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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Gun S*x and Aliens
For REAL! And no Paleostinians either.
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/09/2014 15:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Who is crazy, you or me?"

Well I for sure wasn't the one that had a gun in my fun place.... so you win the crazy race.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/09/2014 15:23 Comments || Top||

#2  ...certainly hope it wasn't cocked...
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 01/09/2014 16:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Happiness is a warm gun.
Bang bang.
Shoot shoot
Posted by: Frank G || 01/09/2014 17:40 Comments || Top||

#4  There is an old saying "Never sleep with someone crazier than you are". I would say this guy violated that rule.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 01/09/2014 18:23 Comments || Top||


Bank Robbery Foiled When Teller Can't Read Hold'up Note
ANTIOCH, CA. - Police say a man with every intention of robbing a Wells Fargo Bank, entered that establishment on Monday morning and approached a bank teller. Without saying a word, the man took out a note and handed it to the teller. The only problem was...the teller couldn't read the note. According to police, the teller was unable to decipher the handwriting and then contacted her manager for assistance.

As the teller consulted with her manager, police say the suspect made a break for it, exiting the bank through the back door.

Bank staff eventually understood the suspect's intentions and notified police. Later, officers received a call reporting an unwanted guest at the nearby Somersville Towne Center. When they arrived on scene, they found 29-year-old Jamal Garrett who matched the description of the alleged bank robber. Witnesses from the failed bank heist positively identified Garrett as the suspect.

He was arrested for attempting to rob the bank, parole violations and poor penmanship.
This is why a good education is important. Or at least use spell check.
Posted by: Omavising Ebbemp9815 || 01/09/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ..but the bank will be sued by DoJ for institutional racism by expecting Jamal Garrett to be able to write in the white supremacists manner.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/09/2014 8:40 Comments || Top||

#2  P2K, lol.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/09/2014 11:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Ahhhhh, the lost art of penmanship.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 01/09/2014 11:42 Comments || Top||

#4  ...so the penance will probably not be writing, à la Bart Simpson, "I Will Not Rob Banks" 1,000 times...
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 01/09/2014 11:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Witnesses from the failed bank heist positively identified Garrett as the suspect.

Hand writing experts were not needed.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 13:17 Comments || Top||

#6  probably in flowing cursive
Posted by: Frank G || 01/09/2014 15:20 Comments || Top||

#7  If he had no costume on and is clearly easy to identify by appearance why not speak? Was he hoping to not alert customers?

I saw a thing a decade ago about new bank doors that were like bullet proof air locks and the idea was you let the bank robber go and then trap him on his way out. I'm surprised we don't see more of those things. LIke the photos on the back of the credit cards its like some folks really aren't taking things seriously. Perhaps because the government backs up the theft and loans.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 01/09/2014 15:20 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
FLOTUS wearing out welcome in HI, business owners bitc*ing and moaning.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 16:45 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Quiet! Madame needs her rest in the hammock.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/09/2014 17:27 Comments || Top||

#2  "Shut up" she explained. "You should feel fortunate"
Posted by: Frank G || 01/09/2014 17:42 Comments || Top||

#3  How long before the locals rise up?

Most likely the rest of eternity since the original Americans that did it to overthrow the British have been watered down to serf level.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/09/2014 17:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Not just Hawaii.
Posted by: charger || 01/09/2014 18:00 Comments || Top||

#5  #4, hands.... down snark o'the day.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 19:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Far too many are comfortable in their chains, having willingly traded their liberty for a mess of pottage.
Posted by: OldSpook || 01/09/2014 19:19 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Kraft says Velveeta running low
[MONEY.MSN] Kraft Foods says some customers may not be able to find Velveeta cheese over the next few weeks. A representative for the company, Jody Moore, didn't give any reasons for the apparent shortage, saying only that they happen from time to time given the "nature of manufacturing."

She noted that the lack of availability is more noticeable because of the seasonal demand during the NFL playoffs. The company has been airing TV commercials featuring a recipe for a chili con queso dip made with Velveeta.

Moore says it should be a short-term situation and that Kraft hasn't yet heard from any customers who are having problem finding the products. She did not say whether the company experienced a similar shortage last year.
Posted by: Fred || 01/09/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The local Mickey D's which I patronize has lately times run out of plastic-eating utensils, milk, + has been seemingly been putting thinner-sliced beef patties in its sammiches.

