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Afghanistan
Votes of 35 Polling Centres Declared Invalid
[Tolo News] Independent Election Commission (IEC) Wednesday declared votes of 35 polling centres invalid and said votes of 30 other centres will be recounted

In total, frauds and violations have been committed in 125 polling centres all over the country.

The front man for the IEC, Noor Mohammad Noor, remarked that the partial counting results of 17 provinces have been declared and results of the three other provinces, including northern Badakhshan province, Kabul and Balkh are likely to be announced tomorrow.

However,
The infamous However...
there is no less than a week left for the announcement of primary results of the Afghan parliamentary poll, and the commission says ballots of the 22 polling centres that were announced suspicious were recounted in presence of representatives from Electoral Complaints Commission (ECC) and are under the IEC investigation.

"Tomorrow some three provinces' partial vote count results will probably be announced," the IEC front man, Mr Noor said. "Votes of 125 polling centres in which frauds and violations have happened, is divided into three categories, the first category is declared invalid by the IEC board, the second category will be recounted and the third one will be reviewed."

Meanwhile,
...back at the ranch...
24 people accused of using forged cards and being involved in electoral fraud have been jugged in three different provinces.

The Afghan Senate House urged that election frauds and violations should strictly be pursued.

Some parliamentary election candidates and a number of Afghan citizens have raised concerns about huge fraud and violations, fearing it would negatively affect the elections process and put its credibility under question.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Votes of 35 Polling Centres Declared Invalid

Translation, Our guy didn't get enough votes, "Recount" until he does.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/30/2010 5:05 Comments || Top||


Afghan Govt Strongly Rejects Recent Remarks of Hamid Gul
[Tolo News] The Afghan government Wednesday strongly rejected the remarks made by the former chief of Pakistain's ISI organisation and called it a comment out of illness
Hamid's a pretty sick pup, alright...
In an exclusive interview with TOLOnews, the front man for President Karzai said the comments made by Gen. Hamid Gul
... the nutty former head of Pakistain's ISI, now Godfather to Mullah Omar's Talibs and good buddy to al-Qaeda's high command...
is an obvious support of the insurgency and the Pakistain government should prevent such comments.

While describing the Afghan government as puppet and calling President Karzai as traitor, Gen. Hamid Gul has said the formation of high council of peace will not have any positive impact.

"As a government that has repeatedly made its commitment to the Afghans in the fight against insurgency, Pakistain should shoot him prevent such irresponsible comments," Mr Omar said.

In reaction to the formation of the high peace council, the retired Pak military official has said that once again the Taliban will return to power in Afghanistan.

The Taliban should not only be referred to as Taliban. They represent national resistance of Afghans. Hekmatyar and other mujahiddin leaders are with the Taliban fighting for one cause, Gen. Hamid Gul has said.

On the other hand, the Washington Post quoted from a newly published book (Obama's Wars) by a well-known American journalist, that President B.O. will not tolerate Taliban and al-Qaeda's sanctuaries in Pakistain.

Top Afghan officials have consistently accused Pak military officials of interfering in Afghanistan's internal affairs and the remarks by the top former Pak military figure supports such claims.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  At least we know where he stands unlike the Pak Govt or Army who say one thing in Private and another in Public.

They are basically whores to the highest bidder!
Posted by: Paul D || 09/30/2010 16:48 Comments || Top||


Afghan Peace Impossible Unless Foreign Forces Leave: Hamid Gul
[Tolo News] The establishment of peace in Afghanistan is not possible unless foreign forces leave the country, Gen. Hamid Gul
... the nutty former head of Pakistain's ISI, now Godfather to Mullah Omar's Talibs and good buddy to al-Qaeda's high command...
, the former ISI chief told BBC Persian in a recent interview published on Tuesday

General Hamid Gul, the former chief of Pakistain's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI),
... and the poster boy for "implausible deniability"...
made these comments in reaction to the announcement of the establishment of the High Council of Peace by the Afghan government.

Gen. Hamid Gul
(ret'd), (let us not forget that critical fact, dear Readers)
described the government of Afghanistan and its members as puppets and added that the establishment of the High Council of Peace meant to start peace deals with the Taliban will have no positive results.

He also said that Taliban will regain political power in Afghanistan soon.
For a given value of soon that means not in the foreseeable future, given the number of well-armed parties which are fighting over control of various bits of the Afghan countryside.
"They have urged the foreign forces to come to Afghanistan and invade the country," Gull said pointing out to Afghan authorities. "This is unforgivable and the Taliban will not be ready to negotiate with them. The Taliban should not be called just Taliban; they represent the national resistance of Afghans. Hekmatyar and a number of other Mujahidden are with the Taliban fighting with them side by side," he said.
But on the Pakistani side of the border. And anyway, the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan have taken on much broader responsibilities recently: first Mumbai, and now, apparently, Western Europe. I don't know how you'll keep them down on the farm now they've seen Gay Paree in their sights...
He called Karzai "a traitor in the views of the Afghans" and said the High Council of Peace will end with no results.

Hamid Gul said The United States must start peace talks with the anti-government forces in order to maintain long-term peace and stability in Afghanistan.
How many centuries is it since there was long-term peace and stability in Afghanistan? Surely at some point since the Persians were overthrown, someone must have been able to reestablish some sort of actual order...But assuredly not since Pakistan began mucking about in the neighborhood.
"Barack B.O. Obama must talk with Mullah Omar. This is the only solution to the Afghan crisis. Who are the Coalition and NATO forces? They are the invaders. They must all leave Afghanistan and this is the demand of Mullah Omar and the anti-government forces," said Gul.
That's nice, dear. Here, have a teething biscuit -- you'll feel much better in a moment, I promise.
Hamid Gul said Afghanistan will not turn into the core of a civil war once again since Afghan government authorities have earned enough money and properties and have looted Afghanistan and the International Community's aid that are the absolute rights of the Afghan nation.
Umm, Hamid... have you been getting into the opium stocks again?
"They have bank accounts abroad and they are about five to six hundred individuals," he said.

Hamid Gul denied the interference of Pakistain's ISI in Afghanistan's internal affairs, and also indirectly expressed satisfaction that Amrulllah Saleh, the former head of the National Directorate of Security of Afghanistan, who had anti-Pakistain tendencies had been sacked.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  How about this headline: Afghan Peace Impossible No Matter What Anybody Does
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/30/2010 3:41 Comments || Top||

#2  We all know he is the poster boy for the Islamic insurgency but whats in it for him?

Money from the Saudis?
Posted by: Paul2 || 09/30/2010 7:16 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Charges against IIROSA a bunch of lies, says Al-Turki
[Arab News] The International Islamic Relief Organization Saudi Arabia (IIROSA) has stepped up efforts with the help of US attorneys to clear its name in the highly-publicized terror-funding case filed by the families of people who died in the 9/11 attacks.

