The leader of an Afghan district where Canadians are currently deployed says he has reason to believe the Pakistani secret police are offering cash rewards to anyone who uses an explosive device to injure or kill a NATO soldier.
"I have heard the Pakistan ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence) is openly giving money for people that are laying mines."
"I have heard the Pakistan ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence) is openly giving money for people that are laying mines," said Haji Saifullah, district leader for Maywand, a desert region in the northwest sector of Kandahar province with a population of about 100,000 people.
"If the mine goes off on coalition forces, they are going to get more money, if they go off on (Afghanistan National Army soldiers) they are going to get middle-class money, and if it is going off on police, they are going to get less money," he added, while speaking through an interpreter provided by the Canadian military.
CanWest News Service yesterday could not independently verify Mr. Saifullah's comments, and the district leader did not provide any direct evidence to prove the allegations.
In yesterday's interview, Mr. Saifullah said he has been told that a successful bomber will get 100,000 Pakistani rupees, about $1,900 Cdn, if he kills a member of NATO's International Security Assistance Force, and 20,000 rupees, about $380, for members of the Afghan forces. He added he has heard a bomber will get half those amounts if he is able to simply hit a convoy with an explosive device.
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When are we going tackle Perv and the ISI who are openly supporting/funding the Taliban?????
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We lost 6 guys in a LAV on Easter Sunday to a mine. Another 2 today in 3 seperate attacks on convoys. 2 of the attacks were indeed in the desert west of Kandahar. No word yet on whether they were mine attacks. Considering the size of our forces there, it has been a brutal week.
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They died to keep us all free of the Caliphate, Canuckistan, for which we are grateful. May their memories be a blessing and a comfort for those who loved them. And may their fellows quickly send their killers straight to Hell.
Eritrea dismissed on Tuesday allegations by the top US diplomat on Africa, Assistant Secretary of State Jendayi Frazer, that it was trying to destabilise Somalia as a way of hurting its arch foe Ethiopia.
The Eritrean government is not disposed to reply to such a statement by an amateur diplomat that does not reflect the US administrations official stance.
The Eritrean government is not disposed to reply to such a statement by an amateur diplomat that does not reflect the US administrations official stance, a statement posted on the government Web site said. Frazer met members of Somalias Ethiopian-backed interim government on Saturday and urged them to open the political process to all Somalis who renounced violence and extremism. The New York Times quoted her as accusing Eritrea of destabilising Somalia, and said it was widely known that Eritrea would do anything to hurt its arch foe Ethiopia. Eritrea also said it had held talks with a former leader of Somalias Islamists, ousted late last year in a swift offensive by Ethiopian and Somali government forces. Asmara said in a separate statement on its www.shabait.com Web site that Sheikh Sharif Ahmed told Eritrean President Isaias Afwerki that Somalis would never submit to Ethiopian invaders.
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About 20 illegal African immigrants drowned off Yemen's east coast early this week after smugglers forced a group of them overboard, government sources said yesterday. "The smugglers forced 37 African immigrants - 30 Somalis and 7 Ethiopians - to jump into the sea after they were spotted by the Yemeni coast guards," the defence ministry website www.26sep.net quoted an unidentified security official as saying.
The official said 20 of the immigrants drowned and the others made it to the coast. Yemeni coast guards have arrested 183 illegal African immigrants over the last two days in the eastern coast of Shabwa, officials were quoted as saying. Ninety-three of them were Somalis, including 35 women, and 90 were Ethiopians, including 25 women. Earlier this month, the UN agency for refugees affairs said that about 5,000 African immigrants had entered Yemen since January and 170 immigrants drowned while attempting to do so.
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Hey, gromgoru - you missed putting a 'mixed feelings' comment here.
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indeed. These are 37 human beings - and for you muslim haters, 7 of them were ethiopians, which means like a 50% chance they were Ethiopian Orthodox. And they must have been pretty desperate to want to get into Yemen (maybe they expected to head on to the Persian Gulf, no great life there either - its not like Yemen is the gateway to Europe, is it?)
Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture. His remarks angered community leaders, who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem.
One accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a Downing Street summit.
Black community leaders reacted after Mr Blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave, but as specific to black youth. He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".
It needed to be addressed by a tailored counter-attack in the same way as football hooliganism was reined in by producing measures aimed at the specific problem, rather than general lawlessness.
Mr Blair's remarks are at odds with those of the Home Office minister Lady Scotland, who told the home affairs select committee last month that the disproportionate number of black youths in the criminal justice system was a function of their disproportionate poverty, and not to do with a distinctive black culture.
Giving the Callaghan lecture in Cardiff, the prime minister admitted he had been "lurching into total frankness" in the final weeks of his premiership. He called on black people to lead the fight against knife crime. He said that "the black community - the vast majority of whom in these communities are decent, law abiding people horrified at what is happening - need to be mobilised in denunciation of this gang culture that is killing innocent young black kids".
Mr Blair said he had been moved to make his controversial remarks after speaking to a black pastor of a London church at a Downing Street knife crime summit, who said: "When are we going to start saying this is a problem amongst a section of the black community and not, for reasons of political correctness, pretend that this is nothing to do with it?" Mr Blair said there needed to be an "intense police focus" on the minority of young black Britons behind the gun and knife attacks. The laws on knife and gun gangs needed to be toughened and the ringleaders "taken out of circulation".
Last night, British African-Caribbean figures leading the fight against gang culture condemned Mr Blair's speech. The Rev Nims Obunge, chief executive of the Peace Alliance, one of the main organisations working against gang crime, denounced the prime minister.
Mr Obunge, who attended the Downing Street summit chaired by Mr Blair in February, said he had been cited by the prime minister: "He makes it look like I said it's the black community doing it. What I said is it's making the black community more vulnerable and they need more support and funding for the work they're doing. ... He has taken what I said out of context. We came for support and he has failed and has come back with more police powers to use against our black children."
Keith Jarrett, chair of the National Black Police Association, whose members work with vulnerable youngsters, said: "Social deprivation and delinquency go hand in hand and we need to tackle both. It is curious that the prime minister does not mention deprivation in his speech."
Lee Jasper, adviser on policing to London's mayor, said: "For years we have said this is an issue the black community has to deal with. The PM is spectacularly ill-informed if he thinks otherwise.
"Every home secretary from [David] Blunkett onwards has been pressed on tackling the growing phenomenon of gun and gang crime in deprived black communities, and government has failed to respond to what has been a clear demand for additional resources to tackle youth alienation and disaffection".
The Home Office has already announced it is looking at the possibility of banning membership of gangs, tougher enforcement of the supposed mandatory five-year sentences for possession of illegal firearms, and lowering the age from 21 to 18 for this mandatory sentence.
Answering questions later Mr Blair said: "Economic inequality is a factor and we should deal with that, but I don't think it's the thing that is producing the most violent expression of this social alienation.
"I think that is to do with the fact that particular youngsters are being brought up in a setting that has no rules, no discipline, no proper framework around them."
Some people working with children knew at the age of five whether they were going to be in "real trouble" later, he said.
Mr Blair is known to believe the tendency for many black boys to be raised in families without a father leads to a lack of appropriate role models.
He said: "We need to stop thinking of this as a society that has gone wrong - it has not - but of specific groups that for specific reasons have gone outside of the proper lines of respect and good conduct towards others and need by specific measures to be brought back into the fold."
The Commission for Racial Equality broadly backed Mr Blair, saying people "shouldn't be afraid to talk about this issue for fear of sounding prejudiced".
Mr Blair spoke out as a second teenager was due to appear in court charged with the murder of 14-year-old Paul Erhahon, stabbed to death in east London on Friday. He was the seventh Londoner under 16 to be murdered since the end of January, and his 15-year-old friend, who was also stabbed, remains in hospital.
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Everyone gets it, except the american political class. The black american culture of drugs, guns and hos has been seeping into other countries for a couple of decades now, with predictable outcomes. We don't have a large black population here in Canada, but the youth who adopt it (caucasian, east indian, asian, etc.) are falling into the same patterns of behaviour. It's not race, nor poverty, it's cultural.
JAPAN has extended its sanctions against North Korea for six months, amid growing doubts that Pyongyang will close its key nuclear reactor by this Saturday's deadline.
The Japanese cabinet yesterday voted to extend the restrictions, with the Foreign Minister, Taro Aso, citing a lack of progress in resolving the 30-year-old issue of kidnapped Japanese . "North Korea hasn't been sincere so far in its efforts to solve the abduction issue," Mr Aso said. "We will continue similar sanctions unless North Korea acts appropriately."