Going the way of Xerox paper, toiletries, + hand soap.

COINCIDENCE, YOU SAY, I THINK NOT!

D *** NGED SOLAR FLARE!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 01/09/2014 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Perhaps I can finally lose some weight.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 3:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Any word from Hormel about SPAM supplies?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 01/09/2014 8:37 Comments || Top||

#4  ...Nimble is on to something. Velveeta is to cheese as Spam is to ham.

Maybe the USDA has some "cheese" left over from the 90's that can be "quantitatively eased" into the market to prevent rioting..?
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 01/09/2014 9:45 Comments || Top||

#5  This is why we have the Strategic Cheese Reserve.
Posted by: Grunter || 01/09/2014 10:45 Comments || Top||

#6  >Velveeta is to cheese as Spam is to ham.

From viewing pictures of this alleged cheese that looks to be true.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 01/09/2014 11:13 Comments || Top||

#7  As long as Cheez Whiz supplies are okay there's nothing to worry about.
Posted by: AlanC || 01/09/2014 11:31 Comments || Top||

#8  ...AlanC is correct...not having to cut said cheese will save much trouble...
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 01/09/2014 11:42 Comments || Top||

#9  I thought the Obama White House was the strategic cheese reserve.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 01/09/2014 11:45 Comments || Top||

#10  I've heard that in Hawaii they keep warehouses full of SPAM just to make sure they never get into this kind of situation.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 01/09/2014 11:46 Comments || Top||

#11  ..AlanC is correct...not having to cut said cheese will save much trouble...

Ok. Who cut the cheese? Or should that be who moved my cheese?

(this thread is getting rather cheesy...)
Posted by: CrazyFool || 01/09/2014 11:56 Comments || Top||

#12  (this thread is getting rather cheesy...)

That's right, y'all cheddar knock it off before it gets silly.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/09/2014 12:06 Comments || Top||

#13  :...If you like your Velveeta, you can keep your Velveeta..."
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 01/09/2014 12:17 Comments || Top||

#14  From viewing pictures of this alleged cheese that looks to be true.

Velveeta is to cheese as Vegemite is to Marmite.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 01/09/2014 12:45 Comments || Top||

#15  Perhaps this is whey off base, but -

Smoothness and melt ability are promoted as its properties that result by reincorporating the whey with the curd.

So I suppose one curd argue it's Miss Muffet food.
Posted by: Bobby || 01/09/2014 13:08 Comments || Top||

#16  If you mix Swiss cheese with guacamole do yyou get Holy Mole?
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 01/09/2014 14:49 Comments || Top||

#17  well, we know it wasn't a shelf-life thang
Posted by: Frank G || 01/09/2014 15:21 Comments || Top||

#18  Velveeta looks like the dried end I cut off the cheddar when the plastic wrap slipped off in the fridge.

Come to Wisconsin and we'll treat you to cheese curds so fresh, they squeak when you bite into them.

Posted by: mom || 01/09/2014 15:25 Comments || Top||

#19  I long to go to the fall farmer's market on the capital square in Madison.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 16:20 Comments || Top||

#20  Mom - do you mean what we called 'squeaky cheese' here in Washington State. Used to live in Mt. Vernon close to the Cascade Cheese Factory there (some time ago). Stop by every once in a while and get some squeaky cheese.

Of course I'm sure Wisconsin has much more and bigger.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 01/09/2014 17:44 Comments || Top||

#21  And you can also get really good squeaky cheese in Tillamook Oregon, AND they have a pretty good Warbirds museum about a half mile south in one of the last WWII blimp hangars.
Go for the birds, stay for the curds.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 01/09/2014 21:15 Comments || Top||

#22  #16 Deacon - go to your room.

Now.
Posted by: Barbara || 01/09/2014 21:39 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
EPA overrides Congress, hands over town to Indian tribes
[Daily Caller] Have you heard the story of the residents of Riverton, Wyo.? One day they were Wyomingans, the next they were members of the Wind River tribes -- after the Environmental Protection Agency declared the town part of the Wind River Indian Reservation, undoing a 1905 law passed by Congress
Oh, but that was a long time ago. We were all so much younger then.
and angering state officials.

The surprise decision was made by officials of the EPA, the Department of Interior, and Department of Justice early last month, and has invoked the ire of Gov. Matt Mead, who has vowed not to honor the agency's decision and is preparing to fight in court.

