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2004-10-26 Home Front: Politix
October Suprise?? Hanoi Directed Kerry
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Posted by JerseyMike 2004-10-26 8:15:29 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Too little too late. The MSM can bury anything for a week.
Posted by Tom 2004-10-26 8:36:14 AM||   2004-10-26 8:36:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Not in the blogosphere.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2004-10-26 8:38:36 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2004-10-26 8:38:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 For it to be a surprise, it has to be something people didn't think would happen. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a W-2 from the VC.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-10-26 8:38:47 AM||   2004-10-26 8:38:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 The MSM will bury it forever, not just a week. Too bad there is no "diversity" in the media.
Posted by Rod Stanton  2004-10-26 9:44:02 AM||   2004-10-26 9:44:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Wonder if Shaun Hannity has the cajones to air this? I know that he's spearheaded a few items before. Then again, unless there's an authentication/positive custody trail...it won't happen.
Posted by RN  2004-10-26 9:50:00 AM||   2004-10-26 9:50:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 The media will say, "Oh, look, it's Corsi. He's responsible for that book full of lies from those swift people. And also those 'racist' posts on Free Republic."

If they say anything at all, that is.
Posted by growler 2004-10-26 9:51:19 AM||   2004-10-26 9:51:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm sure the MSM will give this all the coverage they laid on the forged documents.

In about 40 years.

Isn't this treason with a capitol "T"? I mean he was stil a naval officer for pete's sake!
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-10-26 9:51:23 AM||   2004-10-26 9:51:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Leave me outta this! I've got my own problems.
Posted by PETE  2004-10-26 9:53:23 AM||   2004-10-26 9:53:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Yeah, I think there's a reason that O'Neill is the one who does interviews, and not Corsi... Who let Corsi out of his rubber-lined room?

Five'll get you ten this is random bullshit. It stinks to high heaven of the sort of rumor-mongering hysteria which I usually associate with my moonbat friends, most of whom I'm not speaking to this week for that very reason.
Posted by Mitch H.  2004-10-26 10:02:30 AM|| [http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]  2004-10-26 10:02:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 actually, I think this is frightening! If this is true we should all be very concerned indeed!!!

The media thought it was imperative that they investigate Bush's AWOL to inform Their People(TM) about Bush's character - but we already know that we can't rely on the MSM to do anything other than bury this. But if it is true, and there is a good chance it is, Mr. Kerry is one of the biggest traitors who ever walked the face of the earth.

I know Kerry supporters will try to pshaw this, but if this is true, this makes him so incredibly dangerous that it's hard to fathom. Think about it. Think about what this means if it is true.
Posted by 2b 2004-10-26 10:36:57 AM||   2004-10-26 10:36:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 To use a Democrat phrase, "forged or not, it has the ring of truth and deserves to be investigated." Or as they said once before, "the seriousness of the charge mandates further investigation."

Unfortunately nothing will happen. The bastard should have been charged with treason and shot 30 years ago. It's too late now. We missed our chance.
Posted by RWV 2004-10-26 11:20:37 AM||   2004-10-26 11:20:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 I sent this to the Wall Street Journal's OpinionJournal.com Best of the Web column, and to InstaPundit. We'll see what they do with it.
Posted by trailing wife 2004-10-26 11:39:46 AM||   2004-10-26 11:39:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Ok, let's lose the "treason" rhetoric, please. In the US, at least, treason requires a direct act, talk ain't enough.

That said, take a look at who else was invited to the meet - CPUSA and their stalking horse, the PCPJ...
Posted by mojo  2004-10-26 11:48:40 AM||   2004-10-26 11:48:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 You all have got to stop being cynics. It is unbecoming victors in the election campaign.

This is huge and whether Kerry wins this is a huge hammer hanging over our domestic left. It doesn't matter whether the MSM decides to run with it. The facts are there in black and white. This whole thing of putting Kerry's Viet Nam era record under scrutiny in fact places all the left under that same microscope.

Try to see it in its most proper light. Viet Nam era vets, the folks who held the line in the 60s and who have held the line in 2004 have just been given a wonderful welcome home and congrats gift: a permenant blackjack we can beat our domestic left with like they owe us money.
Posted by badanov  2004-10-26 11:54:24 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org]  2004-10-26 11:54:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 call it what you want, mojo. But I'm not so jaded as to think that it's no big deal that Kerry, after(?) serving in the armed forces secretly met with the enemy and implemented their plans. Oh, and FACT..he was present during meetings which discussed the assasination of a sitting US congressman.

It just shows how powerful the media really is that so many Americans are actually considering voting for this horrible human being.

I used to wonder how it was that Hitler was able to murder 6 million Jews and the Germans just sat back and did nothing. Now I understand.

Posted by 2b 2004-10-26 12:07:35 PM||   2004-10-26 12:07:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 #13
Treason is also characterized as aid and comfort to an enemy.

