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2004-06-11 Israel-Palestine

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Posted by tipper 2004-06-11 1:45:42 AM|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 30 kilos isn't much of bang. Looks like Israel want to do some long distance helizapping.

Posted by Phil B 2004-06-11 3:05:15 AM|| 2004-06-11 3:05:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 How was Israel able to acheive this milestone?! Did they buy a "dud" from a previous attack of ours on some anti US country(ie Sudan, Afghan, Libya etc) and reversed engineered it: or am I suppose to believe someone sat down with pencil and paper and just "figured it out"!! Just what is it, about the Israelis, that makes things come true?

Posted by smn 2004-06-11 3:31:26 AM|| 2004-06-11 3:31:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Ohh, by the way..."Delilah" is the perfect name for the missile, they HAD to betray us to get it... (engineering)!!

Posted by smn 2004-06-11 3:35:48 AM|| 2004-06-11 3:35:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 smn, cruise missile technology is at least 25 years old. It so secret that a man in New Zealand. will sell plans to build your own for $10. Half a dozen competent engineers could build one in no time.

Just what is it, about the Israelis, that makes things come true? Really good scientists and engineers helps a lot.

I'd worry more about the technologies that Israel seems to be ahead of everyone else like remote imaging. Ever wonder how Israel finds those people to helizap?

Posted by Phil B 2004-06-11 3:55:54 AM|| 2004-06-11 3:55:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 There are certain cultural factors at work in Israel that would affect the rapid development of any kind of technology, weapons related or not. But weapons technology becomes of critical importance when you are surrounded by folks who want to kill you and your children.

Posted by Anon 2004-06-11 6:51:46 AM|| 2004-06-11 6:51:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Beware Jooooooos with slide rulz.

Posted by Shipman 2004-06-11 7:01:38 AM|| 2004-06-11 7:01:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 "Just what is it, about the Israelis, that makes things come true?"

They aren't Arabs.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-06-11 7:03:22 AM|| 2004-06-11 7:03:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Shipman, funniest comment for days!

Posted by Phil B 2004-06-11 7:06:55 AM|| 2004-06-11 7:06:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 smn - the Israelis are in the tech forefront on many systems, and jointly develop systems with the US. They aren't intellectual backwaters like most of their neighbors, and as Anon said - they have a desire not to get killed. This article is a nice head's up to Lebanon and Syria and Saudi. I'd test it on Nasrallah first

Posted by Frank G 2004-06-11 8:27:58 AM|| 2004-06-11 8:27:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Don't forget, the Israelis are one of the most innovative people in the western world. Most of the tech giants such as Intel, Microsoft, etc. have a number of facilities in Israel.

I work for Intel, and know for a fact our Israeli folks are doing some very cool technology development.

Did I mention also that my financial advisor just bought me into an Israeli technology based mutual fund, as they are poised to grow given the global economy, their very attractive P/E ratio, and the collapse of Intifada II...

No wonder the Arabs seethe so much, a tiny country of 6 million jews has accomplished more intellectually than 600 million arabs in the last 100, 200, or 500 year time span... Take your pick.

Posted by Francis 2004-06-11 8:39:44 AM|| 2004-06-11 8:39:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 A cruise missile is a small airplane with a warhead and a really good autopilot. While it's not quite something you could build with stone knives and bearskins, it's not out of reach for most countries.

Posted by Mike 2004-06-11 9:14:24 AM|| 2004-06-11 9:14:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Wow, smn is a dumbass.

Posted by AllahHateMe 2004-06-11 9:19:21 AM|| 2004-06-11 9:19:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 I think what SMN doesn't realize is that it's easy for a government to build a cruise missle, but it's an entirely different matter aiming it. It's the fact that we can fly a Cruise missle through a doorway with GPS that makes it so deadly, not the missle itself.

Posted by Charles 2004-06-11 10:06:01 AM|| 2004-06-11 10:06:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 smn - they can do it because they spend their time studying science, math and looking forward toward success - unlike you who spends your time trying to cook up crackpot conspiracy theories of why someone is more successful than you and stewing over all your failures.

You sound like a whitetrash looser. Don't you have to get going to your friends trailer to shave you head? Get a life you turd.

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2004-06-11 10:07:13 AM|| 2004-06-11 10:07:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 Ever wonder how Israel finds those people to helizap?