"My deep concern is about an administrative agency of the federal government altering a state's boundary and going against over 100 years of history and law," Mead said in a statement. "This should be a concern to all citizens because, if the EPA can unilaterally take land away from a state, where will it stop?"
States are history, get over it. FEMA regions are the future.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I guess each agency can do what it wants now. Obama has no control over anything. NSA, IRS, EPA are a law unto themselves. Like congress, 100-200 years mean nothing. As with congress. congress can make the laws and congress can change the laws.
Posted by: Dale || 01/09/2014 8:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Can't wait till they try to turn over some southern Texas counties to Mexico.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/09/2014 8:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Friday through Monday, free airport shuttle and hotel comps for Gov't EPA employees. Kids eat free.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 9:37 Comments || Top||

#4  The EPA needs to be utterly destroyed and the ground where it's offices are located salted so nothing would ever, ever, ever, even think to grow there again.

So much for the rule of law. Now we have an Imperial Emperor and his Imperial Court of Czars, Robed Princes of the Realm on the Supreme Court, and little lords and lordlings in the various departments each declaring their little edicts and rules...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 01/09/2014 11:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Give everything back to the Indians; they had it first, so it's only fair - and we all want fairness. Start with Manhattan Island.
Posted by: Glenmore || 01/09/2014 11:15 Comments || Top||

#6  Just a sec, since when Native American affairs are in EPA's job description?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/09/2014 11:29 Comments || Top||

#7  Just a sec, since when Native American affairs are in EPA's job description?

Well they do exhale that deadly pollutant CO2 don't they?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 01/09/2014 11:52 Comments || Top||

#8  Have the EPA officials arrested for treason against the state of Wyoming, have a trial, convict them, then execute them. It'd send a strong message about states rights and put some proper fear into these vermin.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 01/09/2014 12:12 Comments || Top||

#9  Sooo....Riverton is exempt from Obamacare now?

Con I haz epa check my cheekbones?

Well they do exhale that deadly pollutant CO2 don't they?
Only the white man, not human beings. Took Little Big Man as a case study of American History, not an prog's Princess Bride.

Just out of curiousity, anywhere near where Magpul is setting up shop?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/09/2014 12:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Be it resolved, the USA is hereby dissolved. Please deposit your citizenship papers in bins provided, which are located by the exits. In a few weeks, you will be contacted by your district gauleiter who will provide you with new identification documents (you must retain these documents on your person at all times) and also explain your new duties as a worker in good standing.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 01/09/2014 13:08 Comments || Top||

#11  Powers of representatives

Representatives generally do not hold the power to select other representatives, presidents, or other officers of government (indirect representation). These representatives are elected by the public directly by organizing elections . (Not any more in of all places, the United States of America)
Posted by: Omavising Ebbemp9815 || 01/09/2014 17:35 Comments || Top||

#12  So, we're closer to lock and load time? Tick Tock.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man || 01/09/2014 20:38 Comments || Top||


Britain
Air Force identifies 4 airmen killed in (UK) Pave Hawk crash
BP Note: Norfolk is NOT a town, Norwich is the nearest town.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 01/09/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Woman convicted for wearing burqa in France
[DAWN] A French court Wednesday convicted a young woman for wearing a full-face Islamic veil in public and threw out her bid to have the country's controversial burqa ban declared unconstitutional.

Cassandra Belin, 20, was also convicted for insulting and threatening three coppers at the time of her arrest, which sparked two days of rioting in the town of Trappes, near Gay Paree, in July, 2013.

She was given a one-month suspended prison sentence for the clash with the police and a 150-euro ($200) fine for wearing the veil.

Her lawyers, who argued that the burqa ban impinges on religious freedom and unfairly target Moslems, had asked for an emergency ruling on the constitutionality of the ban before sentencing.

But that request was rejected on the grounds that the Constitutional Council had previously upheld the 2011 law.
Posted by: Fred || 01/09/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Grab your weapons, citizens!
Form your batallions!
Let us march! Let us march!
May impure blood
Water our fields!
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 3:07 Comments || Top||

#2  A few more percentage points needed. Continue with breeding, success is assured shortly.
Posted by: KBK || 01/09/2014 8:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Belin's lawyer, Philippe Bataille, said he would consider an appeal and pledged to continue to fight to have the ban overturned. “I'm not throwing in the towel,” he said.

