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Africa Horn
Ethiopia: We were not tortured, foreign prisoners confess
(SomaliNet) Ethiopia’s State-run Ethiopian News Agency (ENA) has reported that foreign terrorism suspects held in Ethiopia are being treated well, the country's official media reported on Wednesday. It quoted some of the prisoners as saying that the government had provided them with basic needs and medical attention since they were brought to the country.

"Suspected international terrorists who are under custody in Ethiopia said they have not been subjected to torture or any form of violation of human rights," ENA said in its website, where it published a picture of eight of the detainees, some of them dressed in tracksuits and smiling.

I do appreciate everything. The treatment here is very good. Ethiopians are very sociable and they respect human rights," ENA quoted Muhibitabo Clement Ibrahim, a Rwandan suspect, as saying.

The claims came two days after Ethiopian government said it was holding 41 terrorism suspects of 17 nationalities arrested in Somalia, whose transitional Addis Ababa-backed government is battling Islamist insurgents and clan militia some suspected of links to terror groups.

The New York-based group Human Rights Watch has accused Ethiopia of running a covert programme detaining foreign Islamists, with support from Kenya, the United States and Somalia's transitional government.
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "We were not tortued, foreign prsioners confess"


"Confess you have not been tortured! dog!"

"Ouch, ouch, ouch. I confess but stop that, pleaese, Aaaah!"

Seriously, until Islamists enforce Geneva Conventions and Human Rights Cahrt I couldn't care less about what happens to them when captured.
Posted by: JFM || 04/13/2007 5:53 Comments || Top||

#2  ...except Swedish pregnant teenagers.......
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 04/13/2007 13:54 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
N Korea won’t give up nuclear programme
SEOUL - North Korea is unlikely to honour a multinational agreement on giving up its nuclear programme, a former senior US official predicted Friday. ‘They’ll delay and they’ll make small moves toward denuclearisation, but nothing irreversible,’ Richard Armitage, a former deputy secretary of state under President George W. Bush, told a forum in South Korea.
Much as I dislike Armitage for his role in the Plame affair, leaving the President and VP out to dry for a year and a half, his analysis here is both appropriate and cynical. The NKors won't give up their nukes, and it's that simple.
Under the February 13 agreement, the North pledged to disable all nuclear programmes in exchange for one million tons of fuel oil or equivalent aid and diplomatic benefits. As a first step, it was supposed to have completed the shutdown and sealing of the Yongbyon reactor and to have invited International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors back into the country by April 14.

But it has refused to move until it recovers 25 million dollars which had been frozen in a Macau bank at US instigation. US officials say the funds have now been unblocked but there has been no response from the North.

‘North Korea will not live up to their date of stopping activities by (Saturday). They will use the excuse that they haven’t actually gone to Macau to pick up their money yet,’ Armitage was quoted by Yonhap news agency as saying.

Armitage, who left the State Department in 2005, said the North would ‘try to get as much assistance from the United States and the international community as possible’ while delaying denuclearisation. ‘They are playing a very good game,’ he said, adding that the North will keep trying to exploit what it sees as US concessions. ‘There is a danger that the United States will be a little hungry for an agreement,’ he said. ‘My government is under such attack generally in the United States and has not many great successes recently in the international community.’

Armitage said the Bush administration may be tempted into a settlement ‘short of our goals’ before next year’s presidential election. ‘As we get close to our election, it becomes more difficult for the administration to be very flexible on their approach to North Korea,’ he said. ‘At the end of the day, it’s very unlikely that (North Korea) will really give up their nuclear weapon.’
Posted by: Steve White || 04/13/2007 00:50 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  CHOSUN ILBO News > Declassified 1993 US document > THOUSANDS OF SOUTH KOREAN KOREAN WAR POWS SENT TO RUSSIA - SECRETLY, via Inter-Koreas-China-UUSR RAILROAD, etc. points. Up to 12,000 SK POWS allegedly sent into Russian Far East for various civil-transportation heavy construx projects, where suffered a "high mortality rate".
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/13/2007 2:32 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm shocked.
Posted by: gorb || 04/13/2007 3:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Surprise meter?
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/13/2007 4:13 Comments || Top||

#4  It's tired from overwork and took a vacation.
Posted by: gorb || 04/13/2007 4:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Armitage is a Grade A Asshole. There is nothing he has to say that would interest me.
Posted by: Captain America || 04/13/2007 7:02 Comments || Top||

#6  They will use the excuse that they haven’t actually gone to Macau to pick up their money yet

So pile it all up in front of First Macau and start burning it on CNN. See how fast he sends sonny boy over to pick it up then...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/13/2007 11:38 Comments || Top||

#7  I guess extortion is not against "International Law" huh?
Posted by: AlanC || 04/13/2007 16:31 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Zero tolerance for 'terror' books
BOOKS and DVDs glorifying terrorist acts will be pulled from the shelves and prevented from entering the country under new federal laws to be unveiled today. Attorney-General Philip Ruddock has declared a "zero-tolerance approach" to material that "advocates" terrorism.

