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2005-03-09 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Chechens say fight goes on, Basayev and Count Dooku in the running

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-03-09 3:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 the killing could trigger revenge attacks.
Yes, but it will seriously cut down on other attacks.

He's more dangerous dead than when he was calling for peaceful dialog.
That's probably a true statement, taken literally, though it's not saying much. Key word "when"

there is now an overwhelming conclusion: there really isnât anyone to negotiate with anymore,"
What about Count Dorko or Basayev? What are they? Cchopped liver? I mean, yet?

Posted by 2b 2005-03-09 9:51:12 AM|| 2005-03-09 9:51:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 there is now an overwhelming conclusion: there really isnât anyone to negotiate with anymore,

As Corben Dallas would put it: "Anyone else want to negotiate"?

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-09 5:26:10 PM|| 2005-03-09 5:26:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 What about Count Dorko or Basayev? What are they? chopped liver? I mean, yet?

The fact Maskhadov condemned terrorism and all attacks against civilians made him a person one could negotiate with, if one wanted to. He was also a Chechen president directly elected by the Chechen people without Moscow forcing the result.

I don't know anything about Doku, but Basayev is an unelected murderer and terrorist.

Many people have compared Maskhadov's death to the killing of Yassin -- I think a more accurate analogy would have been if both Arafat and Abbas had been killed, leaving Yassin and Rantissi alive to negotiate with.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-03-09 8:40:10 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-03-09 8:40:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Maskhadov was elected. But ask yourself when, why and before what happened? Negotiate with Maskhadov for what? Prior to the second war(because it seems one wasn't enough)Maskhadov was the leader of the place and couldn't keep the gun toting thugs from doing what comes natural to them. So war #2 drags on and the gun toting thugtypes gain alot more power than Mackhadov can command. Maskhadov needed those thugs alot more than they did him! (Maskhadov and his talking head Zakayev did like to use Basayev and the other badboys to play good cop/bad cop to try to start negotiations from time to time) Remember the quote about bringing the perps behind Breslan to trial after the war? And what little sunni wahabbiewannabee took credit? How many no-name chechen rebels or civilians for that matter, got capped during war #2 without a trial for merely alleged criminal acts? None of them managed a personal best of 300 or so children killed on one day did they? Basayev, Khattab and most of the badboys didn't need Maskhadov, his money, or his blessing. Alot of the badboys have essentially said they are not going to play nice nice and negotiate with the russians, let alone negotiate in good faith with any intention of letting live and let live. So, really, what was Maskhadov going to offer and what could he have any chance of delivering? Given his lack of power negotiating with him over a solution to the war and underlying issues would have required a very well cultivated power of self-delusion.

Posted by Peppah 2005-03-09 11:02:43 PM|| 2005-03-09 11:02:43 PM|| Front Page Top

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