After all, Her money's not used up yet.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 01/09/2014 9:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Cassandra Belin, 20

I'm guessing leftard, not muzzi.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/09/2014 11:24 Comments || Top||

#5  He's not throwing in the towel, he's wrapping it around his head.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 01/09/2014 11:52 Comments || Top||

#6  Let's begin by establishing distinctions:

-TRhere is the traditional Mulim ie the one who was indoctrinated duriung his childhood and continues to be a Muslim a a habit.

-Then there is the person who converted to Islam.

-And then there is the post 9/11 convert to Islam. Like this woman. Nuff said.

Oh by the way, one day I heard a Muslim woman calling her son, a son who was obviouly boirn well after 9/11. She told "Ossama, come here!". Nuff said about her too.

ROPMA.
Posted by: JFM || 01/09/2014 12:25 Comments || Top||


Spain Arrests Eight Linked to ETA Prisoners
[An Nahar] Spanish police Wednesday enjugged
Yez got nuttin' on me, coppers! Nuttin'!
eight members of a group supporting prisoners from the armed Basque separatist group ETA
ETA or Euskadi Ta Askatasuna (English: Basque Homeland and Freedom) is an armed Basque nationalist and separatist organization that has been around since 1959. It demands independence from Spain and France for the Greater Basque Country. The group is proscribed as a terrorist organization by most civilized countries. More than 700 members of the organization are incarcerated in prisons in Spain, La Belle France, and other countries, though members do seem to find ready hospitality in Venezuela.
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The multiple raids in northern Spain were the latest in a series of blows against ETA, blamed for the deaths of 829 people in a four-decade campaign of shootings and bombings for an independent Basque homeland in northern Spain and southwestern La Belle France

"The tentacle that allowed ETA to control prisoners has been broken up," Interior Minister Jorge Fernandez Diaz told news hounds.

"It is one more step in the battle for the definitive dissolution of ETA," he said.

An interior ministry official said eight people detained in all in police raids in the Basque Country and Navarre, northern Spain, but declined to give further details.

Among those detained was Arantza Zulueta, a lawyer representing various ETA prisoners.

The arrests came two weeks after ETA prisoners said they were prepared to drop their insistence on a general amnesty and instead seek their release through legal channels.

The softening of the prisoners' demands appeared to be an attempt to engage the Spanish and French governments, both of which refuse to negotiate with ETA, designated a terrorist group by the European Union
...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing...
and the United States.

Freed ETA convicts on Saturday called for all their incarcerated
Maw! They're comin' to get me, Maw!
comrades to be released, in a gathering that enraged victims' families.

The gang has been weakened in recent years by the arrests of its big shots in Spain and La Belle France, whose security forces cooperate closely in fighting the band.
Posted by: Fred || 01/09/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


The Grand Turk
Turkey sacks more cops as graft scandal deepens
[Bangla New Age] The Turkish government fired 16 provincial police chiefs in a new mass purge Wednesday as a corruption scandal rocking prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan
... Turkey's version of Mohammed Morsi only they haven't dumped him yet...
deepened.

Among those dismissed were police from several big cities and provinces including Ankara, Izmir, Antalya and Diyarbakir as well as the deputy head of national security, under a decree signed by the interior minister, Efkan Ala.

The latest purge comes just a day after the government fired 350 coppers in the capital Ankara -- bringing the total number sacked to over 700 since mid-December when the graft scandal broke, according to local media tallies.

Media reports Tuesday also said another 25 people had been jugged
Book 'im, Mahmoud!
on suspicion of bribery and fraud in the widening corruption probe that has targeted several key Erdogan allies.

The turmoil has rocked Erdogan's government to its very core just weeks before crucial local elections in March and has sent Turkish financial markets tumbling.

But the government vowed Wednesday it would overcome the crisis.

'The government is in charge. We will never let the political and economic stability of Turkey be disturbed. We will do our best to prevent this,' deputy prime minister Ali Babacan told private Haberturk television.

Battling to contain the biggest threat to his 11 years in power, Erdogan has branded the investigation a 'dirty' plot to try to topple his Islamic-rooted government.

He and his allies have blamed supporters of a powerful Moslem holy man who lives in self-imposed exile in the United States but wields considerable influence in Turkey's judiciary and police.

