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2004-09-07 Home Front: WoT
Goss: Interrogations Key to War on Terror
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Posted by JerseyMike 2004-09-07 7:22:42 AM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

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Interrogations indeed might be the key to the war on terror, but that doesn't necessarily mean that torture is the key to successful interrogations.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-09-07 9:12:03 AM||   2004-09-07 9:12:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Mike, did you ever bother explaining why you blame the Russians for all the dead kids in Beslan? Or why you took personal offense at the press getting some blame for child labor?

As for "torture" -- shut the hell up. You'll notice that the people responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib are getting trials and punishment. Now, will you please quit beating that dead horse?
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-09-07 9:17:19 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-09-07 9:17:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 A lot of the ICRC/AI complaints (like the "women guards" thing) are total crap, and these prisoners aren't entitled to a vacation. But in the wake of Abu Ghraib, it would be in our interest for the designated DCI to take a lot less cavalier attitude about these issues. No point in making this fight any tougher than it has to be.
Posted by VAMark 2004-09-07 9:55:12 AM||   2004-09-07 9:55:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Mark, maybe so, but when we start to tell these anti-american, anti-WOT asshats to "go f*&k themselves, we're doing this the best way to save American lives", it'd be the best way to handle them. They don't protest Castro, the PRC, et al, because those countries don't care about the ankle-biting leftys. We should show the ICRC the respect they deserve. When they let the Magen David Adom in, we'll quit calling them antisemitic assholes
Posted by Frank G  2004-09-07 10:33:04 AM||   2004-09-07 10:33:04 AM|| Front Page Top

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Re #2 (Robert Crawford): Mike, did you ever bother explaining why you blame the Russians for all the dead kids in Beslan? Or why you took personal offense at the press getting some blame for child labor?

I responded in both threads, about Beslan and about child labor.

Robert, if you want me to take you seriously, respond to what I write instead of your own projections.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-09-07 10:47:40 AM||   2004-09-07 10:47:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 If you want ME to take YOU seriously, stop acting like a whiny little twit. Your responses in those threads consist of the following:

"Whatever"

"Get a grip"

"?????????????????????????????????"

You're posing, not making an argument. All I'm doing is comparing your pose to the beliefs of others who strike similar poses.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-09-07 2:14:41 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-09-07 2:14:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 
Absurd statements don't deserve thoughtful responses. If Zenster writes that Reuters is to blame for child labor in India because a Reuters article on that subject doesn't expound on genital mutilation of girls in Egypt, then a "Whatever" might have to suffice from me.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-09-07 2:35:48 PM||   2004-09-07 2:35:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Then why bother to respond at all?
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-09-07 2:38:37 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-09-07 2:38:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Frank - They are antisemitic a**holes. I've got no problem with anyone here calling them that. IMO, for practical reasons unrelated to the substance of the matter, the DCI should forgo the pleasure. It makes it harder for some people who can help us to do so.

Castro and the PRC aren't successes on their own terms let alone ours. No need to take their lead until they do something that works.
Posted by VAMark 2004-09-07 3:19:19 PM||   2004-09-07 3:19:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 agreed - I use them only to expose the hypocrisy of NGO's that yap at the U.S. while ignoring the real offenders
Posted by Frank G  2004-09-07 3:34:19 PM||   2004-09-07 3:34:19 PM|| Front Page Top

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