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2005-07-31 Afghanistan/South Asia
General Musharraf's Commitment to Wipe Out Jihadis Badly Exposed
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Posted by .com 2005-07-31 01:38|| || Front Page|| [11 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Great article, great comments. Can we get this mailed or faxed to Porter Goss please?
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-07-31 12:09||   2005-07-31 12:09|| Front Page Top

#2 I'll have to second Seafarious and say great article.

Even when I sprinkle the article from the source with plenty of salt, it just points out further that in the end, Pakistan can't be relied upon to help us win this fight. It really is one step forward and two steps backward for them. The ISI and Pakistani army are up to their necks in training these jihadi and support of islamic terrorism in the rest of the world. When is it occur to get anyone beside us few that Pakistan is part of the problem, not part of the solution. Just looking at Afghanistan it's apparent that Pakistan and Iran are “unhelpful” in many respects. Pakistan is providing many of the bodies who are fighting the establishment of a stable nation. It appears that Pakistan has decided that is not in it's long term interest that a stable government form in Afghanistan. Again that is plain to many of of but not to our “leaders.”

“Hamid’s affidavit says that he was preparing to attack hospitals and shopping centers.” When will we wake up and just admit that these people are deserving of no quarter? Their very choice of targets show that this religious philosophy is antithetical to modern western life. It is so antithetical that we can't allow it to exist in the west unless if undergoes a major reformation. A reformation which by it's own religious texts it shows it is incompatible with. How are we going to deal with this without compromising the values that the "typical westerner" holds dear? The stuff that makes us who we are as western peoples?

Sorry for going off track. I had to think out loud some place someone might even give a rats behind.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-07-31 19:54||   2005-07-31 19:54|| Front Page Top

#3 I can't think of any way to say, "It's ok, SPoD, we care," without sounding like a support group meeting, which is exactly how I don't want to sound. (Although I refuse to get involved with rats in any way other than medical research -- I hope you don't mind. ;-) ). But we seem to take it in turn to vent on a central concern: how can we win a war we must win, without giving up all that makes us different from those who've chosen to be our enemy? .com has posted about this several times, I wept on his shoulder on the same subject (and he offered me tea!, self-proclaimed barbarian that he is), rkb touched on it last night... now it's your turn.

The only conclusion I've come to, such as it is, is that if we are forced to it we will do what must be done, but I hope as Old Spook once said -- calmly and without hatred or anger. Their keystones are hatred and slavery; ours must be a love of freedom and justice for all, not just a favoured few, and acceptance of the cost to achieve that. A great many Rantburgers have already paid a portion of that price, and still do -- whether in blood or bone or disturbances in the night -- and we all honour them for it. And sadly, more still will do so in the future. And no matter what platitudes President Bush may utter for public consumption, I cannot imagine he hasn't thought about the kinds of things we discuss so passionately on Fred's bandwidth. But our boys and girls in uniform can't do everything at once, no matter how kewl their toys -- even including the latest things our remoteman and his buddies have been playing with in the labs ;-) -- so Pakistan and Iran and Saudi Arabia and the rest will just have to wait their turn.

Note: by "our boys and girls in uniform" I'm referring to all those who fight on the side of Right, not just the Yanks. ... In case anyone was wondering.

And now I've used up more than my fair share of that self-same bandwidth, so I'll hop down from my high perch, ok? (That's the disadvantage of being almost but not quite 5' tall (152 cm for the rest of the world) -- if I don't climb up on my high horse, nobody can see who's speaking!)
Posted by trailing wife 2005-07-31 22:16||   2005-07-31 22:16|| Front Page Top

#4 Yeah, but SPoD can make the green type.
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-31 22:26||   2005-07-31 22:26|| Front Page Top

#5 That's because he's much cleverer than me, Shipman. But it is pretty.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-07-31 22:30||   2005-07-31 22:30|| Front Page Top

#6 Well logic is good in it's place, but making pretty type is special. It near killed me to find out that dark green was AoS.
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-31 22:37||   2005-07-31 22:37|| Front Page Top

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