This was disclosed by Abdullah Al-Turki, chairman of the IIROSA's board of directors who is also secretary-general of the Makkah-based Mohammedan World League (MWL), and Adnan Khalil Basha, IIROSA's secretary-general, in separate interviews.

Al-Turki and Basha both made their comments on the sidelines of a reception hosted by the MWL for foreign diplomats at the Cultural Palace in Riyadh's Diplomatic Quarter. The event was attended by a large number of Saudi officials and foreign diplomats. It also included a visual presentation explaining the role and activities of the MWL and the IIROSA.

"We are dedicated to humanitarian activities to support the needy and have been closely working with major local, international and UN aid agencies ... Our operations are transparent ... we are working in daylight," said Al-Turki who referred to the charges as a "bunch of lies."

He added that truth would eventually prevail as is evident from the fact that US courts have already cleared some Islamic charities. The now-defunct Al-Haramain Foundation, which was based in Riyadh, was acquitted along with several Saudi aid organizations and philanthropists by a New York court earlier this month.

Basha said the IIROSA has not been acquitted and that "only two of its operations -- the Philippines and Indonesian branches -- have been falsely accused of involvement in terror funding."

These two branches were identified as "Specially Designated Global Terrorist" entities by the US Treasury Department, a move that empowers US agencies and cooperating global agencies to freeze the organization's assets.

The secretary-general denied that IIROSA has been involved in terrorist activities, adding that the case against IIROSA has been in court for nine years.

Basha said the charity has signed an agreement with the Paleostinian Authority to open a chapter there that will mainly focus on social welfare programs like sponsoring orphans and distributing small loans among families. "We are waiting for the green light from the Paleostinians," he said, adding that the branch should be operational by the end of the year.

He also said that the charity has been helping Paleostinians through the United Nations, aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) and other international aid agencies. The UNRWA's general commissioner, Peter Ford, met Basha at his office in Jeddah early this year and appreciated IIROSA's concern for Paleostinian people.

"We are currently sponsoring some 19,000 orphans worldwide ... and have set up 31 academic institutions including schools in different countries where enrollment exceeds 30,000 students," he said, adding that the IIROSA has a presence in 32 countries.

The charity is a MWL-affiliate created by a royal decree on Jan. 29, 1979. It is a member of the International Islamic Council for Dawa and Relief (IICDR) and holds an observer status at the OIC.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Bahrain blames unrest on outside parties
[Al Arabiya] Shiite muscle jugged for anti-regime activities were trained and financed abroad, Bahrain's foreign minister charged in an interview published Wednesday, while insisting he was not blaming Iran.
Not blaming Iran as such, merely identifying several parties, like the Revolutionary Guard and like-minded groups.
"They received training abroad and they received money from abroad," Sheikh Khaled bin Ahmed al-Khalifa told the Saudi-owned pan-Arab daily Al-Hayat.

He added that those jugged had "acknowledged receiving the assistance of several parties in the region."
"Abdul, the number seven pliers, please."
"Yes, emir. Here they are, emir."
"And the mustache wax. Properly waxed mustaches are very important when interrogating prisoners, Abdul. Someday, when you have mastered these intricacies, we'll see about letting you do an interrogation of your own."
"Oh, thank you, emir!"
"There are, here and there in the region, pockets of terrorist training that could escape state control," he said.

Responding to a question, he said he was "not accusing Iran."
Definitely, that's not what he was doing.
Shiite-majority Iran has been accused in the past of fuelling Shiite-Sunni tensions among its mostly Sunni-majority Gulf Arab neighbors. In Bahrain, Shiites are the majority but are ruled by a minority Sunni dynasty.

Early this month Bahrain charged 23 Shiite muscle with forming a "terror network" aimed at toppling the Sunni-dominated government.

The foreign minister said they were "implicated... in terrorist acts and sabotage" in Bahrain, and they had "tried to do the same in their countries."

Asked about Iran's controversial nuclear program which has earned it four sets of United Nations, aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society sanctions, Sheikh Khaled said that the Gulf countries "respect the sanctions".

"But we are against a strike and will not authorize it," he added.
Oh dear, another unauthorized strike.
Neither Israel nor the United States have ruled out a resort to military action to prevent Iran developing a nuclear weapons capability, an ambition Tehran strongly denies.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


Caribbean-Latin America
Chihuahua: Ascension Mayor Accused of Involvement with Abduction
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The outgoing mayor of Ascension, Chihuahua was accused in court today of involvement in the kidnapping of the relative of a city politician, according to Mexican news reports.

Arturo Matancillas Lozoya, alias El Cubano, one of the accused kidnappers and a survivor in the lynching of two of his putative partners, said Rafael Camarillo Rentería allowed the gang use of his ranch to keep the young abduction victim now identified as Marisol Matancillas.

Lozoya was in court in Juarez today testifying about his involvement in the incident which led to the killing of two by townspeople last week.

Rentaria was in court today as well, recommending for a lengthy sentence for the surviving gang members.

Rentaria admitted owning El Rancho Brecha del Zorro, but denied he allowed its use in the caper.
Posted by: badanov || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Moral Inversion on the High Seas: IHH Flotidiots Prepare Israel Lawfare
Terror-Supporting Turkish ‘NGO’ IHH (no doubt aided and abetted by the Islamist Turkish government) is now hoisting the convenience flag of Comoros, a.k.a جزر القُمُر‎, Juzur al-Qumur) a little-known African island state, in order to further its quest to pervert the truth about the ‘Gaza Flotilla’ fiasco:
Posted by: tipper || 09/30/2010 10:52 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Israel needs to release as much raw footage of the flotilla incident to the media as possible.
The western media should be flooded with actual irrefutable footage, designed to knock the legs out from under these scurrilous proceedings.
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 09/30/2010 23:22 Comments || Top||

#2  "The western media should be flooded with actual irrefutable footage, designed to knock the legs out from under these scurrilous proceedings."

Won't work (though I think Israel should do it anyway).

The MSM's attitude as far as the Juices are concerned is, "Who ya' gonna believe? Us or your lying eyes?" :-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/30/2010 23:32 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Australia ex-PM: We went too far accommodating Muslims!
Australia's former prime minister John Howard has attacked "multiculturalism" in English-speaking nations, saying that some sectors have gone too far in accommodating Muslim minorities.

The blunt-talking conservative, who led Australia for 11 years before losing 2007 elections, said Tuesday on a visit to Washington that the "Anglosphere" needed to take greater pride in its values and achievements.
According to the Kos Kiddies, we don't have any ...
"This is a time not to apologize for our particular identity but rather to firmly and respectfully and robustly reassert it," Howard said at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think-tank.

"I think one of the errors that some sections of the English-speaking world have made in the last few decades has been to confuse multiracialism and multiculturalism," Howard said.

Howard pointed in particular to Britain, whose Muslim community came under a spotlight after the 2005 bombings on the London transport system.

"I am a passionate believer in multiracialism. I believe that societies are enriched if they draw, as my country has done, from all parts of the world on a non-discriminatory basis and contribute, as the United States has done, to the building of a great society," he said.