Under the existing Classification Act, material can only be removed from sale if it is deemed likely to "promote, incite or instruct in matters of crime or violence". But the amended law - to be discussed at a meeting between Mr Ruddock and the state attorneys-general in Canberra today - makes it an offence to circulate material that "advocates" a terrorist act. Imported material published outside Australia will be stopped at Customs if it is found to glorify, praise or encourage acts of terrorism.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/13/2007 08:09 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Does this mean they're going to pull the Koran off the shelves?
Posted by: The Doctor || 04/13/2007 8:45 Comments || Top||

#2  No, Hansel and Gretel for shoving the old lady into the oven.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 04/13/2007 9:35 Comments || Top||

#3  From the source article:

An example of material that could be banned under the law are the Death Series DVDs released by Sydney firebrand cleric Sheik Feiz Mohammed, in which he called for Muslim children to be recruited as "holy warriors".
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/13/2007 12:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Dunno, as much as i like the idea at first glance, what may be 'terrorism' to one may not be to others. Think Farenheit 451.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 04/13/2007 13:56 Comments || Top||

#5  I'd rather they went after the people who are writing these books or preaching jihad in Saudi financed mosques. Old Danish saying:

"Go to the horse's head, not its tail."
Posted by: Zenster || 04/13/2007 15:20 Comments || Top||


Somali youth in Australia recruited for jihad
Young Somali refugees in Melbourne are being seduced by Muslim extremists, a Somali community leader has warned.

Herse Hilole, a Sydney community leader and Islamic scholar, fears the recruits could be used in terrorism attacks in Australia. He said some Somalis were being influenced by radical Lebanese from a hardline Wahhabi group.

Dr Hilole will give a speech to the Melbourne Somali community tonight, marking the birthday of the Prophet Muhammad. In his speech, he says some Somalis have returned to Somalia from Melbourne and Sydney to join Islamic jihad and some have been killed.

He told The Age extremists from Somalia visited last year to gather money and support and that one of their most important allies was the Somali mosque in North Melbourne. Leaders at the mosque declined to speak to The Age but worshippers say the mosque, in Racecourse Road, is a community centre. Victorian Somali Social Club president Osman Ali said 10 to 20 Somalis had returned to fight, but as much for tribal and nationalist reasons as religious.

Other Melbourne Somali leaders denied that Australian Somalis were engaged in jihad, in Somalia or Australia. Sheikh Isse Musse of the Werribee Islamic Centre said he would know if anyone went to fight, and Somali Council of Australia president Salaad Ali Ibrahim said the claims were misleading. Mr Ibrahim said most Australian Somalis — more than 10,000 — lived in Melbourne. There was no danger from them, he said. "I work with the Victorian police very closely and ASIO, and would be the first person to put his hand up if there are people wanting to do that kind of thing."

An Australian Federal Police spokesman said he could not discuss investigations in Australia, but the force was investigating the alleged death of an Australian man in Somalia.

Dr Hilole says in his speech that Islamist extremists are using terrorist tactics in Somalia, trying to create an insurgency similar to Iraq, and have found many supporters in Australia. "We know that some people left Australia to join the jihad of the Islamic Courts and have even been killed. We know there are supporters in Australia who want to recruit young Somalis to go back or support financially the Islamic Courts," he says. "The community must be made aware of this and we must put a stop to it." He adds: "Somalis who take up Australian citizenship should know that they are now committed to obeying Australian law … Under Australian law it is forbidden to join jihad in any other country or join any war that is against the interest of Australia."

Dr Hilole told The Age that Muslim extremists fell into two groups in Australia: those promoting political Islam, such as Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali, and those who supported jihad, such as Salafis (ultra-conservatives), who controlled some mosques and schools.

He said Somalis who supported the Islamic Courts movement, and there were many, did not want to integrate with Australian society. "There was a group in Melbourne affiliated with al-Ittihad (the Islamic Courts) under the name al-Ansar, which was closed several times by Australian intelligence and security agencies. Now they are hiding in the community."
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Sheik Hilaly says he's more Aussie than the PM
Controversial Muslim cleric Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly has declared himself more Australian than Prime Minister John Howard. Speaking to The Australian newspaper from Perth Canberra Istanbul, the mufti also vowed to return to Sydney next week to weed out the "foxes" who had accused him of using donations raised by Australians to support proscribed terror groups in Lebanon, such as Hezbollah.

The Australian Federal Police is investigating $70,000 raised by the Sydney-based Lebanese Muslim Association (LMA) and handed out in Lebanon by Sheik al Hilali. LMA president Tom Zreika has said allegations have been made in the Muslim community that Sheik al Hilali gave some of the money to Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. "When I get back to Sydney, I will be asking how this money was accounted for," Sheik al Hilali told the newspaper. "I get accused in the media of spending the money, but at the end of the day I don't know how the money was spent. I was just writing down the names on a piece of paper."

