It's tough to see how someone who was used to Russia and Afghanistan could complain about freezing in Guantanamo.
His description of 'torture' - uncomfortable positions, 24 hour light, large temperature variations, someone always watching and taking notes - is not far from what Rumsfeld had authorized at one point; it's just a matter of definition whether it qualifies as torture. I don't think it would meet Saddam's threshhold, for instance.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2005-12-25 10:24|| 2005-12-25 10:24|| Front Page Top

#3 He kept clutching at his chest and hollering "This is the big one, Elizabeth!"?

Posted by Fred 2005-12-25 10:26|| 2005-12-25 10:26|| Front Page Top

#4 A tragic, heart wrenching tale of man's inhumanity to man. Reminds me of the time I rolled this bum for his bottle of Mad Dog on the train platform last year...

Posted by Raj 2005-12-25 12:04|| 2005-12-25 12:04|| Front Page Top

#5 "sprayed with a gel that caused a painful rash"
"hosed down with a stream of water"

Um, I'm thinking soap?

Outrageous!

Rinse. Repeat.

Posted by .com 2005-12-25 16:01|| 2005-12-25 16:01|| Front Page Top

#6 A tragic, heart wrenching tale of man's inhumanity to man.

The legs of a biker, the heart of an artist.

Posted by Leon Clavin 2005-12-25 18:26|| 2005-12-25 18:26|| Front Page Top

#7 Boston.com is teh unrepentant hyper-liberal child of teh NYT - should I say any more? They hired Derrick Z Jackson - an affirmative action hire to satisfy the stupid anti-american anti-white caucus

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-25 20:23|| 2005-12-25 20:23|| Front Page Top

#8 Mokayev said his brother told him of being forced to kneel with his hands cuffed to his ankles, being sprayed with a gel that caused a painful rash, then carried out, still shackled, and hosed down with a stream of water.

It's called taking a bath

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2005-12-25 22:33|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2005-12-25 22:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Imagine lying through your teeth as a matter of routine, and having an LA Times reporter lap up every word as if it were gospel truth. Liberals are anti-American propaganda fundamentalists - they believe in the literal truth of any bits of anti-American propaganda they hear.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-12-25 22:45|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-12-25 22:45|| Front Page Top

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