The Government will continue its ban on imports from North Korea, bar its ships from calling on Japanese ports and forbid its officials from entering Japan.
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FREEREPUBLIC > Iran planning to [eventually]install 50,000 centrifuges; + emulate NORTH KOREA? by threatening to withdraw from NPT iff made subject to stronger pressures. MOSNEWS > RUSSIA > Iran's announcement is a CHALLENGE TO ENTIRE WORLD COMMUNITY, i.e. stop them or shut up!? C2CAM Pert > Even presuming that Iran only installs 3000 centrifuges, IS STILL MORE THAN ENUFF FOR IRAN TO MANUFACTURE A POTENT NUMBER OF NUCLEAR TRIGGERS, AS IRAN MAY ALREADY HAVE ENUFF MATERIALS TO PRODUCE 20 TACTICAL NUKE DEVICES. The wilful detonation by Iran of a handful of nuclear devices on their own soil agz a US=US-led invasion force will frighten or intimidate US pols into demanding that no US invasion take place = US retaliation is limited in scope???
THE Lebanese political leader with alleged links to Hezbollah Sheik Taj al din al-Hilali claims he gave $10,000 has denied personally receiving the money. Bilal Shaaban said Sheik Hilali may have put him as the recipient of the cash raised in Australia for war victims in Lebanon because it was a convenient way of accounting for the money, The Australian newspaper reported.
"I know nofing! Tell them, Ho-gan!"
Sheik Hilali made handwritten records of the donation to Sheik Shaaban's radio station on Rydges Hotel notepaper, obtained by the newspaper. Not one cent, not one penny went to me, said Sheik Shaaban.
How much went to pay the tab at the Rydges?
Sheik Shaaban, the head of the Islamic Unity Movement in Lebanon, also said his organisation's radio station received no money from Sheik Hilali. The radio station is licensed with the Government - it is not a pirate radio station, he said. We had two radio stations that got hit and as far as I know we did not receive any donations to fix them.
The Australian Federal Police is investigating $70,000 raised by the Sydney-based Lebanese Muslim Association and handed out in Lebanon by Sheik Alhilali. LMA president Tom Zreika has said allegations have been made in the Muslim community that Sheik Hilali gave some of the money to Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. But Sheik Shaaban told of how he accompanied the mufti to war-torn villages in southern Lebanon. (He was) giving them (villagers) cash payments of $200-$300 Australian dollars, Sheik Shaaban told the paper.
But he didn't get any receipts, either.
This article starring:
Bilal Shaaban
Sheik Hilali
Islamic Unity Movement in Lebanon
Lebanese Muslim Association
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You just gotta know it's true, otherwise they'd be bragging about it.
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Sheik Hilali made handwritten records of the donation to Sheik Shaaban's radio station on Rydges Hotel notepaper
Interesting that muslim taxi drivers are refusing to carry passengers with alcohol; others are obsessing about medicines made with or containing alcohol, or carbon dioxide for soft drinks as a byproduct of beer brewing, but their overlords are apparently happy to slum it in Rydges, with "Allah's" blessing. Room service?
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This article, like virtually all criminal-terrorist related European media products, requires careful reading for the culture-specific codes.
Sweden is to step up the fight against suspected war criminals hiding in the country, with a special war crimes unit likely to be set up at the National Criminal Investigation Department.
Around 1,000 suspected war criminals live in Sweden, with more expected to arrive together with current waves of immigrants, according to Svenska Dagbladet.
Pim Martinsson, head of the Human Rights and War Crimes Commission at the National Criminal Investigation Department said that there were currently 30 to 40 investigations underway into war crimes, but the investigations rarely led to prosecutions.
The proposed new group would contain investigators, prosecutors and political scientists, and would maintain close contact with the Swedish Migration Board.
"Everything is too split at present," said international prosecutor Magnus Elling to Svenska Dagbladet.
"An investigator never learns from his mistakes if he only gets to carry out an investigation every ten years. There needs to be continuity," he said.
Read: We're up to our eyeballs in terrorists and assassins. We don't have a clue as to how many cells there are in our perfect, smug, self-righteous, Nobel-Prize awarding, Cloud Cuckoo Land kingdom.
Sweden is home to large groups of refugees from a number of war zones, including Iraq and Afghanistan. The country previously received large numbers from the former Yugoslavia.
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To summarize: there may be tougher investigations, if the National Criminal Investigation Department actually does set up and staff, and then train the staff of the proposed special crimes unit. I'm awfully glad I don't live in Sweden amongst the unknown number somewhere north of 1000, a number expected increase significantly in the near future.
SAN FRANCISCO A House committee scheduled hearings Tuesday on the string of misleading statements by the military following the friendly fire death of Pat Tillman in Afghanistan and the kidnapping and rescue of Pvt. Jessica Lynch in Iraq. The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform announced it will hold the hearing April 24 as part of an investigation into whether the misinformation stemmed from a government strategy to mislead the public.
The hearings come two weeks after the Pentagon released the findings of its own twin investigations into Tillman's shooting, three years after his death, and four years after Lynch's kidnapping. The panel has been quietly investigating the Tillman case since that release, and decided to add Lynch to the scope of its probe. It will examine why inaccurate accounts of these two incidents were disseminated, the sources and motivations for the accounts, and whether the appropriate Administration officials have been held accountable, the committee said Tuesday in a brief announcement on its Web site.
The Tillman family and some lawmakers said the previous investigations were inadequate and did not sufficiently address the role of then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld in hiding the true circumstances of Tillman's death from his relatives for five weeks. The Army maintained publicly during that time that he had been killed by enemy fire, when in fact his fellow Rangers shot him after a chaotic ambush. The military concealed the truth although dozens of officers knew within hours or days that Tillman had been killed by friendly fire.
One or more members of the Tillman family will probably testify, the committee said. Tillman's mother and father did not immediately return calls for comment on Tuesday.
Lynch's spokeswoman, Aly Goodwin Gregg, said Lynch will also testify. She was very interested in doing so. She's used every opportunity to tell what really happened and to talk about the real heroes of that day, Gregg said.
Lynch, a 21-year-old former Army supply clerk, became one of the most visible faces of the war when she was rescued from an Iraqi hospital on April 1, 2003. Her convoy was attacked after taking a wrong turn in the Iraqi town of Nasiriyah. Eleven American soldiers were killed and six, including Lynch, were captured. Her videotaped rescue by special forces from a Nasiriyah hospital on April 1 branded Lynch a hero at a time the U.S. war effort seemed bogged down.
Bogged down? This was when the Iraqi army was folding like a wet paper bag.
It also stirred complaints of U.S. government media manipulation.
Which no previous administration has ever attempted.
Early reports never stemming from Lynch or her family, and later disproved had her suffering knife and bullet wounds while fighting off attackers until she ran out of ammunition.
If I remember correctly, the official military sources were tight lipped and urged caution about these stories at the time. It was reporters who got a story from a guy who heard from his buddy that he heard she was the greatest fighter since Sgt York
Tillman was killed with three shots to the forehead after his Army Ranger comrades were ambushed in eastern Afghanistan. He and an allied Afghan fighter a few feet away from Tillman were killed by the same Rangers, who failed to identify both men as friendlies. His death got worldwide attention because he had walked away from a huge contract with the National Football League's Arizona Cardinals to enlist in the Army after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Details of the hearing entitled Misleading Information from the Battlefield, have not been completely ironed out. It was not yet clear whether the committee plans to call officials with knowledge of the cases to testify.
Why let facts get in the way of your investigation?
Though empowered to do so, the committee has no plans to subpoena witnesses, said one official involved in the investigation. He spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the probe and hearing have not been officially decided.
The committee, run by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., a frequent Bush administration critic, has launched several investigations since Democrats took power in Congress in January. But it has not issued subpoenas in any of its probes, including one into the administration's claims that Iraq sought uranium from Niger and another into contacts between lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the White House.
Because getting subpoenas might mean getting accurate testimony, and Waxman doesn't want to discredit Joe Wilson any further.
Another congressional official with knowledge of the current investigation said that although the upcoming hearing might only last one day, it could mark the start of much more sweeping inquiries by lawmakers. The House Armed Services Committee is also considering Tillman hearings, a spokeswoman for that panel said Monday.
Getting ready for the election cycle
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From the play/movie Chicago:
BAILIFF(Spoken)
Mr. Flynn, his honor is here
BILLY(Spoken)
Thank you. Just a moment.
You ready?