Sheik Al Hilali said his widely criticised remarks supporting the hardline Iranian regime were meant to encourage world peace. Both the government and opposition called for the sheik to be sacked and to leave the country after he called on Australian Muslims to back Iran's hardline regime. Sheik al Hilali told the newspaper he had spent 50 years promoting peace and accused the Prime Minister of running a dictatorship. "It's a disgrace for the leader of a democratic country to be picking on religious people, especially one who is practicing a form of dictatorship that could almost be Saddam Hussein-like," Sheik al Hilali said. "I respect Australian values more than he does. Australian people like peace and they like humanitarian welfare and they are attracted to just causes."
Posted by: Glinegum Glerelet8307 || 04/13/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sheik Hilaly says he's more Aussie than the PM

Yeah, and I'm more Viking than my Danish mother. Hilali can blow me.

the mufti also vowed to return to Sydney next week to weed out the "foxes" who had accused him of using donations raised by Australians to support proscribed terror groups in Lebanon, such as Hezbollah.

This should be rich. Let's see this maggot out-slime the local slime balls. No way could anyone pay enough for such a service. Only Muslims are capable of such self-defeatism.

Sheik al Hilali gave some of the money to Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah

Proceed straight to Hell. Do not pass GO, do not collect $200.00

Sheik Al Hilali said his widely criticised remarks supporting the hardline Iranian regime were meant to encourage world peace.

Yeah, and my predictions of a pending Muslim holocaust are meant to preserve a lasting global institution of Islamic religion. Go figure.

Sheik al Hilali told the newspaper he had spent 50 years promoting peace

Let his results speak for themselves.

"It's a disgrace for the leader of a democratic country to be picking on religious people ..."

Sure it is, unless you happen to be a genocidal Nazi wannabe who desires nothing more than killing all of the Jews.

I respect Australian values more than he does.

Go ahead and tell that to an Iraqi campaign digger veteran outside of a bar after the last shout. I'll be glad to help.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/13/2007 0:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Finally the press and the police are taking Hilaly for the 5th column threat he is.

He's been preaching hate and division and violent jihad for years before now
Posted by: anon1 || 04/13/2007 0:45 Comments || Top||

#3  to weed out the "foxes" who had accused him...

Yeah rabbits and sheep are so much easier to terrify.
Posted by: Jackal || 04/13/2007 0:54 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Lashkar-e-Taiba asks Kashmiri separatists to unite
A militant group on Thursday made a rare appeal to guerrillas and separatist politicians to work together on a joint council to help resolve the dispute over Kashmir. “We advise Hurriyat Conference, United Jihad Council and other pro-freedom parties to form a joint council to devise a future strategy,” the spokesman for Lashkar-e-Taiba told local newspapers. Hurriyat is the main political separatist alliance, but has split between moderates and hardliners. The United Jihad Council groups all major indigenous Kashmiri militant groups.

It is the first call by a militant force to set up such a council.

“Our sincere appeal to the divided Kashmiri leadership is to give up their differences and come under one roof. If they don’t get united at this crucial juncture, coming generations will never forgive them,” Abdullah Gaznavi said. He said Kashmiri leaders needed to realise their responsibilities and “not allow any solution to be imposed on the people of Kashmir”.

“Without the inclusion of Kashmiris, the Kashmir issue cannot be resolved,” he said and warned that his outfit “will carry on with fedayeen (suicide) attacks and other activities until India gives Kashmiris their right to self determination”.
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But if they're separatists, how can they unite? Then they'd be unionists, wouldn't they?
Posted by: Jackal || 04/13/2007 0:55 Comments || Top||


Jamia Hafsa crisis damaging madrassas' image: Fazl
Opposition leader in the National Assembly and Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl (JUIF) central leader Maulana Fazlur Rehman said on Thursday that Jamia Hafsa crisis was a drama by seminary students which would earn a bad name for ulema and all madrassas. Speaking at a meeting of the JUIF central committee at the Frontier House, Maulana Fazl said the MMA was in contact with all religious seminaries that he said were not involved in any anti-state or anti-Islamic activities. Fazlur Rehman said the MMA was not the name of just an alliance, “rather it is a platform for people to contest the next general elections and to give honest leadership to citizens.” The opposition leader said the MMA leadership was holding dialogues and negotiations at every forum to maintain peace and law and order situation in the Frontier province.
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  See also STRATEGYPAGE > INDIA-PAKISTAN:NOT A VERY TOLERANT PART OF THE WORLD, + CENTRAL ASIA: POLICE STATE LITE?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/13/2007 2:28 Comments || Top||


'Military approach can't stabilise Waziristan'
A military approach never brings durable peace, Pakistan embassy spokesman Akram Shaheedi wrote in a letter on the Wazirisitan situation, published by USA Today. The official wrote, “Pakistan stands committed to fight terrorism in all forms because doing so is in its own national interest. Indeed, during counterterrorism operations, Pakistan has done more and has also suffered more in terms of causalities of troops and civilians. Pakistan has killed and arrested more Taliban and Al Qaeda terrorists than any other country. Pakistan has deployed 80,000 troops in areas that are much smaller than Afghanistan.”

