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2005-10-08 Iraq

Iraqi sources in Kuwait: Iran increasing its influence in southern Iraq

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Posted by Fred 2005-10-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The pervasive Rantburg majority denial of the galloping cultural unification of Shiite Iran and Iraq, makes me surprised to see an article like this one get through the Bush sieve: THE PRESIDENT IS INFALLIBLE, THEREFORE WE MUST FLOCK WITH THE SHEPHERD.

Don't get me wrong: if I had my way Mecca and Medina would have been charcoal by Sept. 13, 2001, when the identities of the 9-11 hijackers were partly established. You do yourselves an immense disservice when you deny the utter depravity of the Bush-Powell butchery of Secularism in Iraq with Order #1 of the Coalition Provisional Authority. While Iran's Ayatollahs were facing implacable opposition at home, Bush gave them a present, at the cost of 200 plus billion dollars. Clearly, Bush won't export Secularism abroad, because he doesn't believe that it should exist at home.

Leave the Iraq war to the field generals, and they will deliver a bloody end to the Bush gift.

Posted by Vlad the Muslim Impaler 2005-10-08 21:21|| 2005-10-08 21:21|| Front Page Top

#2 The pervasive Rantburg majority denial of the galloping cultural unification of Shiite Iran and Iraq, makes me surprised to see an article like this one get through the Bush sieve: THE PRESIDENT IS INFALLIBLE, THEREFORE WE MUST FLOCK WITH THE SHEPHERD.

Don't get me wrong: if I had my way Mecca and Medina would have been charcoal by Sept. 13, 2001, when the identities of the 9-11 hijackers were partly established. You do yourselves an immense disservice when you deny the utter depravity of the Bush-Powell butchery of Secularism in Iraq with Order #1 of the Coalition Provisional Authority. While Iran's Ayatollahs were facing implacable opposition at home, Bush gave them a present, at the cost of 200 plus billion dollars. Clearly, Bush won't export Secularism abroad, because he doesn't believe that it should exist at home.

Leave the Iraq war to the field generals, and they will deliver a bloody end to the Bush gift.

Posted by Vlad the Muslim Impaler 2005-10-08 21:22|| 2005-10-08 21:22|| Front Page Top

#3 "Clearly, Bush won't export Secularism abroad, because he doesn't believe that it should exist at home."
That's a bunch of Shiite, to be sure. You think Bush prefers Shiite to secular?

If you had turned Mecca and Medina to "charcoal", Iran and Saddam would have picked up the pieces and we'd be in a far bigger mess than we are in today. If you're going to be a Monday morning quarterback, at least play to have won.

Posted by Darrell 2005-10-08 21:35|| 2005-10-08 21:35|| Front Page Top

#4 Good points. Wrap twice.

Posted by Alcoa the Vlad Hat 2005-10-08 21:36|| 2005-10-08 21:36|| Front Page Top

#5 If you had your way, Vlad dear, there would have been a world-wide depression due to lack of petroleum by 1. November, 2001... at best.

Iraq and Iran would have turned off the pumps in response to an attack on Saudi Arabia, even though they've never been fond on those Beduin camel riders -- and most of the world doesn't have even as much of a strategic reserve as the U.S. does, and the rest have no reserve at all. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941 out of fear that Roosevelt would cut off Japan's access to the raw materials, including coal and oil, that it needed to survive. In 2001, the world believed that Saddam Hussein had weaponized chemicals, probably weaponized biologicals, was getting close to a nuke, and had both his own hard boyz and hired terrorists to deliver them, even without the missiles he was known to be working on. Saudi Arabia has only ever had money and control of the haj.

So tell me, Vlad, should Bush have attacked the threat that had been feared imminent throughout the latter half of the previous decade by the leading intelligence agencies of the world, or the longer term threat that might well be brought down by internal dissent without Anerican troops to protect the ruling family?

Posted by trailing wife 2005-10-08 22:07|| 2005-10-08 22:07|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm sorry, that should read

Saudi Arabia has only ever had money and cannon fodder and control of the haj.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-10-08 22:10|| 2005-10-08 22:10|| Front Page Top

#7 TW, FDR had cut off their access to oil and scrap steel. That's why they concluded they had to attack south to get the Oil in the Dutch East Indies. And I suspect FDR expected they would responsd.

Posted by Grereper Hupung4295 2005-10-08 22:12|| 2005-10-08 22:12|| Front Page Top

#8 I'll trust you on that, Grereper Hupung4295. I thought he'd only threatened to, or the Japanese leadership was realistically concerned at the result if he should.

But does that fact change the logic of the argument?

Posted by trailing wife 2005-10-08 22:30|| 2005-10-08 22:30|| Front Page Top

#9 Vlad chgs my self-esteem from bloodthirsty jerk to just...jerk

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-10-08 23:30|| 2005-10-08 23:30|| Front Page Top

#10 Lol, mee too, heh.

Posted by .com 2005-10-08 23:38|| 2005-10-08 23:38|| Front Page Top

#11 I want very specific targeting - symbolic targets don't impress me - they're for press consumption... That would be a waste of time since I've got the MSM on my secondary list.

Posted by .com 2005-10-08 23:49|| 2005-10-08 23:49|| Front Page Top

#12 Specific to MM ownership /control? YEAH - I wanna see MM poverty vows unvoluntarily!

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-10-08 23:54|| 2005-10-08 23:54|| Front Page Top

#13 Sounds good to me... There wouldn't be an "A" List (or B or C) much less a wank-o-matic circuit for them, if I wuz King of the Werld.

Posted by .com 2005-10-08 23:57|| 2005-10-08 23:57|| Front Page Top

#14 I'd SPECIFICALLY target the known holdings of ANY of the MM's or Basij or any other of their little brownshirt cowards

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-10-09 00:00|| 2005-10-09 00:00|| Front Page Top

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