'It is an attempt to shatter our self-confidence. The attack is not directed against our government, but against Turkey,' foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Tuesday.

'It is an attempt to create a perception that the entire government is embroiled in massive corruption and that Turkey is passing through a great depression,' he told NTV television.

The crisis erupted in December when dozens of leading businessmen and political figures -- including the sons of three ministers -- were rounded up in police raids in Istanbul and Ankara.

Erdogan was forced into a major cabinet reshuffle after the three ministers concerned resigned and the government has since gone on the offensive to root out foes in the police and judiciary.

Erdogan's critics accuse him of desperately trying to protect cronies caught up in the investigation which has focused on alleged bribery in construction projects and illicit money transfers by a state-owned bank to sanctions-hit Iran.

In a new twist to the increasingly complex powerplay, the country's top judicial body the Supreme Board of Judges and Prosecutors (HSYK) said Tuesday it would investigate allegations that the new Istanbul police chief was blocking prosecutors from carrying out further arrests, as well as alleged misconduct by prosecutors.

Erdogan has vowed to battle what he terms 'a state within a state' -- an apparent reference to followers of influential Turkish holy man Fethullah Gulen.
Posted by: Fred || 01/09/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  interesting. Apparenty Yippy thinks that he can't be arrested if there's no cops
Posted by: Frank G || 01/09/2014 15:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Arrested? I think something more interesting is coming his way.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man || 01/09/2014 20:40 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Devyani wants freedom to return to US but MEA has other plans for plea deal
[India Express] Even as India stepped up pressure on the United States by ordering the closure of some facilities at its embassy in Delhi in connection with the alleged visa fraud case against its New York-based diplomat Devyani Khobragade, differences have cropped up between the IFS officer and the Ministry of External Affairs over the plea bargain offer from US Attorney Preet Bharara.

US authorities, predicated on Khobragade pleading guilty in the case, are willing to waive her prison term while recognising it as a criminal offence, it is learnt.

Khobragade was open to taking this discussion further with just one condition -- an assurance that any criminal record from the case will not impede her from entering the US in the future, be it in obtaining a visa or related law-enforcement issues, as she is married to a US national.

The MEA, however, put its foot down, saying the government could not accept any deal which will frame this case as a criminal offence as that could hurt similar cases besides complicating matters for those currently posted in the US.

The starting point for any legal deal, sources said, was to convert this case into a civil offence confined to the alleged underpayment of wages to Khobragade's maid Sangeeta Richard. All previous cases involving Indian diplomats and their domestic helps in the US have been civil offences.

But if that is done, the US would suffer some loss of face as Khobragade had been tossed in the slammer
Keep yer hands where we can see 'em, if yez please!
on trafficking charges and those were the grounds on which Richard's family was moved out of Delhi by the US embassy.

For the government, it's learnt, facilitating Khobragade's unimpeded re-entry into the US is not a priority as much as ensuring she gets diplomatic accreditation (G-1 visa) from the US state department following her transfer to the United Nations
...a lucrative dumping ground for the relatives of dictators and party hacks...
. Once that is done, the government may even move her out of the US after some time.
Posted by: Fred || 01/09/2014 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Science & Technology
Chicago Needs $18B and 25 Years to Stop Invasive Species
Blocking Asian carp from invading the Great Lakes could require an engineering marvel that rivals the reversal of the Chicago River more than a century ago, according to a new federal study.