ROXIE(Spoken)
Oh Billy, I'm scared.
BILLY(Spoken)
Roxie, you got nothing to worry about.
It's all a circus, kid. A three ring circus.
These trials- the wholeworld- all show business.
But kid, you're working with a star, the biggest!
(Singing)
Give 'em the old razzle dazzle
Razzle Dazzle 'em
Give 'em an act with lots of flash in it
And the reaction will be passionate
Give 'em the old hocus pocus
Bead and feather 'em
How can they see with sequins in their eyes?
What if your hinges all are rusting?
What if, in fact, you're just disgusting?
Razzle dazzle 'em
And they;ll never catch wise!
Give 'em the old Razzle Dazzle
BILLY AND COMPANY
Razzle dazzle 'em
Give 'em a show that's so splendiferous
BILLY
Row after row will crow vociferous
BILLY AND COMPANY
Give 'em the old flim flam flummox
Fool and fracture 'em
BILLY
How can they hear the truth above the roar?
BILLY AND COMPANY
Throw 'em a fake and a finagle
They'll never know you're just a bagel,
BILLY
Razzle dazzle 'em
And they'll beg you for more!
BILLY AND COMPANY
Give 'em the old double whammy
Daze and dizzy 'em
Back since the days of old Methuselah
Everyone loves the big bambooz-a-ler
Give 'em the old three ring circus
Stun and stagger 'em
When you're in trouble, go into your dance
Though you are stiffer than a girder
They'll let you get away with murder
Razzle dazzle 'em
And you've got a romance
COMPANY(The same time as BILLY's)
Give 'em the old
Razzle Dazzle
BILLY
Give 'em the old Razzle Dazzle
Razzle dazzle 'em
Show 'em the first rate sorceror you are
Long as you keep 'em way off balance
How can they spot you've got no talent
Razzle Dazzle 'em
BILLY AND COMPANY
Razzle Dazzle 'em
Razzle Dazzle 'em
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So now, the Democrats are going to declare that all information flowing from a war zone must be accurate, immediately, or someone's lying and must be punished.
I have no problem with the military punishing the people who tried to cover up the facts in the Tillman case, but the Lynch case seems more of a search for a scandal. Even in the Tillman case, Congress did its job in establishing the regulations -- now they need to butt out.
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It's a pity the taxpayers can't cut off the funding for Congress.
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"Her videotaped rescue by special forces from a Nasiriyah hospital on April 1 branded Lynch a hero at a time the U.S. war effort seemed bogged down."
"Bogged down", my aching ass. We ripped the most powerful army in the Middle East to tattered shreds in barely three weeks.
THIS is what ought to be investigated: the concerted effort by the Democrats, in collusion with their paid propagandists in the media, to undermine the war effort 24/7/365 FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
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Though empowered to do so, the committee has no plans to subpoena witnesses, said one official involved in the investigation.
Wouldn't wanna do that. Witnesses might get in the way of Waxman's grandstanding.
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Pelosi: "But a person of Mr. Lantos' stature and personal experience is saying that -- even as a Holocaust survivor and even recognizing the outrageous statements of the president of Iran -- it's important to have dialogue. I think that speaks volumes."
Stupid bitch. The only thing it "speaks volumes" about is the hopelessly infantile nature of liberal thinking. "Dialogue" is not going to deter or prevent these evil monsters from acquiring nuclear weapons, and then using them. The ONLY thing "dialogue" will accomplish is allow idiot liberals like Pelosi to feel good about themselves right up until the moment of detonation.
There is a point where stupidity itself becomes a form of evil. The Democratic Party has reached that point.
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IF Lantos, Holocaust survivor, is prepared to challenge DJ to deny the Holocaust right to his face, really pin him to the wall about it, show him the scars and the pain, make DJ squirm and shuffle his feet on Iranian and Arabian teevee, then I cautiously say 'yes'.
But we all know that's not on Tom's agenda and certainly not on La Pelosi's, so I emphatically say 'no'.
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She has never walked a mile in any of our shoes (boots), let alone shed blood in which we had shed for her ranting; she has a free run of free speech (not earned by my blood or my brothers). God bless her for the free ride.
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These idiots would've started a "dialogue" with Hitler. "Granted you must exterminate the old and infirm Jews, but how about the healthy young ones? Can't you just confiscate all their property and expell them from Germany? Let's talk about that..."
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Funny thing,
She was the first one to ask for our crucifixion during tail hook, and yet she stands behind us as warriors. Reminds me of dont ask while Ill fuck you in the ass policy.
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As Angie notes, I'd like to hear whom Pelosi would not talk to: Hitler? Pol Pot?
I bet that while she'd talk to any leftist or islamicist thug, she'd draw the line a Pinochet, Somoza, or Botha. Funny how that works.
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Steve, that's different. Those men are e-e-evil. Maybe even an axis of evil.
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Just a thought, but does the AF have to provide a plane for this boondoggle? Would be interesting to see what happens if the AF were to say that they could not fly into proscribed air space because, 1. It is illegal. and 2. They could not guarantee her safety.
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When you sit down to negotiate with evil, exactly what do you plan to offer up?
Bingo! What sort of "dialogue" succeeds with those whose sole intent is to kill you in the largest numbers possible? Pelosi is simply incapable of comprehending that evil exists and that it is not to be brooked. Her Pollyannaish notions that some accomodation can be made with radical Islam is far worse than Chamberlain's appeasement. Nazis still possessed a modicum of rationality. Islam, quite frankly, DOES NOT. How does one reason with those who are entirely unreasonable? When considering Pelosi's inanity, Frank Sinatra's quote about Nancy Reagan springs to mind:
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Pelose and Lantos are champions of peace. Muslims accept their message of intolerance and open arms to Muslim immigrants (liberators) or the terror prison of America. Caliphate Now!
Before winging off to iran, how's about submitting the "official transcripts" (and gov travel claim particulars) related to your last little unofficial ego-junket? "Loganize 'em, Danno"! ---(yeah, like that would ever happen)
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Maybe we can get Iran or Russia to lend an airplane.
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Okay, I'll bite, methought HILLARY was considering BILL to be SecSTATE or SecGEN OF THE UNO. i.e. "Bill could rule the World" or words to that efect, ala LUCIANNE/FREEREPUBLIC weeks back. NANCY to replace CONDI???
Joseph Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a Democratic presidential candidate, called Wednesday for the use of military force to end the suffering in Darfur. "I would use American force now," Biden said at a hearing before his committee. "I think it's not only time not to take force off the table. I think it's time to put force on the table and use it."
Yup, we can use American military force when our security is not at stake, but never when it is.
In advocating use of military force, Biden said senior U.S. military officials in Europe told him that 2,500 U.S. troops could "radically change the situation on the ground now."
I believe that. One brigade from the 82nd Airborne could make a big difference. Until the Janjaweed start taking pot shots and the rules of engagement prevent us from shooting back, and then the Cindy Sheehans of the world decide that Darfur is all our fault, and Joe pulls the rug out from under our troops. Have we seen this movie already?
"Let's stop the bleeding," Biden said. "I think it's a moral imperative."
Under U.N.-backed agreements approved last fall, a hybrid force of 22,000 African Union and U.N. peacekeepers are to be deployed in Darfur to protect and provide relief for 2.5 million Darfurians who have been forced from their homes and are now confined to camps. "We must set a hard deadline for Khartoum to accept a hybrid U.N.-AU force," Biden said.
The Bush administration has always rejected use of military force in Darfur, partly because of a possible outcry, particularly in Muslim countries about hostile U.S. action in yet another Islamic country on the heels of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. But Plagiarist Joe knows better!
Andrew Natsios, the special U.S. envoy to Sudan, said the U.S. has agreed to a request by U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon for a two- to four-week delay in imposing unilateral sanctions against Sudan so negotiations can take place on whether Sudan will accept deployment of international peacekeepers for Darfur.
Natsios said the U.S. is contemplating sanctions against 29 Sudanese companies. He said they are the type of sanctions that have been imposed with some success against Iran and North Korea.
If the sanctions are applied on the Sudanese companies, he said, they could lead to the paralysis of some of their operations. Sudan has an economy? Who knew?
"It will have an affect on the economy," Natsios said in testimony to the committee.
Biden, of Delaware, and other senators expressed impatience with the lack of progress on Darfur four years after civil strife broke out between Arab and black tribes in the western Sudanese region.
Sudan's government has agreed to the initial stages of the proposed deployment. But President Omar al-Bashir has rejected full deployment, concerned that Sudanese sovereignty will be violated and the troops will arrest Sudanese officials suspected of authorizing war crimes.