It's my personal belief that Kerry should be investigated for it. But whatever.
Posted by Anon4021 2004-10-26 12:33:53 PM||   2004-10-26 12:33:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#17  a permenant blackjack we can beat our domestic left with like they owe us money.

If they were embarassed by the disclosure. But 1) they won't admit its truth, and 2) even if they do, it will be justified as opposition to the fascist US warmachine.

These people are not rational in the same way as you and me. That's why they opposed the war in the first place. They hate themselves.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-10-26 12:50:40 PM||   2004-10-26 12:50:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Right you are Mrs. D. This aren't voting for Kerry, they are voting to prove that they still aren't old and grey...they are still young and rebellious.
Posted by 2b 2004-10-26 12:58:30 PM||   2004-10-26 12:58:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 mojo: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj2.htm
904. ART. 104. AIDING THE ENEMY
Any person who--
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly;
shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.

or at the very least:
933. ART. 133. CONDUCT UNBECOMING AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN
Any commissioned officer, cadet, or midshipman who is convicted of conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.
Posted by RWV 2004-10-26 1:14:38 PM||   2004-10-26 1:14:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Ok, well, as the the first (104 sec. 2), it's questionable whether the UCMJ is applicable to non-active-duty personnel. If it is, then 104 may be invoked, though a good civ lawyer might help. Or not, as Courts Martial are notorious for confounding civs. ;)

But 133 (Conduct Unbecoming) is a catch-all, and is used (pretty much exclusively) to screw the people whom the Bigs want screwed. It's a rigged game, in case you weren't aware.
Posted by mojo  2004-10-26 1:34:56 PM||   2004-10-26 1:34:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 mojo, I was in SAC when I flew and didn't know how to do anything unbecoming and after I transferred to Systems Command couldn't think of anything far enough afield to be considered conduct unbecoming.
Posted by RWV 2004-10-26 1:50:33 PM||   2004-10-26 1:50:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Badanov,
I agree completely. This is how it will play out (if Kerry wins):

The media will sit on this to help him get elected. The left will be disappointed fairly early in his term (for not getting out of Iraq fast enough, not differentiating enough from Bush's policies, failing to build alliances, losing the war, whatever) and these lingering stories of his meetings with the enemy and the eventual leaking of the un-released military records will resurface, be fleshed out, and will destroy his presidency.
Posted by Rearden 2004-10-26 2:08:19 PM||   2004-10-26 2:08:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 and will destroy his presidency.

Opening it up for the Wicked Witch of the West Hillary in 2008!
Posted by RN  2004-10-26 2:24:43 PM||   2004-10-26 2:24:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Sounds like a plan.
Posted by RWV 2004-10-26 2:34:54 PM||   2004-10-26 2:34:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 I'm not sure the MSM can bury it until after the election. It is just too hot, and it appears to be well documented, someone is going to pick it up and run with it. The linked documents are also fascinating. As I read them, they played like a film documentary in my mind--a devastating documentary that could lead to impeachment if Kerry won. I'm not usually one to get too excited about these things (monday's "october surprise" in the Washington times was a big nothing in my opinion), but this thing seems very serious, with legs, traction, and every other relevant metaphor. Pass the popcorn.
Posted by sludj 2004-10-26 2:39:47 PM||   2004-10-26 2:39:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Powerline (who led on RatherGate) have the story and are linking to the NY Sun. http://www.nysun.com/article/3756
Posted by sludj 2004-10-26 2:58:04 PM||   2004-10-26 2:58:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 I'm betting Fox runs the story tonight, WaPo makes a mention tomorrow, CNN and MSNBC are shamed into covering the story by Friday. Fingers crossed.
Posted by sludj 2004-10-26 2:59:47 PM||   2004-10-26 2:59:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 EMail the reliable talk radio folks...

Someones got to listen if a lot of people are agitating them...

Rush
Sean Hannity
Ollie North
Hugh Hewitt
Laura Ingraham
Al Rantel
John Ziegler


Posted by BigEd 2004-10-26 4:52:10 PM||   2004-10-26 4:52:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 RN - Hey! Dont insult the Wicked Witch of the West like that! Geeeze!

I hope this developes into 'news'. But I am not crossing my fingers that CBS/NBC/ABC will pick it up.

If CBS (60 minutes) did run with it it might do a lot to make amends - depending on how fair it is..
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-10-26 4:58:45 PM||   2004-10-26 4:58:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 "Hanoi directed Kerry"
Yawn, old news.
Posted by Whuling Whemp3188 2004-10-26 5:13:03 PM||   2004-10-26 5:13:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 Heh.
Posted by mojo  2004-10-26 5:23:37 PM||   2004-10-26 5:23:37 PM|| Front Page Top

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