Among the options outlined Monday by the Army Corps of Engineers to thwart the voracious fish from spreading is permanently separating Lake Michigan from the river and its connected waterways. Such a project would restore the once natural divide between the Great Lakes and rivers southwest of Chicago that drain into the Mississippi River.
I like restoring the natural way of things, if you've got the money. Especially considering the natural divide was eliminated so Chicago sewage would flow to St. Louis instead of the Lake, which was/is the source of the City's drinking water.
Chicago blasted through that hydrological barrier when it dug the Sanitary and Ship Canal and Cal-Sag Channel at the turn of the last century to divert the region's sewage away from its source of drinking water. It also created a shipping link between two of the nation's major trade routes.
St. Louis, Memphis, Vicksburg, and New Orleans (and many others) got the poopy end of that deal.
Get. Present tense.
Two years in the making, the study comes amid a series of alarming findings that raise the possibility it might be too late for new federal action to stop Asian carp from getting into the Great Lakes and threatening the region's $7 billion fishing industry.
Hmmm... $7 billion income divided into $25 billion cost... factor in union jobs, and the presidential legacy...
Don't forget the envelopes filled with unmarked bills for all the pols...
For many who have followed the issue closely, the findings confirmed their worst fears about Asian carp, which were imported to the United States in the 1970s to help fish farmers in the South clean algae from their ponds. The fish escaped during floods and have been eating their way up the Mississippi and Ohio rivers for years. Spawning populations are as close as 40 miles from where the Sanitary and Ship Canal spills into the Des Plaines River and flows into the Illinois River.
Maybe the current freezing cycle of man-made global warming/climate change will stop the bad fishies. The upper end of the Great Lakes can get a bit nippy in the winter.
With the Corps scheduling a series of public hearings around the region, the long-simmering and still-unresolved debate likely makes it more difficult for Congress to reach a consensus about what to do next.
Took a lot of nerve for the reporter to mention Congress and consensus in the same sentence.
It's easy to solve this problem, as the Instapundit has noted before: find a way to make the carp tasty. Market forces will solve the problem to the point that the EPA will eventually have to declare the carp an endangered species.
Posted by: Bobby || 01/09/2014 11:16 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  (Scream) "IT MIGHT BE TOO LATE", so throw money at it, until we run out of your cash..

They're only fish we brought to America as ballast in ship's hulls, SO IT'S NOT "OUR" FAULT, YOU TAKE CARE OF IT.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 01/09/2014 11:47 Comments || Top||

#2  ...rebrand them as "Northern Illinois Whitefish" and Mickey D's, etc. might find a use for 'em...
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 01/09/2014 11:53 Comments || Top||

#3  The fish escaped during floods and have been eating their way up the Mississippi and Ohio rivers for years.

Nobody at the time considered the possibility that might happen, huh?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 01/09/2014 11:55 Comments || Top||

#4  "It seemed like a good idea at the time..."
Posted by: Pappy || 01/09/2014 12:04 Comments || Top||

#5  The fish and game commission could just let the Chinese community and Chinatown fish for carp without limits! Seriously...
Posted by: 3dc || 01/09/2014 12:10 Comments || Top||

#6  They will not let Chinatown restaurants use the carp from the river. Instead they need to import it from fricking China. Another case where two by fours need to be used on government workers brains.
Posted by: 3dc || 01/09/2014 12:11 Comments || Top||

#7  Chicago Needs $18B and 25 Years to Stop Invasive Species

He and his angry wife have already moved to D.C.
Problem solved.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 12:17 Comments || Top||

#8  Some thoughts on invasive species and conservation in general:

- 99.999% of everything that has ever lived on this planet is now extinct.

- Everything alive on the planet today will go extinct with the possible exception of humans and whatever we decide to take with us.

- Every species alive today was at one time invasive.

- The very concept of conservation, keeping things the way they are right now, is diametrically opposed to the natural order.

This is not an argument for slaughtering the pandas. It is instead an acknowledgement of the reality that something which only eats bamboo might be cute but won't make it in the long run unless humans decide to intentionally thwart mother nature.
Posted by: Iblis || 01/09/2014 12:34 Comments || Top||

#9  Apparently there are many types of Asian Carp, they're kinda easy to catch
and it seems as if they are really good to eat.
What is the problem?
Seine, freeze and ship to Japan to save the whales!
Posted by: Skidmark || 01/09/2014 12:56 Comments || Top||

#10  So... nice ecosystem you have in da Lakes... be a Real Shame if something happened to it.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 01/09/2014 13:01 Comments || Top||

#11  Fishes is your friends! Sometimes you just have to wade in and take matters into your own hands.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 13:14 Comments || Top||

#12  In the first week of December, 2009, the Army Corps made plans to shut down one of the electric barriers for maintenance, and the Illinois Department of Natural Resources responded by dumping 2,200 gallons of the toxin rotenone into the canal. Rotenone, the report said, is deadly for fish, but not harmful to humans, animals or most other aquatic life. While "scores" of fish were killed, only one carp was found, nearly six miles below the electronic barriers.[34] The fish kill cost $3 million and produced 90 tons of dead fish.

Seems like some agencies have entirely too many resources available. What did it cost to clean up 90 tons of dead fish? Your tax dollars at work!