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and by the way why not ask your buddies at the UN too quit molesting the children in africa and elsewhere and do it themselves or how about the african union , oh never mind it's a piece of shit too
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The UN is stupid enough to molest African Children? Where the AIDS rate is 80%?
Sounds like a self-curing problem.
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round of drinks for the RBer who identifies the first person to give this speech. Slow Joe does reruns (of other people), not premieres of speechs
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It'd be great if somebody called Joe on this. How would you use the military Joe? Drop alot of bombs, missles, etc?? Shoot everybody on horseback??? Share your plan Joe.
White House hopeful and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) harshly criticized House Speaker Nancy Pelosis (D-Calif.) trip to Syria during a speech on foreign policy Tuesday. Speaking at the George Bush Presidential Library Center in College Station, Texas, Romney embraced the courage of President George W. Bush before decrying the divisiveness, the bitterness, the smallness, the disunity of foreign-policy politics in Washington.
And then the Speaker of the House helped dignify a state sponsor of terror. At this time of war, her action stands as one of the most partisan, divisive and ill-considered of any national leader in this decade.
And then the Speaker of the House helped dignify a state sponsor of terror, Romney said, in excerpts released by his campaign. At this time of war, her action stands as one of the most partisan, divisive and ill-considered of any national leader in this decade. Romney said the state of the U.S. military had declined during the Clinton administration, and he called for expanding the military by 100,000 troops.
The former governor also offered a staunch defense of Bushs efforts in Iraq, echoing many of the presidents talking points as he endures intense criticism over the war effort.
Running away from Iraq now would embolden our enemies, giving them the sanctuary they need to plan more devastating attacks against our country, Romney said. In this difficult time, some in Congress are trying to deny our troops the resources they need. This is a grave error. We need to rally behind the effort, and support our men and women in uniform in this time of war.
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"100,000 troops" > FREEREPUBLIC/DEBKA - Russia is planning "ACTIVE MILITARY RESPONSE" to counter US deployment of TMD-GMD in Eastern Europe. Besides new technologies, e.g. Russian warheads change pattern while in mid-flight, Russia may move subs to NORTH POLE + target East Euro bases wid ISKANDER missles.
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FOX > DOUG MCINTIRE [O'REILLY Show]> IMMIGRATION ANARCHY [paraphrased] > "We have lost the issue when neither our Society nor Public Authority is willing to arrest or deport illegal immigrants, NOT FOR BEING ILLEGAL, NOT FOR NOT TRYING TO BECOME A LEGAL CITIZEN OR RESIDENT OR WORKER, NOT FOR COMMITTING ANY PHYSICAL ACTS OF CRIME AS AN ILLEGAL, ETC". Similar gener principle can be said for Iran + WOT > AMER WILL DE FACTO LOSE IFF IT BECOMES TOO FRIGHTENED + HAMSTRUNG OVER ITS OWN DESTRUCTION, BECOMING TOO FEARFUL TO ACT.
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I'm not an American and I don't live in the USA but I think this Mitt guy is the only impressive GOP candidate for Presidency. He looks presidential and energetic, not grey and tired.
A man identified as "Esam Omesh" spoke just before Cindy Sheehan at last month's antiwar rally that Sheehan headlined in Washington.
Following chants of "Impeach Bush!" from shivering protesters, Omesh took the podium and exhorted "brothers and sisters" to condemn Bush for the deaths of "more than 650,000 Iraqi lives." He demanded the White House "pull our troops out of Iraq now" and "end the war today."
The speaker counted himself among the "great American patriots" who braved the cold to march on Washington and protest the war that day.
While there may have been legitimate voices there, this speaker decidedly was not one of them. Not because he's Muslim, but because he's an Islamist tied to an al-Qaida fund raiser and the spiritual adviser to the 9/11 hijackers.
Turns out it his real name is Esam S. Omeish, and he runs a nonprofit group in Washington called the Muslim American Society, which the FBI believes is the U.S. branch of the dangerous Muslim Brotherhood, a worldwide jihadist movement that operates like the mafia. The secret Islamist society counts Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahri, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and blind sheik Omar Abdel Rahman among its members. Its motto: "The Quran is our constitution, the prophet is our guide; Death for the glory of Allah is our greatest ambition."
His office is right next door to the old office of one of Al-Qaida's top fund raisers in America, Abdurahman Alamoudi, before he was jailed a few years ago. And it's located in the same Alexandria, Va., business park as the former office of Osama bin Laden's nephew, before he hightailed it back to Saudi Arabia after 9/11.
"Omesh" is not the legal spelling of his name. He may spell it that way for the media, but that's not how it's listed in court documents I've examined. The correct spelling is Omeish with an "i." Perhaps he leaves it out to avoid links to his brother, Mohamed S. Omeish.
As I first reported in my book, "Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington," Mohamed Omeish headed the U.S. branch of one of bin Laden's favorite Saudi charities, the International Islamic Relief Organization, which was raided after 9/11. Tax records I've obtained show Omeish shared an office with Alamoudi, the convicted al-Qaida-tied terrorist and godfather of the Muslim mafia in America. This is the same "moderate" Muslim leader who federal prosecutors caught on tape complaining bin Laden hadn't killed enough Americans.
It gets worse. Esam S. Omeish also sits on the board of the 9/11-tied mosque in Washington that helped the hijackers get licenses and housing, and whose imam prepared them for martyrdom operations in private closed-door sessions. Omeish personally hired the imam, Anwar Aulaqi, who fled the country on a Saudi jet about a year after 9/11 (the FBI now wants another crack at questioning him).
Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center, which tax records show has received large donations from the Islamic Relief Organization, is a Muslim Brotherhood bastion. Another former imam and current prayer leader, for example, is an admitted Brotherhood member from the Sudan. The mosque's deed was signed by an Alamoudi crony who has admitted participating in the Brotherhood's "Ikhwan" movement in America.
Dar al-Hijrah is a turnstile for terrorists and terror suspects. A prayer leader, Sheikh Mohammed al-Hanooti, was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing. Other dubious mosque members have included: Alamoudi, Abdullah bin Laden, Osama's nephew; Hamas leader and fugitive Mousa Abu Marzook and his partners Ismail Elbarasse and Abdelhaleem Ashqar, who was convicted of obstruction of justice in February; convicted Virginia Jihad Network leader Randall "Ismail" Royer, a former CAIR official; and Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, an al-Qaida operative recently convicted of plotting to assassinate President Bush.
Leaders of the mosque rallied around Ali, calling the trial a Zionist "witch hunt," even after it became obvious he was guilty.
What's more, the phone number to the mosque was found in the German apartment of Ramzi bin al-Shibh, roommate of 9/11 ringleader Mohamed Atta. Atta's deputy "emir" in the "raid" on America, Nawaf al-Hazmi, worshipped at Dar al-Hijrah, along with the pilot who crashed the plane into the Pentagon.
Back to mosque leader Esam Omeish, the "American patriot." Court records I've obtained show he put his home up for bond collateral in 2004 to help spring from jail a terrorist suspect who was caught allegedly casing the Chesapeake bridge for attack. His dubious pal Ismail Elbarasse is a founding member of Dar al-Hijrah.
Omeish's house is just down the road from the mosque in Falls Church, Va., and just a few blocks in the other direction from the Islamist business park in Alexandria. One of Omeish's neighbors on his cul-de-sac is the former bookkeeper for terror banker Soliman Biheiri. He started an Islamic investment bank that included Hamas leader Marzook and Abdullah bin Laden as major investors. Biheiri, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, was recently convicted of lying about his connections to Marzook in an investigation into his terrorist ties.
It's one big happy Islamist family in Omeish's neck of the woods.
This is who is rallying opposition to the war. Omeish may claim to be an "American patriot," but even Cindy Sheehan should know better. The people she's consorting with would not have shed a tear had her son been beheaded in Iraq.
This article features:
Esam S. Omeish aka Esam Omesh
Mohamed S. Omeish
Abdurahman Alamoudi
Sheikh Mohammed al-Hanooti
Alamoudi, Abdullah bin Laden
Mousa Abu Marzook
Ismail Elbarasse
Abdelhaleem Ashqar
Randall "Ismail" Royer
Ahmed Omar Abu Ali
Ramzi bin al-Shibh
Nawaf al-Hazmi
Ismail Elbarasse
Soliman Biheiri
Cindy Sheehan
Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center
International Islamic Relief Organization
Muslim American Society
Muslim Brotherhood
CAIR
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I'm reminded of the HISTORY CHANNEL's specialez on HANNIBAL > Hannibal says he "offers the Roman people, slaves, + captive allies FREEDOM FROM ROME", to which the latter say "FREEDOM FROM WHAT"??? Isn't Radical Islam ARGUING + FIGHTING FOR MORE HARDLINE, DESPOTIC ISLAM, NOT LESS.