"But when a nation draws people from other parts of the world, it draws them because of the magnetism of its own culture and its own way of life," Howard said.
Something about a 'melting pot' ...
"People want to live in the United States not because of some futuristic ideal of multiculturalism, but because of what they regard as the American way of life and American values," he said.
Sometimes those immigrants value the American way and American values more than do the folks who were borne here ...
While in office, Howard faced criticism from his opponents that he aggravated anti-Islamic sentiment through tough anti-terrorism laws and tighter immigration controls, including a test on "Australian values."

Howard said he welcomed Australian Muslims and hailed the recent election of Ed Husic, the son of Bosnian migrants, as his country's first Muslim member of parliament.

But Howard, who enthusiastically supported former US president George W. Bush's invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, warned that Islamic radicalism posed a real threat.

He criticized those who would make cultural identity "mushy and unclear and undistinct," rejecting the "assumption that the way to win favor from extremism is to make yourself a little more attractive to that extremism."
Sorta like Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam, they always demand that you step over one more line ...
Howard hailed what he called the values of political freedom and rule of law of five "Anglosphere" nations -- Australia, Britain, Canada, New Zealand and the United States.

Howard said that India shared some characteristics with the group. He also called for greater cooperation with Indonesia -- which he hailed as an emerging model for moderate young Muslims -- and Japan.

But Howard said that the "Anglosphere" clearly held different values than China. Howard's Labor Party successors have sought to expand relations with China, a major consumer of Australia's raw materials.
Expanding relations is fine; just remember the Chinese have a different view of the 21st century, and who is to rule it ...
Howard said his government maintained strong ties with China but added that the key to the relationship was to focus on business and "not to obsess about our philosophically different approaches to the challenges of the world."
Posted by: Beavis || 09/30/2010 05:52 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Muslims see the West as soft because NO Muslim country would bend over backwards to appease/please a minority.

In UK We suffer this with the Pakistani and Somalian communities!
Posted by: Paul2 || 09/30/2010 9:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Slowly dawn breaks on knuckle-head.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/30/2010 10:30 Comments || Top||

#3  More breaking news: THE POPE IS CATHOLIC!
Posted by: borgboy || 09/30/2010 16:44 Comments || Top||

#4  he was our greatest PM ever - though Peter Costello would have been just as good if not better still, though sadly, he never got that chance
Posted by: anon1 || 09/30/2010 23:19 Comments || Top||


Europe
French intelligence sources "not aware" of a plot foiled
[Ennahar] French sources related to intelligence said Wednesday they did not have knowledge of planned attacks in Britain, France and Germany, planned in Pakistain and foiled, as suggested by Britain's Sky News.

Questioned by AFP, a French intelligence source said, on condition of anonymity, being "not at all aware."

Also sought by the AFP, French government sources, related to intelligence, also said not to be informed of such a foiled plot, indicating that the risk of attacks mentioned last week in France did not relate to such information.

This threat was based on three types of information, the source said.
Two had originated in Algeria, one evoking the possibility of a suicide kaboom finally found implausible, and the other seemingly more serious nature of which has not been revealed.

Another intelligence from the United States confirmed the return to Europe of European jihadists who returned home from Pakistain and Afghanistan, may take action in France and other European countries, under the same government source.

"In the last few weeks, there was no foiled attack that was to take place on French soil," said a senior police officer.

French intelligence services have not received any evidence of threats as reported by Sky News, according to another French intelligence official, who requested anonymity.

The announcement Tuesday by the British television channel of the discovery of a plot linked to al-Qaeda preparing attacks in Britain, France and Germany, attributed to Western intelligence services, was largely taken up Wednesday by the media, with no immediate confirmation of the governments concerned.

Simultaneous attacks, in the style of the bloody raid that struck Bombay, India, 166 deaths by late November 2008, were planned in London and in major French and German cities, but the plan was at a preliminary stage, according to British television Sky News and the BBC which cites sources within the intelligence services.

"It's very, very exaggerated," said another French intelligence official on condition of anonymity.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Europe

#1  A very appropriate response from the French. It is unwise to communicate or confirm your knowledge of events.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/30/2010 10:42 Comments || Top||

#2  "It's very, very exaggerated," said another French intelligence official on condition of anonymity.

Oh well, look at this way. At least you’re able to pay overtime to your union skull crackers during socialist protest week.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 09/30/2010 11:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Oxymoron: French Intelligence
Posted by: Throns Ebbeque9685 || 09/30/2010 22:56 Comments || Top||


The Grand Turk
Turkey PM hints at new removal of headscarf ban
[Al Arabiya] Turkey's prime minister said on Wednesday a law that prohibits women wearing the Mohammedan headscarf at university was against freedom of belief, in his strongest hint yet the AK Party might try again to lift the ban.

Turkey's Constitutional Court struck down in 2008 an attempt by the ruling AK Party to remove the ban. But after voters approved constitutional changes in September to overhaul the court, AK Party officials have put the sensitive issue back on the government's agenda.

"We agree with society on the headscarf issue," Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said in a speech to university students in Istanbul, which was broadcast live.

"We do not want to disappoint our youth. There is no sense in being so interventionist in freedom of belief and education anymore," Erdogan said.

His comments come months before a election that will herald a new constitution if his party wins.

Wearing the Mohammedan headscarf is a touchy issue in European Union candidate Turkey, an overwhelmingly Mohammedan nation with a strictly secular constitution.

Headscarves are not permitted at public universities and civil servants are banned from wearing them at work. Religious-minded Turks say the ban is a violation of their individual rights; secularist Turks say it is needed to defend the secularist republic founded by Kemal Ataturk in 1923.

After winning a Sept. 12 referendum on constitutional reforms, Erdogan declared plans for a brand new constitution after elections that are due by July 2011.

The AK Party, which has roots in political Islam and has evolved from banned Islamist parties, is deeply mistrusted by rivals, who suspect it of using liberal reforms as a cover to roll back the republic's secularism.

The pro-business AK Party, in power since 2002, sees itself as akin to Europe's conservative Social Democrat parties, and accuses opponents of scare-mongering.

The referendum victory in September has boosted Erdogan's chances of winning the election, when the AKP will seek a third consecutive term of single party rule.

Rivals fear an emboldened AK Party will push legislation to please its conservative power base in the religious heartland and that their secular lifestyle is under threat.

Kemal Kilicdaroglu, the new leader of the staunchly secular opposition Republican People's Party (CHP), has said he is willing to discuss the issue of the headscarf and said his party is ready to start collaborating on a new constitution.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  Turkey PM hints at new removal of headscarf ban

Translation, "Please don't Kill Me".
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/30/2010 5:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Religion has no place in education in much the same way facts have no place in religion.
Posted by: Swanimote || 09/30/2010 9:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Yup entirely correct, That's how I lost My Religion, I actually READ the unabridged Bible, and it didn't say what the preachers said it did.
The Holy book is riddled with errors, One book contradicting another, when I asked My Priest(Episcopal) He said, "You must BELIEVE" and never answered what I asked, never.