Apparently, the big fear (Wikipedia) is if these guys get to Lake Erie, they'd take over. Maybe Detroit could eat 'em all up first.
Posted by: Bobby || 01/09/2014 13:26 Comments || Top||

#13  Chicago Needs $18B and 25 Years to prevent evolution from occurringStop Invasive Species
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 01/09/2014 13:43 Comments || Top||

#14  While "scores" of fish were killed, only one carp was found, nearly six miles below the electronic barriers.[34] The fish kill cost $3 million and produced 90 tons of dead fish.

1.4 other fish have signed up to die.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 13:45 Comments || Top||

#15  While "scores" of fish were killed, only one carp was found, nearly six miles below the electronic barriers.[34] The fish kill cost $3 million and produced 90 tons of dead fish.

1.4 million other fish have signed up to die.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/09/2014 13:46 Comments || Top||

#16  A video showed a commercial fisherman in about a 22 foot low side boat pull in 28.000lb + carp in a KY lake in two days. This is a disaster waiting to happen and must be addressed before the carp get to the Great Lakes. Much worse than the Lamprey Eel.

Although, I understand people like The Champ really like to eat carp and that could be the solution. This could be The Champs signature accomplishment during his administration.
Posted by: Thrusomble White6103 || 01/09/2014 14:21 Comments || Top||

#17  Yeah, I remember the Lamprey Eel. It was well before the Y2K bug, but just as bad! Did they take over the Great Lakes?
Posted by: Bobby || 01/09/2014 14:58 Comments || Top||

#18  Unleash...The Dream Catcher!

Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/09/2014 15:06 Comments || Top||

#19  Chicago Needs $18B to shore up their finances and Invasive Species species are going to get the blame for the cost and 25 years is long enough theat people will forget.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 01/09/2014 15:17 Comments || Top||

#20  #15 - 1.4 million other fish have signed up to die.
Posted by: Besoeker 2014-01-09 13:46


...Obamacare(TM) for fishies..?
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 01/09/2014 16:01 Comments || Top||

#21  This country used to could handle a 10 billion unit pigeon problem in 80 years, now we can't handle some damn fish? WTF?
Posted by: Shipman || 01/09/2014 16:14 Comments || Top||

#22  They're Asian Fish, Shipman. They're smarter and tougher than native fish. Their GPA is higher.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 01/09/2014 18:15 Comments || Top||

#23  Yeah bit 20 minutes after you eat one your hungry again.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 01/09/2014 18:36 Comments || Top||

#24  Mass harvest, wood chipper, compost, = fertilizer for farms nearby.
Posted by: OldSpook || 01/09/2014 19:36 Comments || Top||

#25  If there is GIVERnment money to be had by the unions then there will be an Asian fish farm in the Chicago area very soon. This fish eradication program will grow larger and larger and the fish will never go away.
Posted by: Airandee || 01/09/2014 20:58 Comments || Top||

#26  They're smarter and tougher than native fish. Their GPA is higher.
In fact, recently a fisherman lost his billfold and when he found it, these fish were passing it around; might say they had carp-to-carp walleting....
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 01/09/2014 21:21 Comments || Top||

#27  Groan
Posted by: KBK || 01/09/2014 23:17 Comments || Top||

#28  Pappy!
Posted by: gorb || 01/09/2014 23:45 Comments || Top||


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Latest fatwa from Iran: No online chatting between sexes
[FOXNEWS] The latest religious edict from Iran's supreme leader takes aim at the Islamic Theocratic Republic's lonely hearts.

Online chatting between men and women on social networks is forbidden under Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's latest fatwa, delivered ironically enough on his website in answer to a question sent by email. The top mullah's reasoning is that such contact could eventually lead to activities prohibited by Islam.

"Given the immorality that often applies to this, it is not permitted," Khamenei wrote.
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Khamenei often delivers fatwas on his website, but the latest one could further expose the spiritual and generational rift between the nation's web-savvy youth and the hardline religious leaders. Iranians contacted by FoxNews.com, who all declined to be identified by their full names, said the declaration is the latest effort to stop people from talking and sharing.
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#1  Khamenei often delivers fatwas on his website

Rather amusing that someone determined to live in the 7th century has a website.
Posted by: SteveS || 01/09/2014 1:52 Comments || Top||



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