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2005-07-31 Afghanistan/South Asia

Perv accuses Britain of failing to tackle militants

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Posted by Fred 2005-07-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Howler of the Day.

The Jihadi Factory Mgr pissing on the Mgr of his most prestigious outlet.

Posted by .com 2005-07-31 00:07|| 2005-07-31 00:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Isn't there an old saying about a pot calling the kettle "black"?

Posted by BigEd 2005-07-31 00:22|| 2005-07-31 00:22|| Front Page Top

#3 Oh well, what could I say. Perv is correct. The west is busy sheltering the criminals without considering that political asylum is only for people who never promoted or used violence, no ifs, and no buts. We have to live with the consequences if we misuse a noble concept for our immediate show. After all who cares about the long term consequences of our foreign policies in the west?

Posted by Snalet Ebbesh6073 2005-07-31 03:36|| 2005-07-31 03:36|| Front Page Top

#4 "Oh well, what could I say."

Lol - well why don't you? Where do you think you are? This is Rantburg. Speak your mind and toss the cryptic asides, lol.

"After all who cares about the long term consequences of our foreign policies in the west?"

I do - and I'm not alone here by a long shot. The traditional State Dept style accommodations and deals with slimeballs, dictators, et al should end. I want to see the US conduct itself with standards worthy of the best of us - accurately portraying faux-allies for what they are, wherever they are, and dealing with them accordingly. We can do it right, especially if we flush out the worms from our agencies that have conflicting personal agendas.

Posted by .com 2005-07-31 03:55|| 2005-07-31 03:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Dear dot com
I am a proud citizen of US and have lived more than 30 years in US without leaving for a single day except for visiting Canada. I can not explain why I felt devastated after the 9/11 attack; after all, I am just a naturalized citizen. It is a myth that every one in this country could speak their mind freely. Here is am example. An entire Cryptic Christen family from Egypt was murdered brutally for the man of this family believed he could speak whatever he wanted. Except Rantburg and local news, all the main stream media were shamefully silent about it. Well, what could I say about speaking my mind?

Posted by Snalet Ebbesh6073 2005-07-31 05:43|| 2005-07-31 05:43|| Front Page Top

#6 SE - You're anonymous here - so you're safe in speaking your mind. You may catch some hell for the content, lol, but you are anonymous, heh, so feel free. I catch hell pretty regularly, myself, lol. What I was (badly) trying to say is if you feel comfortable with the comments posted on RB, then you know you're home!

I know why 9/11 was devastating to me - because those were innocent people - 3,000 nearly random people - completely blameless of whatever grievance the murderers could possibly claim. bin Laden's ilk, the murderers, have fairly damned and doomed both themselves and their cause.

Any topic on which you have insight or see a point not yet brought up, etc - please jump in. RB is an excellent home. Pick yourself a permanent posting name and join the fun. :-)

Posted by .com 2005-07-31 06:38|| 2005-07-31 06:38|| Front Page Top

#7 I have to go with snalet here. Perv may be the pot calling the kettle black, but that implies that Tony is a pot. It's time for all Western countries to do more to stop the hate spewed in Madrassas and especially the British. They have been particularly bad about allowing it to continue. I hope Perv continues to press the issue because it does two things - one it shines a light on the hyprocrisy of complaining that Pakistan isn't cleaning out the snake pits when we are doing a poor job of it ourselves and secondly, it highligts the fallacy of The traditional State Dept style accommodations and deals with slimeballs, dictators.

Snalet - speak your mind!

Posted by 2b 2005-07-31 07:46|| 2005-07-31 07:46|| Front Page Top

#8 Snalet, you are NOT "just a naturalized citizen" you are a real citizen. You earned it, you didn't get it on a silver platter. Be proud of it. Speak your mind, you've earned the right.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-07-31 08:18|| 2005-07-31 08:18|| Front Page Top

#9 OK, coming from Perv, this is major Pot/Kettle action, but he does have a valid point. It is the same one Mark Steyn makes over in a Page 4 article. The jihadis are good at gaming the system and it is easy to do in western countries. It needs to stop.

As for the naturalized citizens somehow being second class, what Mrs. D said times two. Unlike those of us who were lucky enough to fall into it and sometimes take it for granted, these folks took a deliberate oath to uphold the Constitution. How many 'citizens' would be willing to do that?

Posted by SteveS 2005-07-31 09:59|| 2005-07-31 09:59|| Front Page Top

#10 Let me echo Mrs. D. and Steve. I am the child of two naturalized citizens. I am grateful that they made that choice, so that I got to be American just by being born. Snalet Ebbesh6073, we're glad you chose to be an American, and welcome to Rantburg!

As for the tragedy of the Coptic Christian family, which was covered and discussed extensively at the time here at Rantburg, I do believe it was brought to the attention of the perpetrators that such behaviour is unacceptable here in America. This is a recurring problem with each wave of immigration, unfortunately, but nowadays most Italians are not subject to the Mafia, nor most Chinese to the Triads, etc. So there is hope even in the midst of grief, truly!

Posted by trailing wife 2005-07-31 10:38|| 2005-07-31 10:38|| Front Page Top

#11 Perv is absolutly RIGHT! He is doing a LOT more, given the fact that his country is overwellmingly Muslim, than the west is. He was born to all these "militants". Britian (and the west in general) invited them in.

Posted by FeralCat 2005-07-31 15:07|| 2005-07-31 15:07|| Front Page Top

#12 For Crimney's sake, will someone please buy the Perv a better set of duds. And please shave that cheezy mustachio. And wipe that scared rabbit look off yer mug, dontcha know yer an evil-doer for Pete's sake.

Posted by Zpaz 2005-07-31 18:51|| 2005-07-31 18:51|| Front Page Top

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