Shaheedi noted that there were only about 40,000 coalition forces in all of Afghanistan and that numerical limitation provided enough space for the Taliban to carry out its activities inside Afghanistan with a degree of impunity.
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Germany and Japan are pretty peaceful today. Of course, we haven't fire-bombed the major population centers of Wazoo. Maybe that's what we need.
Posted by: Jackal || 04/13/2007 0:57 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd think a single Trident D5 should do 'er...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 04/13/2007 2:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Personally, I'm waiting for the Age of Hyper-Enlightenment to pass.
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/13/2007 4:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Pakistan has killed and arrested more Taliban and Al Qaeda terrorists than any other country

Thats because you harbour these fanatics!!!!
Posted by: Paul || 04/13/2007 8:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Paul does have a point. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/13/2007 12:11 Comments || Top||


Pakistan fears infiltration of Taliban, Qaeda operatives

Afghan authorities are discouraging people from going through the biometric border control system at Chaman and this could encourage infiltration of Taliban and Al Qaeda operatives into Pakistan, the chairman of the National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) warned on Thursday.

Brig (r) Saleem Ahmed Moeen told a press conference here that the government had launched the biometric system at Chaman late last year to check illegal border crossings, but this would be difficult because of the “irresponsible attitude” of the Afghan side.

Moeen claimed that Afghan nationals were being instructed by government functionaries not to follow the system at the crossing points at the Pak-Afghan border. “The lack of seriousness from the Afghan side over this issue could encourage infiltration of Qaeda-backed terrorists into Pakistan,” he said.

In reply to a question, Moeen said that 24,000 nationals and traders from both sides daily passed through the biometric system. “Besides suspected figures, this system is aimed at keeping electronic records of people and traders who travel between Pakistan and Afghanistan to check unauthorised border crossings due to security reasons,” he said.

He hinted that the government would introduce more such systems along the Pak-Afghan border, particularly at Torkham. Moeen expressed displeasure at the non-implementation of a vehicle identification and monitoring system by government departments to track stolen vehicles. “Some key government agencies, including police, are creating hurdles in the way of this plan that could cut vehicle theft cases by 99 percent,” he said, adding that would take up this matter with President Gen Pervez Musharraf.

He said that stolen vehicles were commonly used in crime and NADRA was hoping the new system would dramatically curb crime. “We have developed a modern vehicle tracking system in Pakistan like the one installed at the Mexican border with the United States,” he said.

Moeen said that NADRA was likely to soon get a big contract for production of machine-readable passports from the Kenyan government. NADRA might also get contracts from African countries to develop a database of refugees for them.
Posted by: Fred || 04/13/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How do those settled in Pakistan infiltrate?
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/13/2007 12:12 Comments || Top||


Military action in FATA hurt govt: Orakzai
NWFP Governor Ali Jan Orakzai said on Thursday that military operations in the tribal areas had had “negative effects” on the government and that was why it had changed its approach. “Realising the negative outcome of the military campaign, the government decided to rethink its policy in the tribal areas and efforts in this regard culminated in the historic Waziristan agreement that was followed by agreements in South Waziristan and Bajaur tribal agencies,” he told a donors conference on a nine-year sustainable development programme for FATA. Four years ago, Orakzai said, the government had to launch a military campaign to deal with militants and foreigners in the tribal areas and a number of military operations were carried out in the North and South Waziristan regions.
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Indian Government soft on Maoists reveals paper
Startling revelations were made by a Calcutta based daily 'The Telegraph' regarding the Central Government's "soft posture" with respect to tackling critical internal security challenge of Maoism in India.

A report indicates a top-level intervention as the root cause of the abandonment of a tough Anti-Maoism policy.

A section of the home ministry officials, advocating a tough line against "overground" sympathisers of Naxalites, raised the pitch after arming itself with a report on a seminar held in January on the campus of a university in Delhi. The report, drawn up by home ministry officials, said the tenor of the seminar was "pro-Naxalite". The participants, who included bureaucrats, academics and students, engaged themselves in "anti-state" discussions that seemed to justify armed uprising, it said.

By February, the officials behind the initiative had begun to discuss specific punitive measures that could be taken against the "sympathisers". Penalties put on the table included shunting officials to nondescript areas and cutting down retirement benefits. However, "intervention from the top" nipped the plan. A near-certain public furore and the ruling establishment's well-known eagerness to preserve its liberal credentials were the primary factors that forced the rethink, the sources said.

The past few years has seen the insurgents spreading Naxal influence from 76 districts in nine states to 118 Districts in 12 States. The Communist Party of India (Maoists) was formed on September 21, 2004 through the merger of two prominent naxalite outfits - the Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) People's War (PWG) and the Maoist Communists Center of India (MCCI).

The Research and Analysis Wing alleges that many Naxalites have tried to coordinate with international terrorist groups and organizations against India, such as the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, with whom they have engaged in weapons transactions. The president of the Bharatiya Janata Party, Rajnath Singh, alleges links between the Naxalites and the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence. The Naxalite party has been banned in Andhra Pradesh, a ban that they have protested. They have also been attacked by anti-Naxalite paramilitary groups.