Ministers and intelligence bosses voiced opposition to a crackdown on students of Jamia Hafsa and Jamia Fareedia and the Lal Masjid administration for political and security reasons, at a meeting on Monday, Daily Times has learnt. The intel tail continues to wag the state dog, I see...
Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao told the meeting, chaired by President Gen Pervez Musharraf at Army House, that the government could not afford the use of force against madrassa students since general elections were near. The intelligence bosses maintained that a crackdown would create a law and order situation in Islamabad and would strengthen extremists in the country.
Javed Iqbal Cheema, director general of the National Crisis Management Cell, also opposed the use of force, because we are already confronting difficult situations in Waziristan and Balochistan, according to the sources. Sources said that almost all meeting participants - which included Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, Law Minister Wasi Zafar and Information Minister Muhammad Ali Durrani - opposed a crackdown on madrassa students. Sources said that the president had approved a strategy for a crackdown in case negotiations failed.
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The minister said on a TV talk show that he had done this after Ghazi made a written promise to him guaranteeing his good behaviour. However, Ghazi denied this, saying he had never been indicted in a terrorism case.
Religious Affairs Minister Ejazul Haq has admitted that he made personal efforts to get Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi, deputy administrator of Lal Masjid, bail in cases of terrorism, Online reports. The minister said on a TV talk show that he had done this after Ghazi made a written promise to him guaranteeing his good behaviour. However, Ghazi denied this, saying he had never been indicted in a terrorism case.
DT Monitor adds: Haq told Geo TV that Lal Masjid was showing no flexibility in talks with the government, and if these talks failed, an operation would be launched against the mosque. He added the action of Jamia Hafsa students had hurt the image of madrassas.
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He added the action of Jamia Hafsa students had hurt the image of madrassas.
I thought their actions revealed the "image" of madrassas and clearly show the results of their "education".
PML President Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain made yet another attempt to resolve the Jamia Hafsa stand-off by meeting the Lal Masjid administration late on Tuesday night and assuring them that the government would reconstruct seven mosques demolished by the CDA, sources told Daily Times. The sources said that Shujaat told the clerics that the CDA had been directed to select new locations for the mosques and estimate the time needed for their reconstruction. The sources said that Shujaat also briefed the Lal Masjid administration about his meetings with President Musharraf and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz on the issue.
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The Lal Masjid administration on Tuesday relaunched its website on an international domain two days after it was blocked by the government. Earlier, the government said it had blocked the website and a radio station of Lal Masjid. We have blocked the website of Lal Masjid and also blocked the radio station, Deputy Information Minister Tariq Azeem told AFP. We will block anything that promotes religious hatred, calls for suicide attacks - this cannot be tolerated. Meanwhile, Lal Masid has released an audio CD titled Hamara Moaqaf. The CD contains the chief clerics speeches and demonstrations by girl students of Jamia Hafsa.
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Ghazi Abdul Rashid, the deputy administrator of Jamia Hafsa and younger brother of Lal Masjid Imam Maulana Abdul Aziz, has said he is ready to embrace martyrdom if the government decides to use force to bring the radical clerics in line.
We are ready for shahadat (martyrdom). Our shahadat will give impetus to the mission we have launched for the enforcement of Sharia in the country, Ghazi said in an interview with Daily Times on Tuesday. Government officials including President Gen Pervez Musharraf have said they want to resolve the standoff with the Lal Masjid and its madrassas peacefully, and Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, president of the Pakistan Muslim League, met the Lal Masjid imam and his brother last Sunday, but Ghazi said formal negotiations were yet to begin.
The dialogue is yet to start. The meeting with Shujaat was an informal one. Shujaat noted our demands and promised to respond after consulting the highest quarters. We have not yet received any response, Ghazi said.
Ghazi claimed that Shujaat seconded the clerics demands and termed them justified. He maintained that many people, including students from across the country, were contacting the Jamia Hafsa to offer their support. He said students of the Federal Urdu University had put up a banner at Lal Masjid voicing their support for the madrassa students.
He said the madrassa students push for enforcement of Sharia in Pakistan was spontaneous. We dont have any leader and clear-cut organisational structure of this movement, however it is crystal clear that the movement is on and we want to bring a change in society, said Ghazi.
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He said the madrassa students push for enforcement of Sharia in Pakistan was spontaneous. We dont have any leader and clear-cut organisational structure of this movement, however it is crystal clear that the movement is on and we want to bring a change in society, said Ghazi.
It was not spontaneous. You do have a leader and you're just not yet ready to reveal your organizational structure. Perhaps the "organization" feels there will be hesitation in killing hundreds of teenage girls.
TOKYO - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Al Maliki on Tuesday rejected demands by the US Congress for a timetable to pull out US troops, saying the withdrawal should be based on the reality on the ground.
The Dhimmicrats will immediately dismiss him as irrelevant; after all, he's only the prime minister.
Maliki said his government was working to improve security to make it possible for US and other foreign troops to leave. We see no need for a withdrawal timetable because we are working as fast as we can, Maliki told a news conference on a visit to Tokyo. We feel what will govern the departure of the multinational forces are the achievements and victories we manage to obtain on the ground and not a timetable, he said.
Maliki insisted the troops would leave eventually. The departure of the multinational forces is definite. There are no arguments on this issue, Maliki said. The international resolution authorised the Iraqi government to ask for the departure of the multinational forces when it feels that it can provide enough security for the country. We are progressing on the security issue continuously, he said.
Maliki, a member of Iraqs Shia majority who were oppressed under Saddam Hussein, blamed the media for only focusing on the daily violence in Iraq. Maybe it is natural that the ugliness of blood will overshadow the elements of progress. But I can give you many examples of progress, Maliki said. We have a permanent constitution after living for decades with temporary constitutions and the entire country being subjected to the whims of a ruler. On the economic side, the monthly income of the average Iraqi has risen from two dollars to 200 dollars per month since the 2003 invasion, he said.
It's unfortunate that GWB isn't saying all this as well, and repeatedly, and loudly.
Following the collapse of the regime, all security collapsed with it, but now we can say we have a reliable army that has taken many recruits from the old army but added new blood to it.
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Maliki already has his 'get out' ticket stamped! Should the US pull out, he will seek asylum and leave in the last helicopter. He's been a 'good boy' and the US's compassion will keep him from swinging by a rope!
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Maliki is a self-fulfilling prophecy. This turd causes far more problems than he solves. His mere existence necessitates our continued presence in Iraq. Capping his traitorous ass would do everybody a huge favor.
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"Maliki said his government was working to improve security to make it possible for US and other foreign troops to leave."
Yet a large chunk of Iraqis see Americans as occupiers who deserve to be attacked. What is his government doing to change that-for that matter, what are other Iraqi leaders or Arab leaders doing to change that? When the overall populace is keeping a spirit of violence alive in their hearts, mayhem can continue endlessly. Zenster is correct in that respect.
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Let's NOT cap his ass, Zen. That's the Diem solution, circa 1963, and look how well that turned out.
Mr. Maliki has more balls than most folks in Iraq. He's a walking target. He may not be the George Washington of his country, but he's the elected prime minister and he's who we'll deal with, good or bad, until their next election.
And good or bad, he understands completely that a timetable would be a disaster for his country. And said so. Publicly. I can't ask for much more.
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I would ask for more. How about either Maliki or W saying, "A timetable for withdrawal is a plan for our defeat. Those who push this are working for the other side." And say it over and over and over again.
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SOME folks might say, that Maliki being against a timetable, is like the NEA being against NCLB. I mean one of the few good arguments for a timetable (though it doesnt make sense for an unconditional timetable) is that its needed to get Maliki to do what needs to be done.
WHEN he has passed the oil deal and the debathification reform deal through the IRaqi parliament, and WHEN he has somewhat more openly turned away from Sadr and cleansed the Iraqi admin of Sadrists, THEN he will have a lot more credibility.
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Yeah, why should we pay attention to the duely elected Prime Minister of a sovereign nation?
Maliki's release of Iranian agents, shutdown of control check points and other assorted actions have only served to increase American troop fatalities. That's where I draw the line. Democratically elected or not, the bastard is a terrorist facilitator and he is no better than the democratically elected turds known as Hamas.