Then I realised that Organized Religion is a huge SCAM,(Send/Give MONEY, Time and Effort, Yes for free) I never went back again.

God may exist, I don't know, but the HOLY BOOK, is an untrustworthy, Contradictory, pack of lies.
Mostly hearsay and tall tales.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/30/2010 11:11 Comments || Top||

#4  I will not make a judgement on documental content one way or the other but must admit, a faith or belief system based on any so-called "written word" or printed text is directed quite logically, at the literate among us or some 'trusted agent' or appointed representative. Perhaps God intended a more inclusive and less dependent audience. Among a host of other questions, I hope to one day ask him about this one.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/30/2010 11:35 Comments || Top||

#5  And so it begins....

"Disney OKs Muslim intern to wear scarf"

http://ocresort.ocregister.com/2010/09/27/disney-oks-muslim-intern-to-wear-hijab/56916/
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 09/30/2010 14:20 Comments || Top||

#6  And what to look forward to:

GROZNY, Russia, Aug 20 (Reuters) - Many women in Russia's volatile Chechnya region said on Friday they had been harassed and some physically harmed by bands of men for not wearing headscarves during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan.
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Atabayeva said earlier she had seen a group of men with automatic rifles taunting women for not wearing headscarves.

A woman in her mid-30s said she was punched in the face by a man in Islamic dress after refusing to put on a headscarf he had given her.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LDE67J13Q.htm

And this:

The Kremlin-backed head of Russia’s Muslim Chechnya region has praised assailants who targeted women with paintball pellets for going bareheaded, prompting outrage from rights activists. Eyewitnesses have said men in camouflage, often worn by police and security forces in the volatile region, fired paintball guns from cars about a dozen times last month at women who were not wearing headscarves.

http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/07/09/chechnyas-leader-hails-paintball-attacks-on-women-without-headscarves/
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 09/30/2010 14:26 Comments || Top||

#7  The future:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LAM2S3vqiU0/THH8G1MO7vI/AAAAAAAABUo/d4mJr1Ib3hs/s1600/Minnie_Burqa.jpg
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 09/30/2010 14:29 Comments || Top||

#8  Last month Turkey hosted the world basketball championships. Having been aware of this issue and Turkey's growing Islamification for some time, I paid close attention to the crowd shots as I watched. To my pleasant surprise, there were plenty of young women and most were un-scarved. But that's not a representative sample of the whole population. Probably just the Istanbul elites.
Posted by: DJ Curtis C || 09/30/2010 18:36 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistan warns against more Nato raids
[Bangla Daily Star] Pakistain has bared its collective fangs and told Nato leaders it will stop protecting US and Nato supply lines to Afghanistan if foreign aircraft stage further cross-border attacks against fleeing jihad boys, security officials said Tuesday.
"Once they touch base they're supposed to be safe, dammit!"
If carried out, such a threat would have major consequences on the war in Afghanistan as well as on Pakistain's relationship with the United States, which is vitally important for both nations. Analysts said there was little or no chance of Islamabad carrying though with it, however.
Why not? They do it periodically. They just don't announce it as policy.
The threat was therefore seen as mostly aimed at tamping down criticism inside Pakistain, where anti-American lunacy runs high and where conspiracy theories that the US army is poised to invade the nation from bases in Afghanistan are rampant.

But it was also a clear sign of Pak unease at the attacks on Saturday and Monday by Nato aircraft against beturbanned goons in its northwest tribal areas and a reminder of the leverage the country has in its complicated alliance with Washington.

While Pakistain has remained largely silent about US dronezaps in the northwest, Pak security officials say they are drawing a line at direct interference by US and Nato manned aircraft.
Simple enough. Use drones for that, too.
They rejected Nato statements that Nato air defense teams were acting to protect an Afghan border post against beturbanned goons who had attacked it, then decamped to Pakistain.
"Tut tut! That's never happened before!"
The Pak officers said Pakistain's foreign ministry had conveyed the threat to stop protecting Nato convoys to Nato headquarters in Brussels. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to give their names to the media.

If there are any more attacks by US or Nato choppers "we will not be able to ensure the safety of their convoys," one of the officials told an News Agency that Dare Not be Named news hound at a private briefing.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  D *** NG IT, this News is just SSSOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YESTERDAY.

TODAY, THE NEWS IS...

To wit,

* TOPIX > PAKISTAN THREATENS MILITARY RESPONSE TO HOMELAND INCURSIONS [US Drone Strikes].

* SAME . SOUTH AFRICA: COUNTRY SITS ON A TICKING BOMB OF UNEMPLOYMENT + POVERTY [espec as per SA Youths].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/30/2010 1:11 Comments || Top||


Pakistan Taliban commander vows to expand fight
[Dawn] A top Pakistain Taliban capo has reaffirmed his group's ties to al Qaeda, vowing to fight for imposition of Islamic law across the world, according to a video interview made available to Rooters.

The purported remarks by Wali-ur-Rehman, the commander of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistain (TTP) in South Wazoo, underlined the persistent efforts of the group to raise its profile beyond Pakistain where it has carried out a deadly wave of attacks.

"Al Qaeda is a global organisation with branches spread all over the world, whether it is Arab countries, Europe, America or the subcontinent," Rehman said, sitting on the floor flanked by two bodyguards. A Kalashnikov lay at his feet.

"Many organisations are attached to it. We totally agree with their ideology and their agenda," he said.

"We will expand this war during the next 10 years," he added.

The interview was conducted by a Pak news hound in North Wazoo working for a foreign journalist, who gave the video exclusively to Rooters.

An expert on turban videos said that Rehman's comments show the TTP's growing global ambitions and that it should be taken seriously.

"Wali-ur-Rehman's repeated point that the TTP is interested in establishing shariah globally and not just in Pakistain underscores the threat posed by the TTP in the US and Europe," said Ben Venzke, CEO of IntelCenter in Washington, who confirmed the man speaking was Rehman.

"TTP can no longer be considered a localised threat actor."

On Sept 1, US prosecutors charged TTP leader Hakimullah Mehsud in a plot that killed seven CIA employees at an American base in Afghanistan last December.

Mehsud, believed to be hiding in the tribal areas of Pakistain, was also charged with conspiracy to kill Americans overseas and conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction.

The TTP was named a foreign terrorist organisation and $5 million bounties placed on Mehsud and Rehman.

Rehman, a close associate of Mehsud, told the interviewer that Osama bin Laden was alive, and continuing to direct operations.

"I can say with confidence and authenticity that he is alive and very active and keeps contacts with his close aides and gives them instructions," he says in the video.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said the US believes bin Laden and other al Qaeda leaders to be hiding in northwest Pakistain.

RECENT VIDEO

The TTP has made several threats against American and European targets, but the group has so far failed to carry out any overseas attacks. The attempt by Pakistain-American Faisal Shahzad to bomb Times Square who was linked to the TTP was the closest the group came to succes.