The Naxalites intensified their insurgency in 2007 and are now active in half of India's states, mostly in rural areas, in an attempt to encourage a peasant revolt in response to a government plan to expropriate large tracts of peasant land in eastern India in order to create special economic zones to attract industry.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has said the Naxalites pose the biggest internal security threat to India since Independence, yet his very Government is going soft on Maoism at the expense of our brave soldiers who're dying in battle.
Posted by: John Frum || 04/13/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq
Turkish army seeks OK to strike Kurds inside Iraq
Turkey's military asked the government Thursday to approve attacks on Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq, signaling growing frustration over a lack of action against the guerrillas by Iraqi and U.S. forces. The military says up to 3,800 rebels are based just across the border in Iraq and that up to 2,300 operate inside Turkey. A recent surge in Kurdish attacks in southeastern Turkey has increased the pressure on Turkey's military to act.

Gen. Yasar Buyukanit aid the military already has launched operations against separatists in Turkey's predominantly Kurdish southeastern region bordering Iraq. "Our aim is to prevent them from taking positions in the region with the coming of spring," he said, adding the rebels generally intensify attacks as melting snow opens the mountain passes. Recent clashes have killed 10 soldiers and 29 Kurdish guerrillas.

Massoud Barzani, leader of the Kurdish autonomous region in Iraq, said recently that Iraqi Kurds would retaliate for any Turkish interference in northern Iraq by stirring up trouble in Turkey's southeast.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/13/2007 08:02 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought DEBKA already approved it.
Posted by: GK || 04/13/2007 12:20 Comments || Top||

#2  You had your chance for cooperation in 2003 Johnny Turk. Heck, I would have given you all of the ottoman Empire back (minus Israel) if you'd have acted civilized. But now you can pound sand.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 04/13/2007 14:12 Comments || Top||

#3  A little word first my Turkish friends.

Remember the 4th Infantry division sitting off your coast?

Remember its destination, Anbar province?

Remember how we needed you to let us through to support the major flanking movement, and seal the retreats of the Baathist so they couldnt flee into Syria?

Remember how the 4th ID cut thru to Ramadi, sealed central Iraq, beat down the baathist resistance and seized WMD's headed for the Bekka Valley - and because of that we were able to put the follow on brigades up north to pacify the PKK and help the Turkish troops that were part of the invasion - and were patrolling in Northern Iraq?

Oh thats right, that last thing never happened.

Which is why the tuskish force beling allowedinto Iraq will never happen. Set one foot across the border and we will deploy a ranger battalion there with orders to fix in place and call in JDAM strikes on *ANY* incursions from ANYONE into Iraq.

You send troops over and we will ensure the Iraqis return them to you - in body bags... shipped the long way around to that port you denied us.

And if you een look at us funny over this, I'm sure the Greeks would love to have some training and some F16C(block50's) delivered, wet, with ordnance, and a couple Perry frigates and an Aegis destroyer deployed within SAM range of you major air assets.

Posted by: OldSpook || 04/13/2007 21:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Turkey can get stuffed.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/13/2007 23:18 Comments || Top||


Continued Clashes in Iraq Between Sunni Jihad Groups and Al-Qaeda
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Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Analysis: Don't underestimate Syria's military
While the Knesset heard about potential scenarios for reaching peace with Damascus on Thursday, senior defense officials warned of an unprecedented military buildup in Syria and said that prevailing in a war with Israel's northeastern neighbor would not be as simple as some might have been led to believe.

Syria has emphasized missile development in recent months. According to Western sources, Syria has the ability to independently manufacture Scud missiles, and it has 300 of them deployed just north of the demilitarized zone in the Syrian part of the Golan Heights.

A division of some 10,000 troops is responsible for operating the missiles, which include an small number of Scud D's with a range of 700 kilometers and said to be capable of carrying nonconventional warheads. Syria has close to 30 launchers for its Scud missiles, according to foreign sources.

Syria keeps the projectiles in bunkers at several locations; most are in a valley near Hama, where it has built a giant freakin' target for the IAF missile electronic and assembly facility. Syria has a massive, yet incompetent and with aged Soviet technology and soldiers who are poorly trained military divided into 12 divisions and totaling close to 400,000 soldiers at full mobilization. One of the divisions is made up of 10,000 elite commandos, a formidable force that would serve as Syria's first line of dead soldiers in an offensive against the IDF.

"Syria saw the difficulty the IDF had during the fighting inside the southern Lebanese villages and now the military there wants to draw us - in the event of a war - into battles in built-up areas where they think they will have the upper hand, however, the RoE we used there is no longer in effect. In Syria, we are going to a new RoE called the "Sherman march to the Sea" combat rules" explained a source in the IDF Northern Command.