Iraqs president has apologised to Turkey for recent Iraqi Kurdish threats to fan separatist unrest in Turkeys mainly Kurdish southeast, the Turkish prime ministers office said on Tuesday. President Jalal Talabani of Iraq telephoned Turkeys Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan late on Monday to express regret over the latest statements by Massud Barzani, Erdogans spokesman, Mehmet Akif Beki, told AFP. Beki added that Talabani underlined that they place great importance to ties with Turkey. Talabani said they were ready to fight against the PKK as part of a common plan with Ankara, the spokesman added.
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Talabani said they were ready to fight against the PKK as part of a common plan with Ankara, the spokesman added.
IIRC Hell that's something different eh? since Iraqi Freedom this is the first time Talabani has made such a public statement visa vi PKK and fighting with Turkey NO? Yes? [they've fought plenty before Iraqi freedom]
RAMALLAH, West Bank - The Palestinian Authority is operating on a quarter of the funds it needs to finance its activities, Finance Minister Salam Fayyad said on Tuesday before embarking on a trip abroad to drum up aid.
Minimally, I estimate expenditures of the Palestinian Authority at $160 million a month at present. What we have is no more than $40 million a month, Fayyad told Reuters. Clearly this is not something that can be sustained.
Not without renouncing terrorism and recognizing Israel's right to exist, you mean.
The EU, the largest aid donor to the Palestinians, has made resumption of direct aid conditional on a Palestinian administration reflecting [Quartet demands]. Despite the embargo on direct aid to the administration, EU assistance to the Palestinians increased last year to 700 million euros from around 500 million. Of this 200 million euros went through a temporary aid mechanism set up last year to channel funds to keep essential state services running while bypassing the government.
Thus funding the gunnies and the Widows Ammunition Fund.
This article starring:
SALAM FAIYAD
Palestinian Authority
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It took eight workers at Sane Sports Wears (India), led by Thomas Vargis, 105 hours to produce a suitcase measuring 4,07 m x 2,67 m x 1,27 m and weighting 200 kg in February 1999.
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The Palestinian Authority is operating on a quarter of the funds it needs to finance its activities
In a totally unconnected yet remarkable coincidence, Israeli casulties due to Palestinian terrorist activities were down by 75%. The Quartet's world-class analysts are still puzzling over the circumstances surrounding this mysterious and wholly unexpected anomaly.
Jordans King Abdullah II urged Israel to end its occupation of Arab land to guarantee peaceful co-existence with the worlds Muslims and warned against a hasty US troop pullout from Iraq, in an interview with AFP on Tuesday.
Israel, the European states and the United States should realise that the Palestinian issue does not only concern the Palestinians but also has the sympathy of all Muslims from Indonesia to the Maghreb states, he said.
If Israel wants to co-exist with more than a billion Muslims, it should end its occupation of Palestinian and Arab lands.
If Israel wants to co-exist with more than a billion Muslims, it should end its occupation of Palestinian and Arab lands.
The king also urged the Israeli people to accept an Arab peace plan adopted at a summit in Saudi Arabia last month, saying it reflects collective Arab will to build peace that puts an end to years of violence and suffering. They also should acknowledge that this is a unique opportunity in the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict and that it is time they work to convince their leaders of the need to resume peace negotiations, he said.
Asked to comment on remarks by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert who said peace could be possible within five years, the king said: Peace can be reached during a much shorter time, if goodwill prevails.
This opportunity may not be available in the future, he said, reiterating that solving the Palestinian question and the issue of refugees were central to a comprehensive solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
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That would work, since the Arabs claim it all.
We could end this permanent donnybrook by giving the Isrealis Northern California for a homeland.... Current NoCals could move to Palestine where they'd be more comfortable with the government.
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Won't work. I'm sure some muzzie farted in Northern California making it muslim land forever.
This translates to: Peace -- as long as the Jews give up Israel, are good little Dhimmi's, and pay their special tax (in humiliation) and live as 4th class citizens.
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Myself, I wonder when Israel will have leaders smart/gutsy enough to end Hashemite occupation of Palestinian land, and Palestinian occupation of the Land of Israel.
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'Israel must quit Arab land to co-exist with Muslims'
When one considers how coexistence with Islam is entirely impossible, to "quit Arab land" takes on an altogether different meaning. My vote is for making the Arabs "quit" instead. How unpleasant the process must be is completely up to them. So far, all indications are that extreme unpleasantness will be required. Muslims really should spend some quality time considering how best to avoid turning Islam into a historical footnote.
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Many Arabs believe that since Spain was once under Arabic control it too should be considered as Arab land. It is part of the Islamic imperialist doctrine which leads to total Muslim world domination in their dark dreams.
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Coexistence with Muslims *is* possible, but you must change the paradigm of *how* you coexist with them.
That is, you must never, ever, offer them anything as a reward for good behavior. This is because they see this as a sign of weakness.
Instead, you must begin by taking away some of their land, because the keeping of "Muslim land", and the gaining of more land, they believe to be their strongest religious duty.
Once you have taken some of their land, you must be crystal clear to them that they will *never* get that land back, that it is non-negotiable, and Muslim rule over that land has ended forever.
And *then*, you must threaten to take even *more* of their land if they do not behave.
Though they will scream bloody murder when they do this, and continually connive to gain their land back and get more, it will move the debate to endless argument, away from violence. Because they will be too afraid of losing more land to be violent.
And yet, they will never forget that they once owned that land; so you can never forget that they can never get it back.
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I have a better idea. Invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert the people to Christianity (excepting Jews, Buddhists, Jains, wiccans, Scientologists, Raelians are other relatively sensible folk).
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Surely the Jews lived in Jerusalem and surrounding areas long before the muzzies did or am i missing something?????
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Of course you're right, Paul -- there's archaeological evidence been found in Israel of the ruling House of David dating to about 100 years after the Bible says King David was actually on the throne (about 1000 BC). But the Arab Muslims have been busily rewriting history, and anyway they believe that it was ordained by Allah that the entire world was given to them - all who preceded them were only temporary placeholders. Actual evidence proves nothing to them.
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All the donkey hypes from the West cannot change the nature of Jordans King Abdullah II's islamo mind. He'll keep blathering like as if talking sense.
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One of these days, Israel is going to elect a totally insane, crazy extremist who's going to nuke Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Soddy Arabida, and a half-dozen other places. The world will condemn them, try their best to isolate them, and call the pariahs. After 30 or 40 years and the world begins to notice that acts of terrorism have greatly diminished, that muzzies aren't demanding everything in sight every five minutes, the few with firing synapses will begin to put two and two together, and wonder why it took Israel doing what the West should have done to end the threat of muzzie terrorism. Israel, however, will NEVER be vindicated - that would be too "humiliating".
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After 30 or 40 years and the world begins to notice that acts of terrorism have greatly diminished, that muzzies aren't demanding everything in sight every five minutes
Whatever it takes to bring this about will be worth it. Islam will never bring itself to heel. Only an already bloodied sword of Damocles held in continuous suspension above Islam's head will serve as a sufficient reminder for them to abandon their quest of Global Jihad.
Palestinian prime minister Ismail Haniya said on Tuesday that the ball was in Israels camp over a prisoner exchange deal for a soldier held by Gaza militants. We are serious in our will to proceed with an exchange and we hope that negotiations will lead to the freeing of our detainees from the prisons of the Israeli occupier, Haniya told reporters in Gaza City. The ball is in Israels camp and everything now depends on the answer that Israel will give to the just Palestinian demand to free our prisoners, he said.
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From the post above Ima figure Baal is still in Hamas Camp.
Iran has at least 20 missiles that could strike targets in Europe.
A leading U.S. missile analyst said Iran has acquired an arsenal of BM-25 intermediate-range missiles that could strike Europe. Riki Ellison, president of the Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance, said the U.S. missile defense umbrella was insufficient to protect against Iranian missiles.
"Iran has over 20 intermediate-range missiles that can reach continental Europe," Ellison said. "These 20 BM-25 missiles were purchased from North Korea in 2005 and are a variant of the Soviet SS-N-6 submarine-launched ballistic missile. With a range beyond 3,000 kilometers, these missiles pose a direct threat to central Europe."
In late February 2007, Iran launched a sub-orbit missile that traveled 150 kilometers into space. Ellison said this could mark a milestone in Iran's efforts to achieve intercontinental ballistic missile capability.