In the 65-minute interview, Rehman mentions Pakistain's recent massive floods, and sends holiday greetings and sympathy to the people of Pakistain, suggesting the video was shot in August or early September. The journalist said Rehman covers his head with a blanket when outside to evade the high-resolution cameras on the constantly circling unmanned US aerial drones, which have killed almost 100 Islamic fascisti in September alone. There was no way to confirm Rehman's security precautions.

During the interview, the journalist said, two drones orbited overhead, but did not attack.

The drones are a boon to his group, Rehman said, because the anger they fueled helped bring more recruits to their cause.

"Because of these dronezaps, many people from around the world come to join us," he said. "On the one hand, we lost a lot because of these dronezaps. On the other hand we keep on receiving our sympathisers form different nations."

There has been media speculation in Britain that the recent upsurge in dronezaps in Pakistain was aimed at disrupting specific plots against European cities.

Rehman said there were "at least" 2,500 fighters in South Wazoo tying down the Pak Army, and about 18,000 TTP fighters across the whole country.

"We are sure, God willing, we would defeat the Mighty Pak Army one day. ... They have imposed an American war on us. Instead of conquering Kashmir, they are trying to conquer us."
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  Translation, I'll fight TO THE DEATH.
(Why are you grinning?, Hmmm perhaps I should rephrase that?)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/30/2010 5:12 Comments || Top||

#2  lets see... so if we dronezap you, you say more dupes are recruited so you can continue to try and take over the world.
And if we don't dronezap you, you will continue to try to take over the world.

hmmm I like choice number one.

Only I would increase dronezaps by a multiples of 100.
Even dupes can be persuaded not to throw away their lives.
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 09/30/2010 23:18 Comments || Top||


Reports of Europe terror plots 'speculative,' says Mighty Pak Army
[Dawn] The Mighty Pak Army on Wednesday dismissed as "very speculative" media reports that this month's upsurge in US dronezaps on beturbanned goons in the country's northwest sought to disrupt attacks on European cities.

Sky News on Tuesday reported that hard boyz based in Pakistain were planning simultaneous strikes in London akin to the 2008 Lashkar-e-Taiba assault on Mumbai as well as attacks on cities in France and Germany.

It said a month of strikes by death droid aircraft focused on Pakistain's North Wazoo region, in which more than 100 hard boyz were killed, was intended to disrupt the plot.

Pak military front man Major General Athar Abbas
... who is The Very Model of a Modern Major General...
told Rooters: "We don't have any information or intelligence that hard boyz had gathered there (in North Wazoo) and were plotting attacks. There is absolutely no intelligence on that."
Why would they have to "gather/" They're already there.
"Basically it's very speculative," he said of the Sky News report.
"Tut tut. And tut."
"It's a very speculative story. It does not quote any credible source."

US security officials said they could not confirm that a plot had been disrupted. But they said they believed that the threat of a plot or plots remained.

While no senior-ranking hard boyz were reported killed, Pak intelligence officials say a number of others of different nationalities are believed to have died.

On Sept 26, a senior al-Qaeda leader, identified as Sheikh al-Fateh, also known as Sheikh Fateh al-Masri, was believed to have been killed, Pak intelligence officials said.
Just a Numbah Three. Nobody important.
In being killed he has fulfilled his function. Inform the executive secretary that it's time to send out the standard promotion memo naming the next target.
strong>'NOT SURPRISED AT SURGE'
There have been 21 strikes carried out by the remotely piloted drones in September, the highest number in a single month.
The missile manufacturer has clearly been ramping up production to meet the need.
Pakistain's Tehrik-e-Taliban (TTP), or Taliban Movement of Pakistain, has made several threats against American and European targets, but has so far failed to carry out any overseas attacks.
Not for want of trying, mind you...
US counter-terrorism agencies are poring over intelligence reports suggesting a major attack plot is currently in the works against unspecified targets in Western Europe or possibly the United States, US security officials said.

Four US security officials, who asked for anonymity, said that initial intelligence reports about the threat first surfaced two weeks ago, around the time of the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

British security sources declined to comment on the Sky News report. Britain in January raised its international terrorism threat level to "severe" - the second highest level in the five-tier system. In Germany, the interior ministery said that while Berlin had information on the alleged plots, there were no firm signs of an imminent attack. "The current pointers do not warrant a change in the assessment of the danger level," the ministry said in a statement.

A SERIOUS RISK OF ATTACK
The head of Britain's MI5 Security Service, Jonathan Evans, said on Sept. 16 there remained "a serious risk of a lethal attack taking place".

"As we have repeatedly said, we know al Qaeda wants to attack Europe and the United States. We continue to work closely with our European allies on the threat from international terrorism, including al Qaeda," US intelligence chief James Clapper said in a statement.

One US official said hard boyz in Pakistain were "constantly" planning attacks in the region and beyond, and the United States would react to that.

"It shouldn't surprise anyone that links between plots and those who are orchestrating them lead to decisive American action. The beturbanned goons who are involved are, as everyone should expect, going to be targets. That's the whole point of all of this," the official said.
"Y'all were upset about a pair of helicopters following your jihadis back home? Let an attack happen within our borders, and just see what follows you home."

This article starring:
Sheikh al-Fatehal-Qaeda
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  "We don't have any information or intelligence that hard boyz had gathered there (in North Wazoo) and were plotting attacks. There is absolutely no intelligence on that."

Look, bub - if they're gathering, they're plotting. It's what they do.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 09/30/2010 11:45 Comments || Top||

#2  I recall a few years back whey buying GOOGLE was.... "speculative."
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/30/2010 11:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Reports of Europe terror plots 'speculative,' says Mighty Pak Army

"And we'd know, because where do you think they get their munitions? And training? And planning?"
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/30/2010 12:11 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Al-Sadr Agrees to al-Maliki Second Term in Return for Guarantees
[Asharq al-Aswat] Sources in the National Iraqi Alliance [NIA] that is led by Ammar al-Hakim have confirmed that leader of the Sadrist movement, Moqtada Tater al-Sadr, following pressure from Iran, has agreed to State of Law [SLC] candidate Nuri al-Maliki remaining in office for a second term "in return for guarantees."

Sources have revealed that al-Sadr agreeing to al-Maliki heading the forthcoming government occurred after al-Maliki agreed to offer concessions. A source also told Asharq Al-Awsat that "Iran played a major role in persuading many of the parties that opposed al-Maliki undertaking a second term [in office]" and that "Iran did not pay any attention to the opposition of the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq [ISCI] to al-Maliki's nomination." The source also revealed that the ISCI, that is led by Ammar al-Hakim, was absent from the National Alliance meeting [between the SLC and NIA] held on Monday, and that this "represented a message rejecting the mechanism of consensus and compromise in place with regards to choosing a prime ministerial candidate" and that the NIA "desires to move to another mechanism [for choosing a candidate] whereby a candidate is selected according to agreed specifications and conditions."