"Syria was impressed by Hizbullah's strategic success, with its use of small rockets and Israel's inability to neutralize them," Shapir said. "This is a weapon that is not traditionally used in conventional wars, but can be."
The solution is simple: Announce that if Syria launches these weapons with WMD, or into population centers (i.e. terror), then we will destroy all airports, aircraft, electricity distribution and generation, military bases, any factory over 10000sq ft, and the city of Damascus will be seized and sacked, where we will recover the head of the Jew known as John the Baptist. After that, we might get aggressive. Got it?
Both militaries have raised their level of alert along the border and while the IDF has increased its presence on the Golan Heights - mostly with troops who are training - the Syrians have also moved units as well as military infrastructure in range of 155mm fire closer to the border.

In satellite images broadcast this week on CBN News in the US, reporter Chris Mitchell revealed Syria's three major missile sites, showing just how good the vaunted Syrian Security is. One site - referred to as the "heart" of Syria's missile program - is in Hama, where a weapons factory is surrounded by more than 30 hardened concrete bunkers that house multiple launchers and missiles. In just minutes, experts said, these launchers could deliver more than a ton of nonconventional warheads anywhere in Israel.
And the corollary is: An IAF strike would reduce the entire valley and all of it's contents in ruins if there was an Israeli leader with any balls.
Another missile site near Homs contains a previously undisclosed chemical warhead facility where a drive-through building leads to a facility where warheads are installed on ballistic missiles.
These images do not necessarily indicate that Syria plans to attack Israel, but they do send a clear message to the IDF and the Israeli leadership: Target here! Do not underestimate us.
Posted by: Brett || 04/13/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hell no! They might crash and burn even better than Saddam's!!!
Posted by: Zenster || 04/13/2007 0:52 Comments || Top||

#2  ASIA TIMES > BACK DOOR TO DAMASCUS. Claims Dubya may had PDeniably used Nancy for discreet, politically highly sensitive diplomacy vv ASSAD + other politicos. OTOH, SAUDI ARABIA > Nancy's visit a test of future ALTERNATE PRESIDENCY???; +
WND.com > DEFECTOR - Radical Iran has URANIUM for nuke bombs, + Alabama City PREPPING LOCAL CIVIL DEFENSE FOR WMD-NUCLEAR TERROR.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/13/2007 2:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Whatever the situation, it's all thanks to Iran.
Posted by: gorb || 04/13/2007 3:55 Comments || Top||

#4  In short, Syria is preparing to wage a terrorist war writen large against Israeli civilians, while serenly confident thet Israel will (be forced to) stick to conventional rules of war.
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/13/2007 4:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Probably to take the heat off of Iran when the time comes.
Posted by: gorb || 04/13/2007 4:16 Comments || Top||

#6  What say you, pelosi?
Posted by: newc || 04/13/2007 6:13 Comments || Top||

#7  I did it for the children.(TM)
Posted by: Nancy Pelousy || 04/13/2007 6:36 Comments || Top||

#8  They may have a large, and even well-equipped military - but how well-trained is it? A gun is only as good as the trigger-puller, and that is a function of practice. Same rules apply to Scuds as .22's.
Posted by: Glenmore || 04/13/2007 7:39 Comments || Top||

#9  Syria v. Israel is the military equivalent of a college football game between Duke & Florida.
Posted by: Raj || 04/13/2007 8:27 Comments || Top||

#10  i still don't understand how every news coverage acts like the IDF had their asses handed too them in lebanon.they lost some soldiers that etnds too happen in war. how many of hezbollah where killed that was never mentioned was it?
Posted by: sinse || 04/13/2007 10:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Why are 10,000 troops responsible for "operating" 300 Scud missiles? If I carried the 1 correctly each time, isn't that 333 1/3rd troops per missile? How do they keep from banging into one another, knocking elbows into switches at inopportune moments, joggling fingers setting coordinates? It's nice of the Jerusalem Post to share this information, though -- now Avi and Yossi will be prepared when they're called up to aim the Israeli response... Didn't we give Israel bunker-buster missiles last spring?
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/13/2007 11:46 Comments || Top||

#12  On the other hand, don't overestimate Syria's Military. After all they've fought through proxies for decades since they had their butts handed to them by the Israelis.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 04/13/2007 11:52 Comments || Top||

#13  Not only do I agree with Sinse, but would also point out that the Israelis now have troops that have actually fought. The Syrian army hasn't been out of its barracks for over 30 years.
Posted by: DoDo || 04/13/2007 11:56 Comments || Top||

#14  Including the Syrian barracks that were in Lebanon?
Posted by: mrp || 04/13/2007 12:11 Comments || Top||

#15  TW, that would be 33 and one third per missle.
Math, why does it hate women ?
Posted by: wxjames || 04/13/2007 12:28 Comments || Top||

#16  "In satellite images broadcast this week on CBN News in the US, reporter Chris Mitchell revealed Syria's three major missile sites."