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Netters are still speculating in mil boards that Iran may had purchased dual-capable/use [read -nuke-capable] missles last year from UKRAINE.
RUSSIA > Missles probably/likely purchased from Ukraine last year [2006].
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The EU needs a wakeup call. If an EU financed Iran is obliged to provide it, so much the better. Please forgive the graphic description, but once the EU is made into Iran's prison-wife, maybe then they'll learn to show some appreciation for all we've done. Until then, they need several major pimpslaps.
Political tension escalated in Lebanon Monday as leaders of the parliamentary majority lashed at Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah accusing him of seeking to set up his own state in the multi-sect nation and defending assumed culprits in the assassination of former PM Rafik Hariri.
The attacks came hours after a speech by Nasrallah in which he pledged a half century of Hezbollah influence, attacked the international tribunal that would try suspects in the 2005 Hariri assassination and related crimes and defended four generals jailed in connection with the crime. Democratic gathering leader Walid Jumblatt said Hezbollah's "weapons, arsenal, institutes and security zones are the main obstacles that prevent the creation of a strong state" in Lebanon. Nasrallah's rejection of the international tribunal, Jumblatt said, reflects efforts by Syria to "retain control of Lebanon's politics, constitution and institutions." Nothing gets by Wally, does it?
He said Syria, which dominated Lebanon for nearly 30 years before withdrawing its troops in April 2005 after the Hariri assassination, "seeks to retain control of Lebanon through Hezbollah." He said Nasrallah was facing "a problem" because of U.N. Security Council resolution 1701 which ended a 34-day war between the party and Israel last August. The resolution "prevents the Syrian and Iranian regimes from carrying out their maneuvers in the south Lebanon arena," he said in reference to Hezbollah which is banned by the U.N. measure from maintaining fighters in a 23-kilometer deep zone south of the Litani River.
Jumblatt also charged some Lebanese security agencies of "smuggling in hundreds of Iraqis from Syria."
"What is the aim of such a move? Does it aim at carrying out political assassinations or to carry out acts of sabotage?" Jumblatt asked.
Several MPs from the Parliamentary majority also accused Nasrallah of defending alleged culprits in the Hariri assassination and related crimes. The Hezbollah leader also was charged with sabotaging chances of a settlement to the ongoing Lebanese crisis. "Nasrallah announces the death of the (national) dialogue, ruling out civil war," the Daily al-Hayat wrote.
Nasrallah on Sunday said Hezbollah was no longer interested in a 19-11 formula, a reference to the number of ministers in a new national unity government. "If we were to choose between civil war and keeping the situation this way for a limited period of time, we prefer to continue with this state of affairs (stalemate)," he said.
Nasrallah attacked the international tribunal, saying it was designed to announce ready-made verdicts against certain suspects in the Hariri murder and related crimes.
Communications minister Marwan Hemadeh called Hezbollah speech a long list of failures by the opposition following the war with Israel. Hemadeh told LBC that the opposition failed badly in its attempt to bring down the government despite their protest and the sit- in in down town Beirut and the violence that accompanied all this. He said all this was a waste of time and didnt yield any results for the opposition. Hemadeh repeated his call for dialogue, saying it is the only solution for Lebanons problems.
Al Mustaqbal newspaper, mouthpiece of MP Saad Hariri's political group that carries the same title, retorted on its front page that Nasrallah had "uncovered his mask and the hidden (truth) by rejecting the international tribunal and by defending the suspects involved (in the Hariri killing), and labeling them political prisoners."
In a televised speech to 1,700 Hezbollah university graduates, Nasrallah said the four Lebanese generals jailed in connection with the Hariri crime were "political prisoners" in Lebanon. He was referring to former Director General of the Surete Generale's Security Department Gen. Jamil as-Sayyed, former commander of the Internal Security Forces Gen. Ali el-Hajj, former Presidential Guards commander Brig. Gen. Mustafa Hamdan and former director of army intelligence Raymond Azar. Nasrallah was also accused of trying to "control the whole of Lebanon for the interest of Syria and Iran."
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1700 Hezbollah University Graduates.
Majors:
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1 in World History with minor in Islamic Studies (but he subsequently died at the graduation activities after being accused of being a US stooge)
Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea lashed out at Hezbollah chief Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah Tuesday, accusing him of "cheating" the Lebanese and blocking the formation of a strong state. Geagea, addressing a news conference, also accused Nasrallah of trying to carry out an agenda aimed at creating a global Islamic state that contradicts with the essence of pluralist Lebanon. "We will not allow either Hezbollah or any other power to control our destiny and our children's destiny," Geagea announced in an apparent response to a pledge of a half century of Hezbollah influence that Nasrallah made in a speech Sunday.
Addressing Nasrallah, Geagea said: "you are not allowing the rise of the state, you are blocking our march a capable state cannot rise if it is surrounded by armed militias. We don't want armed factions alongside the state any more. We want the state. The state cannot rise if it is surrounded by armed groups."
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they did it starting in 1975 by the use of some good old fashioned "Ethnic Cleansing".
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mojo - don't bet on a western nuclear retaliation strike. First, there would be denials as to who actually set off the nuke. Then there would be demands for 'proof' to the UN. Then there would be pleas from all quarters to exercise restraint and avoid escalation and further inhumane casualties. There would be concessions to the Mullahs by all parties. There would be a period of adjustment - maybe a decade - and then the cycle would repeat.
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From a practical point of view, he adds, "using WMDs against America and its allies will provoke them... to aim a painful blow at Muslims, and this time not with conventional weapons but with WMDs."
Which represents the single most important reason for avoiding first-use of nuclear weapons in the MME (Muslim Middle East). However ineffectual nuclear deterrence might seem, we owe it to ourselves to hold such retaliation in abeyance, so that it can be employed as a measured response to renewed terrorist atrocities.
"If bin Laden and his associates wish to respond [to the U.S. attacks] in kind, they should go out and [confront] the evil troops on the battlefield. However, they are not permitted to target unarmed civilians.... men, women, children and elderly people. This is... not permitted by Islamic law."
Yet continues on with revolting regularity and in far greater measure than Coalition troops are responsible for. Until Muslims refrain from killing each other with such abandon, they have no right to accuse the West of misdeeds.
"The essence of the article.... is that the U.S. bears no responsibility for the killing of Muslim children... And [even in cases] where it is proven that the U.S has killed Muslim women, children and elderly, [the article stipulates that it is permissible] to take revenge only on the one [directly] responsible for the killing... This is a distortion. [The article] laughs in Muslims' faces... It essentially [misrepresents] some of the [texts] it quotes from the Koran and the sunna..."
In light of how frequently the Koran exhorts its followers to commit violence against the Infidel, Im inclined to agree with this commentator. Especially with the, laughs in Muslim faces part. These screwballs just arent happy if blood isnt flowing in the gutters somewhere.
But in reality, this distinction is false!!!... The amount of destruction... and the number of deaths to Muslim civilians - women, children, and the elderly - caused by the... conventional weapons used by the U.S. throughout its years-long Crusader war against Islam is equivalent to the [extent of death and destruction] caused by WMDs!!... The destructive power of the one-ton bombs dropped on Afghanistan alone is greater than that of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima... The ignorant writer should consider this fact!!!" [submitted by a commenter]
Go ahead, test your damned theory. See just how desirable it is to have your landscape irradiated for 1,000 years. Keep pushing and youll get a chance to find out.
"It is clear that the elected American government..., the military and civil organizations associated with it, and [the American] nation [as a whole] legally constitute 'a single individual' [submitted by a commenter]
It is precisely this sort of Islamic thinking that must drive American adoption of collective punishment. Far too many jihadists make no discrimination between combatants and civilians. We must eventually drop any attempt to do so ourselves. The ummah must begin taking body blows that convince it of just how foolhardy war against the West really is.
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don't bet on a western nuclear retaliation strike. First, there would be denials as to who actually set off the nuke.
Don't bet against nuclear retaliation either. The vast majority of countries with nuclear technology participate in the IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency). Part of this membership includes submitting samples of isotopes from purification facilities and reactor cores. Using mass spectroscopy, we can usually identify radioavctive material right down to the individual reactor it came from. Each atomic facility has a unique "fingerprint" or isotopic signature that permits this.
After a given strike, analysis of fallout would either identify a specific location of origin or indicate that its refinement occured in one of a very small handfull of non-cooperating rogue regimes. Should analysis prove inconclusive, it would point to the participation of a rogue regime. Under such circumstances, it would be no great moralistic leap to simply apply nuclear retaliation against those rogue nations (i.e., North Korea, Iran and, maybe, Pakistan).