Members of the ISCI had been absent from the meeting that took place on Monday, and which was expected to be crucial for al-Maliki, however their absence failed to completely resolve the situation. At the same time that this meeting was taking place, ISCI leader Ammar al-Hakim was meeting with Iraqiya bloc leader Iyad Allawi, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, and Iraqi Vice President and NIA prime ministerial candidate Adel Abdel-Mahdi. Some political circles interpreted this meeting as potentially leading to an alliance that would prevent al-Maliki from becoming prime minister, instead seeing Abdel-Mahdi obtaining the post with the support of the ISCI, the Kurdish blocs, and the Iraqiya bloc. However,
The infamous However...
according to sources, the ISCI returned yesterday to withdraw its opposition against al-Maliki remaining in office for a second term.

For his part, Ali Shabar, a senior member of the NIA told Asharq Al-Awsat that the mechanisms that have been put in place by the National Alliance will select a candidate within the next two days. He also revealed that both parties within the National Alliance are adamant that their candidate [al-Maliki for the SLC; Abdel-Mahdi for the NIA] should be the National Alliance's candidate, and that the NIA insist that Adel Abdel-Mahdi should be the National Alliance's prime ministerial candidate.

The National Alliance agreed last week that its prime ministerial candidate would be chosen via a mechanism of consensus, and imposed a 5-day deadline for this to take place. However other sources have confirmed that this deadline has been extended for another 5 days. In the event of the National Alliance not being able to nominate a single candidate, Shabar told Asharq Al-Awsat that "we hope to see an end to the crisis inside the National Alliance, and if this does not happen, we say that the Iraqiya bloc is a bloc that has political weight, and everybody will certainly listen to and support it in this issue, for every action there is a reaction."

The second mechanism through which the National Alliance can choose its prime ministerial candidate is via a vote, with the candidate that wins between 60 percent and 65 percent of the vote of the National Alliance's 159-member General Assembly winning the nomination. A third mechanism could see a candidate chosen by a vote of the "Rulers Committee" that is made up of 14 figures, with the candidate winning 65 percent of the vote -- or 9 of the 14 votes -- being named the National Alliance prime ministerial candidate.

In addition to this, Adel Abdel-Mahdi confirmed that the ISCI supports the formation of a successful government that includes the Iraqiya bloc, the SLC, and other winning electoral bloc; however this is not a condition that is currently being imposed [by the National Alliance's nomination mechanism]. In a press conference held yesterday, Abdel-Mahdi said that the ISCI and the Iraqiya bloc -- following the meeting between them -- agreed on the importance of forming a national consensus government, and for dialogue to take place with all parties.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  We should have killed Al-Sadr when we had the chance(s).
Posted by: gorb || 09/30/2010 3:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Funny gorb I was thinking the same thing. We had a bead on him back in 2003. Shoulda took the shot.
Posted by: armyguy || 09/30/2010 8:34 Comments || Top||


Allawi in Syria amid govt standoff
[Al Arabiya] Former premier Iyad Allawi, who is a leading candidate in the contested race to lead Iraq's new government held talks on Wednesday with Syrian President Bashar "Pencilneck" al-Assad about his country's protracted coalition talks, Al Arabiya news hound said.

Assad told Allawi that Syria would "support any agreement that gets Iraqis out of the current crisis and contribute to the formation of a government of national unity that brings together all the forces represented in parliament," the official Syrian Arab News Agency reported.

Allawi spoke of the "enormous confidence Iraqis have in Syria which has kept itself at an equal distance from all Iraqi parties," SANA added.

It was Allawi's second meeting with Assad in recent months. The two men met in July.

Allawi, who heads the cross-sectarian Iraqiya coalition, narrowly defeated Prime Minister Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's Shiite-dominated bloc in the March 7 elections. But no single group has pulled together enough support to name a new prime minister and start assembling a government.

Allawi told AP early Wednesday that his coalition will not take part in any government headed by al-Maliki.

In an interview with Al Arabiya on Tuesday, Allawi said that Syria, Turkey and Russia had informed him that Iran "has underlined his name in red", in a hint that the Islamic state will prevent him from reaching the post of Iraq's prime minister.

He added that Iran has a special reservation on the whole Iraqiya coalition and refuses to hold any dialogue with the bloc.

Also in Damascus this week is Shiite holy man Moqtada Tater al-Sadr, who also leads a political group that has opposed keeping al-Maliki in power.

The meetings in Damascus appear to be part of a flurry of deal-making to find ways of forming a government.

Iran has been accused for years of aiding violent gangs -- a charge Tehran denies. But U.S. and Iraqi authorities say a possible splintering of Shiite factions in Iraq could open even more channels for Iran to back proxy attacks and harassment of American forces and Sunni allies.

Such a scenario would further strengthen Iran's hand, which already reaches into the political hierarchy through deep ties with major Shiite parties.

Since the U.S.-led invasion, Iran has had powerful connections in Iraq through Shiite holy mans such as Iranian-born Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani and Moqtada al-Sadr, who has been in self-exile in Iran since 2007.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Iraqi Shiite Militia Hints of Iran's Hand in South
[Asharq al-Aswat] Nearly four minutes of shaky, hand-held video clips show roadside kabooms hitting U.S. convoys, a battery of Katyusha rockets and a soldier who appeared to be downed by sniper fire.

And digitally burned into the left-hand corner is the raised-rifle emblem of a Shiite militia linked to Iran.

The purported claim of responsibility by the group known as Asaib Ahl al-Haq and pledges of more violence highlight possible new muscle flexing by armed Shiite factions as U.S. forces depart and Iraq's political leaders struggle to form a government. The jihad-style montage also underscores the unpredictable nature of armed Shiite factions eager to portray U.S. troops as leaving under fire.

To be sure, the immediate threats from Shiite militias are small compared with the recurring blows inflicted by suspected Sunni bully boys, such as car bombings last week in Storied Baghdad that killed more than 30 people and a recent wave of targeted slayings. The worries, however, are more about how much Iran could be pulling the strings as it maneuvers to fill any vacuum left by the Americans.

Iran has been accused for years of aiding violent Shiite gangs -- a charge Tehran denies. But U.S. and Iraqi authorities say a possible splintering of Shiite factions in Iraq could open even more channels for Iran to back proxy attacks and harassment of American forces and Sunni allies.

Such a scenario would further strengthen Iran's hand, which already reaches into the political hierarchy through deep ties with major Shiite parties.

The map of Shiite bully boyz has always been difficult to read -- with a host of offshoots and rival factions. Now, U.S. and Iraqi security official are trying to make sense of the latest Shiite-linked violence linked to Asaib Ahl al-Haq, or "League of the Righteous," or fighters inspired by the Tehran-support Hezbullies in Leb.