They have a really good humint spy network - something that our own U.S. intelligence outfits are lacking. U.S. forces are quite capable of zapping their enemies in the ME; problem is, there's precious few on the ground out there that can point our armament in the proper direction at the proper time.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-06-11 10:19:23 AM|| 2004-06-11 10:19:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 I think smn is trying to (poorly) infer that Israel was given the technology by the US.

If so, I hope it's true. There's only one Democratic nation in the ME and there's only one ally we have there who supports the freedom of the individual, and that's Israel. They deserve all the support we can possibly give them and that includes weapons technology.

So kindly shove it where the sun doesn't shine, smn.

Posted by Chris W. 2004-06-11 10:29:44 AM|| 2004-06-11 10:29:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 Chris W, it sounds more like the moron smn is trying to imply that Israel stole the technology from the US. But I agree with you, I hope we gave it to them.

B-A-R is absolutely right, the Israeli's have an incredible hum-int capability.

Posted by AllahHateMe 2004-06-11 11:13:48 AM|| 2004-06-11 11:13:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 This feels like piling on, but I'll do it anyway:

Quick history lesson: the first cruise missiles were the British "A.T." and the American "Kettering Bug"--both developed during World War One. (There's a Bug on display in the USAF Museum in Dayton.) They didn't work because the available guidance technology wasn't quite up to the concept, but it still proves my point.

Posted by Mike 2004-06-11 11:51:55 AM|| 2004-06-11 11:51:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 Who the hell wrote this?

Delilah is old from begin of 90's. It was born as is a decoy drone but also as long range anti radar missile.

What about the so caled 1000km cruise missile launched from Israeli Submarines?

Posted by Anonymous4963 2004-06-11 12:44:30 PM|| 2004-06-11 12:44:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Any thoughts on when a long range version of this missile would be available? Say, maybe when it is clear that Iran is nuclear weapons program is a sufficient threat...

Posted by Anonymous5197 2004-06-11 2:43:31 PM|| 2004-06-11 2:43:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Bekaa Valley, Lebanon : Hear a whooshing sound growing louder?

Allah Akhbar, Baby!

Posted by BigEd 2004-06-11 2:56:48 PM|| 2004-06-11 2:56:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 I'm surprised we haven't sold them any Tomahawks. Anyone have a reason why not?

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2004-06-11 3:06:17 PM|| 2004-06-11 3:06:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 One reason might be that Isreal might modify them so that they are better and not tell the Americans how they did it. I believe they did some mods to fighter jets a while back and didn't tell them what they did. Might be like Ford selling their best selling car to GM....

Posted by Anonymous5197 2004-06-11 3:18:45 PM|| 2004-06-11 3:18:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Eh...um just to point out.. Israel does have the Popeye cruise missile system.
While the initial Popeye variant has a range of about 75-80km, the turbo variant is sub launched it appears capable of a larger range plus a larger warhead.

Posted by Valentine 2004-06-11 6:10:01 PM|| 2004-06-11 6:10:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Hush, Valentine no Joooo talk about secret squirel.

Posted by Shipman 2004-06-11 8:39:07 PM|| 2004-06-11 8:39:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Tomahawks (in their many variants) are too expensive, too long range, AND can carry nuclear warheads. Probably a little too explosive to put into the mix in the mideast. As for "cruise missiles" Titan Corp got a contract a year or two ago to produce their Affordable Weapon System, a $50,000 cruise missile made from commercially available components. The performance was a little better than the Israeli missile, but close. The advantage here over a Tomahawk is that these things are relatively cheap and can loiter in an area waiting for a target. They are also recoverable, sort of a hybrid between an RPV and a cruise missile.

Posted by RWV 2004-06-11 8:58:22 PM|| 2004-06-11 8:58:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 RWV - Is anyone "watching" the shipments from Titan Corp - making certain of the actual final destinations, I wonder? Sometimes Bad Guys actually do wear Black Hats.

Posted by .com 2004-06-11 9:05:43 PM|| 2004-06-11 9:05:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 DoD and Lockheed are watching Titan very closely.

Posted by RWV 2004-06-12 12:26:28 AM|| 2004-06-12 12:26:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#29 The quality of sleep just improved! Thx!

Posted by .com 2004-06-12 12:42:44 AM|| 2004-06-12 12:42:44 AM|| Front Page Top

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