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2005-02-10 Israel-Palestine

Daniel Pipes' Think Tank: Peace plan won't work

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Posted by PlanetDan 2005-02-10 3:56:57 PM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 sure its tactical. So what? tactical doesnt necessarily mean short term.

At this point theres nothing to be gained for Israel by hanging on to most of the territories.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2005-02-10 4:12:01 PM|| 2005-02-10 4:12:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 The Paleo government has to crackdown on and disarm the militants and I see no sign of that occuring. Unless and until that happens, this is going nowhere. Its just wishful thinking.

Posted by phil_b 2005-02-10 5:25:11 PM|| 2005-02-10 5:25:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 PlanetDan, Abbas has long believed that the Palestinians can peacefully destroy Israel using two weapons:

1. Population: Palestinian wives used to produce 7-9 children each. The number has now dropped to about 2.5, or about the same as Israeli wives, but the Palestinians haven't acknowledged the drop. But with the previous high population growth, Abbas planned to simply crowd the Jews off the map.

2. International pressure: Much of the world automatically supports the Palestinians over Israel. Every time. Regardless of the issue. Abbas is counting on this world pressure to overcome U.S. support of Israel, and to force the Israelis to sign on to increasingly deleterious Accords and Processes and... until slice by slice like a salami (Arafat's image, actually) they allow themselves to be negotiated out of existence.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-02-10 5:48:17 PM|| 2005-02-10 5:48:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 "The Paleo government has to crackdown on and disarm the militants"

Ah, Phil, who do you think the Paleo goverment are?

Posted by gromgorru 2005-02-10 9:54:01 PM|| 2005-02-10 9:54:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Pipes sounds awfully pessimistic here, but I see where he's coming from. If Abbas is being as half-assed as Pipes thinks he is regarding a long-term peace with Israel, he might have a reason for it other than hoping to lay low until they can push Israel into the sea. It is also possible that Abbas didn't want to go too far in proposing long-term peace in order to save face within the larger Arab world.

That being said, my money is on Pipes anyway.

Posted by Chris W. 2005-02-10 10:01:06 PM|| 2005-02-10 10:01:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Am I missing something?

With their own state, the Palestinians also control their own trade, import/export, embassies, seat at the UN, etc.. Everything any other terrorist-state can do with little interference.

Posted by Pappy 2005-02-10 11:26:20 PM|| 2005-02-10 11:26:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 TW - I hope those pop. numbers are true, where did you see those? The breeding numbers dropping are a good sign that the wymyns are wising up

Posted by Frank G 2005-02-10 11:29:56 PM|| 2005-02-10 11:29:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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