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2005-02-17 Home Front: Politix
Proposal would house prisoners in Mexico
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Posted by Steve White 2005-02-17 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Adminster ten lashes to illegal border-crossers when they are caught, and ten more to illegals that end up committing an additional crime while here, then deport them. They won't come back.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-02-17 12:23:03 AM||   2005-02-17 12:23:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 It worked for Australia, which set up a camp on Pacific state so obscure I can't even remember the name of it. Illegal entry into Oz is now zero.
Posted by phil_b 2005-02-17 1:00:41 AM||   2005-02-17 1:00:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Didn't the Aussies own that obscure island, or is my always-poor memory failing me yet again?
Posted by Steve White  2005-02-17 1:26:13 AM||   2005-02-17 1:26:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 That was Nauru, an independent nation, and a failed state through financial mismanagement. (Nauru had plenty of money thru phosphate royalties, and blew it on bad real estate deals, and the like.) But from Australia's POV, the plan- illegals in boats are intercepted at sea and never allowed to reach our hallowed soil- works just fine. They can go home with a bit of cash incentive or stare out to sea forever. Autralia is not an option.
I should add that they are checked out very thoroughly, and genuine refugees do get in. Most are not.
Posted by Grunter 2005-02-17 1:50:53 AM||   2005-02-17 1:50:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Steve, I believe for a while there was a camp on Christmas Island, which is an Australian territory.
Posted by phil_b 2005-02-17 1:58:35 AM||   2005-02-17 1:58:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Well, the next big NAFTA opportunity is obvious: the illegal catch / release graft game. My guess is that if its ever built the actual population in that prison will approach zero and Mexican authorities will be bussing "escapees" back to the US border.
Posted by AzCat 2005-02-17 3:31:35 AM||   2005-02-17 3:31:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 If they escape into Mexico, our objective will be met. Pass a law that escapees who cross back into the U.S. automatically receive the death penalty, without opportunity for appeal, and the problem should keep itself away.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-02-17 5:51:29 AM||   2005-02-17 5:51:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Why do I now have a vision of a hellishly uncomfortable prison for illegals that buts up right against and is wide open to the Mexican border?
Posted by AzCat 2005-02-17 6:53:57 AM||   2005-02-17 6:53:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Nice thought, AZCat, but it wouldn't do any good. Too few illegals are actually caught for it ot do more than deter those who have had bad luck or would be crossing close to where the prison is located.
Posted by Jame Retief  2005-02-17 7:31:50 AM||   2005-02-17 7:31:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Let's do it. I nominate Lyndie England as head warden! AzCat's right though, this would only let the Mexican gov't get a hold of some State cash. I don't think this would work. Now, sending 'em to Gitmo, I'm open to that suggestion.
Posted by BA  2005-02-17 11:13:58 AM||   2005-02-17 11:13:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 How do you prevent escapes?

1. Payment delivered only after prisoner has served his term.

2. Three time daily retina scans so no one takes an extended vacation and shows back up on the release day.

3. Give revocable green cards to certain members of Mexican staff.
Posted by Penguin 2005-02-17 2:19:34 PM||   2005-02-17 2:19:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Assuming this could be done, which I doubt, you have one big logistical problem.
How far can you build it from the American border so that:
a) we can oversee that it is being run to a certain acceptable standard (more or less American standard, not Mexican...as much as you might want that, keep in mind they're our prisoners and the last thing we really need is another excuse for the ACLU/Middle Ground crowd to have even a ghost of a chance to bring suit, claiming it's another Abu Ghraib and crap like that), and
b) far enough away from the American border that it would be a pain in the ass to try to come back in should the prisoners escape or are released.
Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-02-17 3:07:54 PM|| [http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]  2005-02-17 3:07:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Only if we can send their enablers there as well....
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-02-17 3:12:27 PM||   2005-02-17 3:12:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 build the "friendship fence™" and the problem diminishes greatly. Employer arrests and incarceration and national-standard DL's....
Posted by Frank G  2005-02-17 3:39:23 PM||   2005-02-17 3:39:23 PM|| Front Page Top

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