A far more sticky wicket is what happens if the fallout signature indicates a terrorist bomb is of Russian origin. That is when all Hell breaks loose and one can only hope that Putin is vividly aware of the consequences for such treachery.
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Glenmore, in the days or even hours following a nuclear strike on the US whatever remained of the administration would undertake immediate retaliation or face political doom. The people would demand it, consequences be damned. I am sure that the media would do as you are saying, but to their great surprise, they do not run the country.
A nuclear strike with tens or hundreds of thousands of American dead has a way of clarifying things. Pangs of guilt are not going to be high on the list.
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don't bet on a western nuclear retaliation strike. First, there would be denials as to who actually set off the nuke. Then there would be demands for 'proof' to the UN. Then there would be pleas from all quarters to exercise restraint and avoid escalation and further inhumane casualties. There would be concessions to the Mullahs by all parties. There would be a period of adjustment - maybe a decade - and then the cycle would repeat.
Don't kid yourself. The only thing you would hear is the sound of
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Zenster, how quickly could the isotope analysis be done following the explosion?
I suspect that if the nuke came from a missile, the flight path would have been recorded by our satellites or something, and the launchpoint pinpointed. If the bomb were smuggled in, there are only a few countries/organizations that would even attempt such a thing, and they are all interconnected, which by jihadi logic as quoted in the article means all of them share the guilt. And, only two groups have openly threatened such behaviour: Al Qaeda, which was founded by Pakistan's ISI, and Iran's ruling mullahs. Easy peasy: retaliate against Pakistan's nuclear facilities, the tribal areas along Afghanistan's border, and Iran. The other rogues can be gotten in the second round.
All good points, but I guarantee you if somebody pops off a nuke in the US, somebody somewhere is gonna fry. Possibly more than one. You do NOT get away with that shit, period.
Letting these morons think anything else is just "destabilizing", as they useta say.
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Analysis should only require several hours. Confirmation runs would be needed to assure consisten results, so it might stretch to an entire day.
As you yourself observe, tw, incoming ballistic tracks would make immediate retaliation a dead cert. Covert attack would instantly indict Iran and Pakistan or North Korea. Regardless, in such an event all three should be glassed and Windexed out of sheer principal. If only as encourager pour les autres.
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TW, I think it would take longer to collect the samples and get them to a high-ress mass spec facility than it would to do the analysis once there.
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As clarification: I agree with remoteman, any political party that did not immediately retaliate against a nuclear attack on American soil would instantly become irrelevant. The lamp posts would beckon irresistibly.
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And as far as I'm concerned, "immediately retaliate" means within minutes-- not hours or days or weeks. Pakistan, Iran, the NorKs, and the Sauds. If we get nuked, fry 'em up. ALL OF 'EM.
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It's extremely difficult to argue with your logic, Dave D.. I can only wonder if America will ever again have leadership capable of such swift decision-making. However overvalued concensus most certainly is which the Bush administration is direct proof of it still remains far too popular to imagine that any leader from either side of the aisle would undertake America's defense without first deferring to this immensely overrated political tool.
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"I can only wonder if America will ever again have leadership capable of such swift decision-making."
Well, "ever again" covers a possibly very long time span.
Certainly, the timid, ineffectual leadership we have now would not be capable of it. It has tired, it has faltered, and it appears to be on the brink of failing. Too much nice guy, too much blind faith in the magical curing powers of freedom and democracy, too much inappropriate respect for international institutions, too much goddamn patience with "allies" who are allies in name only, and too much reliance on "diplomacy". And a gross deficiency of ruthlessness and sheer will to win.
We aren't going to get that kind of decisiveness out of any President the Democrats could possibly put forth, either-- not even the Ur-Bitch herself.
I've been doing a lot of thinking lately along the lines of "Where are we headed with this thing? What is most likely to happen over the next couple of years? Given what we've seen so far, how is this struggle against Islam likely to play out?"
I don't think too fast, so I'm still working on it; but I don't like what my crystal ball is showing me. Not one bit.
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And let me add that I think even Glenmore is being optimistic. :(
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Let me know where another Eisenhower or Truman can be found amongst the flotsam and jetsam of America's political landscape and I'll take back that "ever again". The poison of Political Correctness and Multiculturalism has polluted not just this nation's moral water table but is corroding the bedrock of its very character.
How in Hell can any towering leadership spring forth from such salted earth?
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Zenster, as I wrote earlier, a nuke cooking off in one's own country will have a clarifying effect. It will likely rouse emotions that almost all of our current political leadership have not felt, ever, in their lives. That is the real fear and awareness of death. Self preservation combined with rage and profound grief over the loss of loved ones, friends and countrymen can force profound change very quickly. It can make even the hardcore Dems forget the teachings of Joe Stalin, at least for a while. And for those who are not hardcore, our enemy will be revealed, in an up close and personal way, to be shown as the utter animals they are. Dehumanized in this way the decision to slaughter them will come rather easily.
It is all a horror almost too awful to contemplate, but contemplate it we must. Our enemy is forcing us to do so.
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If a nuke goes off in this country there will be a whole lot of leftards screaming it was a Bush 'Gulf of Tonkin' to re-energize his racist campaign against Islam and the browner peoples of the world. Count on it.
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RWV, about 15 million Americans (and their guest workers), including me, lots of 9/11 victims' families, FDNY firefighters, etc., live within 40 miles of Turtle Bay. Let's not get crazy and encourage the terrorists to nuke the UN in New York. I'd prefer it if the UN dies of suicide or old age, not murder.
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if a nuke goes off - our standard of "civil restraint" is waived, and a leftard will be actively seeking medical care (hopefully denied) around me.
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yea I hate the UN to, but I wouldn't want the people around it to die, so we demolish it ourselves and build Condos.:)
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It is all a horror almost too awful to contemplate, but contemplate it we must. Our enemy is forcing us to do so.
Word, remoteman. The inability of America, particularly the Left, to consider fully the implications of nuclear terrorism make possible many extra layers of misplaced sympathy and inappropriate conspiracy theories.
If a nuke goes off in this country there will be a whole lot of leftards screaming it was a Bush 'Gulf of Tonkin' to re-energize his racist campaign against Islam and the browner peoples of the world. Count on it.
Glenmore, are you having a major bout of cynicism these days? I know that I am, but you're really pegging the needle. Worst of all, as Dave D. already noted, is how difficult it is to counter your own points.
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Nuke goes off here, their better be few countries glowing in the dark or a whole bunch of political leaders are going to get hanged.
Like I said, djohn66, the lamp posts will beckon irresistibly should inaction by our leaders seem a viable option. Confronted with such a revolting turn of events, I can only hope that America's military leadership will override any spineless executive stand-down and release a nuclear response of their own accord.
More than anyone, the Chiefs of Staff had damn well better have a thorough understanding of how many troops would be lost in an attempt to retaliate through conventional means when a Response-In-Kind is demanded. America's soldiers deserve that much, at least.
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We aren't going to get that kind of decisiveness out of any President the Democrats could possibly put forth, either-- not even the Ur-Bitch herself.
Actually, IMHO, Hildebeast would go ballistic so fast that it would be just a blur. She's got an ample supply of vindictiveness that would kick in, overlying any remnants of rationality she purportedly possesses. The other side of the coin may be that she would not think twice (or at all) or wait for a confirmation, which may make things a bit messier for days after, compared with a president capable of strategic thinking.
Other Donks--may be a different cup of coffee...
Just to preempt any suspicion that I'd be okay with Hildebeast as president => hell no! There are many other things to consider.
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Don't fergit, any Amer Hiroshima(s) is ideally intended to be a "justified" response agz US imperialism + aggression + "arrogance", etc.
i.e. "AMERICA DESERVED TO BE ATTACKED";
+ Amerikans of the USSA/USR = USA can't be allowed to fight any nuke war, LIMITED OR FULL, potentially involving Russia-China on the side of Iran. Post-Hiroshima Amer must be prevented from employing its full milpol might = OTH force projection(s). Mainstream Amers must be "liberated" from their "Fascist" = Rightist Socialist bully-captors by our Motherly Leftist Socialists heroes.
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No cheating in line to be first to the Gulags = Death Chambers - iff we don't commit self-suicide widout demanding any explanation, it only proves our sinister Amerikan Rightist evil and corruptions worthy of Amer being attacked + wiped out by the "world community". D ***ng it, CAPITALISM + DEMOCRACY ISN'T STRONG ENUFF TO STOP GLOBAL WARMING!
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