A U.S. security adviser to Iraq's government said it's unclear if the claims by Asaib Ahl al-Haq -- posted on a website linked to the group -- represent a return to attacks by its rank-and-file bully boys, who were blamed for some of the worst sectarian bloodshed in recent years. Or perhaps it's a splinter faction using the group's name and emblem, which is modeled on Hezbullies's banner: an arm thrusting aloft an assault rifle. The adviser spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief news hounds.

Senior Iraqi security officials repeatedly claim Iran is giving logistical and financial backing to Shiite snuffy cells including Asaib Ahl al-Haq and a Hezbullies-modeled group believed led by Abu Mustafa al-Sheibani, who is accused by Washington of smuggling rockets and weapons from Iran and coordinating bomb attacks on U.S. forces.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
UN rights body backs Gaza flotilla raid report
[Al Arabiya] The United Nations, aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society Human Rights Council on Wednesday endorsed a fiercely critical report on Israel's raid on a Gazoo aid flotilla in May but stopped short of pressing for an international criminal inquiry.

It also renewed the mandate of separate investigation team that has been looking into whether Israelis and Paleostinians have been properly investigating alleged rights abuses during the 3-week Gazoo conflict in 2008-2009.

The mission was set up in March after a U.N.-mandated report by South African judge Richard Goldstone accused both Israel and Paleostinian groups of war crimes during the three-week conflict which erupted in late December 2008.

Goldstone had asked for a follow-up to ensure both sides held "credible" investigations.

Earlier this month, the mission reported that both Israel and Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, had failed so far to carry out adequate probes into allegations of war crimes committed during the Gazoo conflict nearly two years ago.

But there was no indication in two separate resolutions tabled at the 47-nation council by the Organization of Islamic States (OIC) that Israel's critics were aiming to have it taken soon before the International Criminal Court (ICC).

That possibility was raised on Tuesday by a British judge on the council-appointed team that investigated the flotilla raid on May 31, in which nine pro-Paleostinian muscle, mainly Turks, were killed by Israeli commandos.

Paleostinian rights campaigners in Geneva for the council session told news hounds that they wanted Israel taken immediately to the ICC over the Gazoo fighting in December 2009 and January 2009, in which more than 1,400 Paleostinians died.

But diplomats said both resolutions appeared to take heed of public and private appeals from Western countries and the Paleostinian Authority to avoid any action that would create new difficulties for the renewed Middle East peace processor.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  but stopped short of pressing for an international criminal inquiry.

So those pesky "Facts" won't prove them Liars.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/30/2010 5:03 Comments || Top||

#2  So those pesky "Facts" won't prove them Liars.

When dealing with Jews? Grow up, Jim.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/30/2010 6:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Given time they will furthermore back Yamamoto's planned excusion to Hawaii.
Posted by: borgboy || 09/30/2010 17:05 Comments || Top||


Arafat Urged Attacks when Talks Faltered: Hamas
[Asharq al-Aswat] The late Paleostinian leader Yasser Arafat urged Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, to carry out attacks inside Israel when he felt peace talks had failed, a Hamas big turban said in remarks published on Wednesday.

"Arafat signalled to the Hamas movement to carry out a number of military operations in the heart of the Jewish state when he felt that the negotiations with the occupation government had failed," Mahmud Zahar said during a meeting with Hamas MPs on Tuesday, according to the Hamas-linked Falasteen newspaper.

He spoke on the 10th anniversary of the outbreak of the second Paleostinian intifada, or uprising, which engulfed the occupied territories months after the collapse of the 2000 Camp David peace talks.

His comments come as renewed peace talks between Israel and the Paleostinians again appear to be on the verge of collapse in the face of a dispute over Israeli settlements. Hamas opposes the new talks.

At the height of the uprising in 2002 Paleostinian forces of Evil launched scores of suicide kabooms in Israeli cities as Israel frequently carried out large-scale military incursions across the West Bank and the Gazoo Strip.

Arafat had always insisted that the uprising was a spontaneous reaction to the Israeli occupation and that he had no control over Hamas, the long-time rivals of his secular Fatah movement.
Arafat had always lied. He lied to the world in English, he lied to the Israelis in English and Hebrew, and he lied to his own people in Arabic. Being the creative man that he was, each set of lies was different.
He publicly condemned attacks targeting civilians inside Israel, including those carried out by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, the armed wing of Fatah.

Arafat died of mysterious causes in a Paris hospital in November 2004 after having been besieged in his headquarters in the West Bank town of Ramallah for nearly three years.

His successor, Paleostinian president Mahmud Abbas, always opposed the militarisation of the uprising and moved to end it when he assumed power.

An Israeli-Paleostinian summit in February 2005 was widely seen as signalling the end of the uprising, although the violence continued. Some 4,700 people had been killed by then, around 80 percent of them Paleostinians.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  Go ahead, make are day.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/30/2010 6:57 Comments || Top||

#2  "Our day"
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/30/2010 6:59 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
West warned Islam insults risk 'civilization clash'
[Al Arabiya] Kings, emirs and presidents from Mohammedan nations have made pressing appeals at the United Nations, aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society for the West to clampdown on attacks on Islam which they warned is a growing threat to international security.

In speeches to the U.N. General Assembly, leaders said that "Islamophobia" was causing a growing Mohammedan-West divide and one top Arab minister put the international community on guard against a "civilization clash."

A threat to burn the Koran by a fringe U.S. church, controversy over a proposed mosque near the scene of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in New York and assaults on Islamic symbols in European countries have been a major talking point for Mohammedan nations.

Normally strong allies of the West have spoken out at the U.N. against the growing religious tensions in the past week.

Many were embarrassed by comments by Iran's President Mahmoud Short Round Ahmadinejad linking the U.S. government to 9/11, diplomats said.

But Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, the emir of Qatar, who has launched western-backed diplomatic initiatives to settle wars ranging from Sudan to the Israel-Paleostinian conflict, condemned attempts to link Islam with terrorism. He partly blamed the U.S. "War on Terror" declared after Sept. 11.

"We disagree with the attribution of this so-called terrorism to the Islamic religion because this -- in addition to being incorrect -- is a historical injustice that is refuted by evidence from recent history."

He said "gratuitous violent actions" in the United States, Europe and Asia in the late 20th century were never labeled as being American, European or Asian terrorism.

"This violence was attributed to its underlying political, economic, social and even ideological causes, without attributing it to a particular religion, country or idea."

"Regrettable" incidents
Egypt's Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit condemned "regrettable and appalling incidents that have increasingly touched Mohammedans and Islam, repeatedly and sometimes systematically in certain cases."

He added: "We find the West, in general, being drawn into a clash with the Mohammedan world. This clash will serve no one except faceless myrmidons and those who hold perverted ideas on both sides. It will not be in the interest of security and stability in the world."

Gheit called for western governments to take action, including passing laws.

"We call upon all countries and especially governments, to assume their responsibility to confront the specter of a dreadful religious and civilization clash."

King Abdullah II of Jordan said it is "essential to resist forces of division that spread misunderstanding." He called for an annual World Interfaith Harmony Week to promote tolerance.