What the...Satellite images from the 700 club? Whoaa...ole Pat Robertson is truley a force to be reckoned with now. Not only is he goin high-tech he still has that whole pipeline to god thingey when the sats aren't in posisiton.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 04/13/2007 12:53 Comments || Top||

#17  #1 Hell no! They might crash and burn even better than Saddam's!!!
Posted by: Zenster 2007-04-13 00:52


I say they crash like Saddam's because they were Saddam's.
Posted by: kilowattkid || 04/13/2007 13:01 Comments || Top||

#18  TW,

Even at 33 & 1/3rd men per missile, the order of battle breaks down like this:

1 senior NCO or Junior Officer to command the launcher/transporter
1 Crew Chief
3 Crew Members
28 & 1/3 to guard the other five guys

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 04/13/2007 14:04 Comments || Top||

#19  correct, because during the 6 day war the Israelis found syrian soldiers chained to their cannons or whatever they were using at that time
Posted by: Spuse the Elder7296 || 04/13/2007 15:16 Comments || Top||

#20  TW, that would be 33 and one third per missle.
Math, why does it hate women ?


In my case, wxjames, it's because math majors can't do arithmetic. We deal (ok, dealt -- it was long ago and far away) in higher concepts than actual real numbers. I can't do tax returns, either. That's one of the many reasons I married and engineer. ;-)

Thanks everyone for the corrections and explanations. Chained to the cannon? Oh my.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/13/2007 15:27 Comments || Top||

#21  the syrians were better in '73 than they were in '67, so it would be kinda silly to judge them in 2007 by 1967. In any case, we're not talking about Syrian troops going into maneuvers, but fighting from fixed positions, which is, IIUC, easier for less well trained troops.

I have no doubt the IDF would have an easier time of it than in Lebanon - the different political situation would mean air power could be used with less restraint, theyd probably commit large numbers of infantry sooner, and their infantry is more experienced. and theres more room to use armor. But it could still be difficult - there are still limits on how successful air power will be, and there will probably still be limited time before a UNSC imposed ceasefire. Its not at all silly for the IDF to prepare for the worst.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 04/13/2007 15:50 Comments || Top||

#22  tw + math = charming fun
Posted by: RD || 04/13/2007 15:54 Comments || Top||

#23  Nukes screw up the equation for everyone. I do believe that Tel Aviv would be more inclined to use nukes today than they ever have been in the past. Damascus, Homs, Latakia, Aleppo, and Hama are all within range of Israeli F-16s. Syria has some aging SA-5 antiaircraft weapons, but they don't work very well against low-flying (terrain hugging) aircraft. The SA-5 was initially developed to target the B-70 high-altitude bomber, and to TRY to curtail the activities of the SR-71. We never deployed the B-70, and the SA-5 was totally ineffective against the SR-71.

No army that doesn't have air cover can prevail against one that does. The Israelis will destroy the Syrian air force, while remaining capable of inflicting heavy damage against Syrian positions. Using the Israeli incusion into Lebanon as a starting point is going to prove very disasterous for the Syrians, if they try it.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/13/2007 17:56 Comments || Top||

#24  Also, remember that the last time the Syrians and Israelis mixed it up in the air, the kill ratio was 88:0 in favor of Israel. Also, review the 1973 War in Golan Heights where the Syrians had complete operational surprise and the advantage of the Saggers {back when they were something new} : the Israelis lost a number of tanks but destroyed entire Syrian brigades.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 04/13/2007 20:32 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
Police gaffe makes Muslims pray in wrong direction
Aw, jeez...this is just sooooo embarrassing...

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - A Dutch police station trying to help Muslim detainees face Mecca for their prayers painted arrows in cells pointing in the wrong direction.
Should've painted five arrows. Tell them it depends on what time of the day it is.
Muslims pray five times a day, facing east in the direction of Mecca. But the arrows in Segbroek pointed west."This is a really gigantic, stupid blunder," a police spokesman told the De Telegraaf.
And I'm not just saying that. Really, I'm not...
"The faulty compass marks have been immediately corrected. It is a mystery for us how this could have possibly happened".
A mystery, I tells ya! A mystery!!
All other police cells in the Dutch capital will soon get similar compass marks.
Planning on arresting a lot of our Muzzie friends are they?
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/13/2007 12:05 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  AAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

They are all going to hell now for praying in the wrong direction!
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/13/2007 12:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Hey Achmed - The virgins are over T-H-A-Y-A-R-R-R-E .......
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 04/13/2007 13:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Screw the arrows Muzzies, just face the toilet.
Posted by: Icerigger || 04/13/2007 13:34 Comments || Top||

#4 
Praying towards the Vatican??
Posted by: macofromoc || 04/13/2007 13:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Nope. Towards Tsahal's headquarters?
Posted by: JFM || 04/13/2007 13:55 Comments || Top||

#6  This will be getting some serious scrutiny by Amnesia international and the Useless nations soon.
in the meantime: pay raises to all the Dutch involved.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 04/13/2007 14:01 Comments || Top||

#7  A cop's a cop. the humor is the same.
Posted by: Xenophon || 04/13/2007 14:07 Comments || Top||

#8  The world is a globe, there is a pretty good chance that the arrow still more or less points to Mecca, just the long way around.

I always wondered how the few Muslims that went up into space managed. With a 90 minute orbit you'd need to pray quick or shift a bit between each bow or you'd be facing the wrong way pretty darn quick.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 04/13/2007 14:14 Comments || Top||

#9  give the man who painted the arrows a medal
Posted by: sinse || 04/13/2007 14:19 Comments || Top||

#10  I just hope the crappers are facing the right way.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 04/13/2007 14:50 Comments || Top||

#11  Police gaffe makes Muslims pray in wrong direction

when in doubt

paint arrow pointing to the nearest --->> Pedophile
Posted by: RD || 04/13/2007 15:32 Comments || Top||

#12  OK, people, I'm really upset now. I was on my way to lunch, waiting for the elevator, and when the elevator door opens two "persons" in black burkas walked out of it. Only their eyes were showing. My heard skipped a beat because it was truly starting. They could have been two cobras and my reaction would have been the same. I decided I could take the stairs. I'm sorry but in my culture that kind of outfit means only one of two things: (1) it's Halloween or (2) they're getting ready to rob a bank.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 04/13/2007 15:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Imagine if the arrows, when you look real close, are really made up of tiny little pictures of the Hindu god Ganesh
Posted by: John Frum || 04/13/2007 15:51 Comments || Top||

#14  The world is a globe, there is a pretty good chance that the arrow still more or less points to Mecca, just the long way around.

rj, I don't think Columbus had made his voyage yet when Mo made up that rule. But you'd think if he was so holy he'd have known anyway.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 04/13/2007 15:54 Comments || Top||

#15  After I'm done laughing at the spokesman's apologies, please remind me to file this under: "Who Gives A World Class Shit?"

Accommodating the selective needs of prisoners is simply ridiculous. If they wanted to be sure of praying correctly, stay the FUCK out of prison. Similarly, if they're so concerned about eating halal food, don't get incarcerated. Prison is supposed to be a form of punishment, not limitless molly-coddling. If it were a tad more unpleasant, instead of being akin to a MME (Muslim Middle East) three star hotel, then maybe people would avoid doing things that got them imprisoned in the first place. Any chance that Jewish prisoners are informed of when the first star appears during Sabbath? No wine or wafers on Sunday for the Catholic jailbirds? Oh, the fucking humanity!

Worst of all is how this sort of appeasment merely triggers successive levels of increased Muslim entitlement and decreases the threshold of where their endless sensitivities kick in. Until we start kicking Islamic butt so regularly that you can set your watch by it, be prepared to see even more outrageous demands for preferential treatment.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/13/2007 15:57 Comments || Top||

#16  Silly rabbit, trix are for kufrs!
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/13/2007 15:58 Comments || Top||

#17  I seem to remember from the articles about that "white raisins" guy that one of the datapoints for thinking that Mecca was actually some other place other than the current Mecca was that one of the earliest mosques in southern Iraq was discovered to have originally been oriented in the wrong direction to have been facing Mecca - too far north, or something like that.

My opinion at the time was that it was more likely an ignorant seventh-century architect who just got the direction wrong, but one of the white-raisins guys wanted to build a grand conspiracy theory about eighth or ninth century caliphs eradicating evidence of the "real Mecca".
Posted by: Mitch H. || 04/13/2007 17:25 Comments || Top||

#18  Have the arrows point to the nearest Kosher delicatessen.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/13/2007 17:59 Comments || Top||

#19  Or pig farm.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 04/13/2007 18:16 Comments || Top||

#20  Haha, just got an idea for a new product.
Mecca compass, points toward Mecca from all over the world. It would be a real compass with the arrow above the face offset from the magnetic arrow below the face. You set the arrow at the point of sale, then sell a bunch, then go back to used cars.
Mecca Compass (TM) $50.00 each
Profits go to Allan's Snackbar boys school, void in Delaware.
Posted by: wxjames || 04/13/2007 21:44 Comments || Top||

#21  ALLLAHUoooops.
Posted by: OldSpook || 04/13/2007 21:54 Comments || Top||

#22  Paint the arrows in their cells all pointing in different, random directions. And when it drives them bugshit, adamantly REFUSE to do anything about it.

Posted by: Dave D. || 04/13/2007 21:56 Comments || Top||

#23  why paint anything? Fuck em Allah will guide them
Posted by: Frank G || 04/13/2007 22:06 Comments || Top||

#24  Mitch H., was that wrong-facing mosque possibly pointed toward Jerusalem? I've heard that originally Mohammed had his followers praying toward Jerusalem, and only changed directions when the Jews refused to convert.

Y'all are just full of wonderful ideas today!
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/13/2007 22:08 Comments || Top||

#25  "why paint anything?"

Just... because, that's why.

Paint a small circle in the middle of the floor of each cell, with the instructions "BANG HEAD HERE".

Posted by: Dave D. || 04/13/2007 22:11 Comments || Top||

#26  Wouldn't it be more accurate to paint the arrow on the wall pointing down (to hell....)?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/13/2007 22:35 Comments || Top||



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