Malaysia's Prime Minister Najib Razak told the U.N. assembly that the world's 1.5 billion Mohammedans were offended by "attempts to demonize Islam."

He added: "It intensifies the divide between the broad Mohammedan world and the West."
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  FOAD!
and in-case they don't know how to look that up...
it stands for: F_ck Off & Die!
Posted by: Water Modem || 09/30/2010 0:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Come now, one can't have a 'clash of civilizations' if one side consists only of spittle-spewing barbarians.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 09/30/2010 3:44 Comments || Top||

#3  True, there Must be two "Civilizations, not one and Barbarism.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/30/2010 5:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Dar el Islam has a lot to achieve before it can be elevated to the rank of Barbarism.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/30/2010 6:40 Comments || Top||

#5  This clash will serve no one except extremists and those who hold perverted ideas on both sides…Gheit called for western governments to take action, including passing laws.

Ah yes, another “Moderate Muslim” making a moral equivalency between cold-blooded murderers and symbol desecrators. Worse yet, he’s also issuing veiled threats of violence if his demands aren’t met. This week it’s Egypt's Foreign Minister. Last week it was Pakistan’s Interior Minister. And believe it or not, prior to that it was an Imam on the US State Department’s payroll. It sure would be nice if the POTUS had the courage to rebuke their statements with a speech explaining the First Amendment to US constitution. You know, seeing as how he felt the need to lecture the American people on the same subject over the NYC mosque.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 09/30/2010 11:56 Comments || Top||

#6  West warned Islam insults risk 'civilization clash'

A good speaking topic for our next Templars potluck.

Posted by: Besoeker || 09/30/2010 12:06 Comments || Top||

#7  And to be sure to remind us as to who is actually in control, the Ground Zero mosque developer lets us know that he has no plans to move the rabat.

"Mosque Developer Has No Plans to Move the Project"

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Mosque-Developer-Has-No-Plans-to-Move-the-Project-103998293.html
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 09/30/2010 15:07 Comments || Top||

#8  If you ever get a civilization, we can talk.

Otherwise I'm pushing to pass laws that every muzzie that whines about being insulted gets shot in the back of the head.

Fair enough?
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/30/2010 15:19 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Gunmen arrived days before
[Straits Times] A WITNESS in the trial of the Philippines' worst political massacre testified on Wednesday that a powerful clan trucked in gunnies days ahead of the attack and warned locals to flee the coming bloodbath.
How thoughtful.
Prosecution witness Nuruddin Mauyag, 35, told the court at least 60 heavily gunnies arrived in his village from Nov 20, 2009 and took orders from Kanor Ampatuan, a member of the country's most powerful Mohammedan political clan. Ampatuan is accused of planning and taking part in the Nov 23 massacre of 57 people in the clan's southern stronghold of Maguindanao province.

'Kanor told me and my neighbours, 'All those who have children must leave because when the Mangudadatus pass we will shoot them even if they are with soldiers,'' Mr Mauyag said.

The Ampatuans are accused of abducting the victims at gunpoint, taking them to an isolated area and shooting them dead as part of a plan to stop a member of a rival clan, Esmael Mangudadatu, from running for Maguindanao governor. Mangudadatu's rival for office, Andal Ampatuan Jnr, along with 16 police officers are on trial in connection with the massacre, which left 32 journalists, two lawyers, as well as several of Mangudadatu's relatives dead.

Andal Ampatuan Jnr's father Andal Ampatuan Snr, his uncle Kanor Ampatuan and three other detained members of the clan are among the 196 defendants. The other defendants include officers and members of the local police and government militia units, formed by the state as buffer forces against Mohammedan rebels but which the clan allegedly co-opted into becoming its private army.

Mr Mauyag, whose testimony is scheduled to continue next Wednesday, said the first gunnies he saw three days before the massacre were local police and militia forces, along with three police cars parked outside the local mosque. Some of Kanor Ampatuan's men arrived later in the day and the following day, by which time they numbered at least 60, he said.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Rising intolerance among Muslims
[Straits Times] INDONESIA'S Muslim majority has become less tolerant over the past decade and the government of President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono is turning a blind eye to the problem, researchers said on Wednesday.

A new survey by the Centre for the Study of Islam and Society found 'a worrying increase' in religious intolerance among Muslims in 2010 compared to 2001.

Centre chief Jajat Burhanudin said certain ministers in Mr Yudhoyono's cabinet actively encouraged intolerance, while the police too often failed to protect minority groups.

'If this continues, the process of democracy in this country will be disrupted as people will justify their acts in the name of Islam,' he said.

Of 1,200 adult Muslim men and women surveyed nationwide, 57.8 per cent said they were against the construction of churches and other non-Muslim places of worship, the highest rate the study centre has recorded since 2001.

More than a quarter, or 27.6 per cent, said they minded if non-Muslims taught their children, up from 21.4 per cent in 2008
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  Rising intolerance among Muslims

must be a misprint, Islam is the very definition of Intolerence.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/30/2010 5:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Rising intolerance indiscretion among Muslims.

Here, fixed it.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/30/2010 6:56 Comments || Top||

#3  'If this continues, the process of democracy in this country will be disrupted as people will justify their acts in the name of Islam,' he said.

Isnt this what the WOT is ALL about democracy sponsored by the West Versus Islamic states sponsored by Saudi/Iran?
Posted by: Paul2 || 09/30/2010 7:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Good point, Paul2. Although I would position it not so much about democracy -- Iran is a democracy of a sort -- but an open and inclusive society vs. a violently exclusive and intolerant one.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/30/2010 12:44 Comments || Top||

#5  TW,

I remember a guy being interviewed in Iran during the last election he said the choice was between a more western style liberal democracy wanted by the reformers and a stricter Islamic state wanted by the hardliners.He wanted the Islamic state as it was more stricter,traditional,women knew their place and less decadent than the West which he associated with Porn,adultery,drugs,breakdown of marriage etc.He liked the Islamic way of life as men were more secure/in charge!He said giving Women power will see the downfall of the West.
Posted by: Paul D || 09/30/2010 17:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Even Tojo - smart man he - would not allow Indonesia into the "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" for this and other issues.
Posted by: borgboy || 09/30/2010 17:22 Comments || Top||

#7  I remember a guy being interviewed in Iran

Interesting memory, Paul. If that's how they see it, then I yield the point to you. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/30/2010 19:35 Comments || Top||


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More rights for Iran's women: Presidential aide
[Al Arabiya] President Mahmoud Short Round Ahmadinejad's closest aide has called for more rights for Iran's "oppressed" women, the latest controversial comments from a man who has become the lightning rod for divisions in the ruling elite.
This is as misplaced as President Obama now standing up to the Man. Dear idiots, you are the Man, it's you that's doing the oppressing.
"Women have been oppressed and treated unjustly in our society in the past and this oppression still exists," Esfandiar Rahim-Mashaie, the president's chief of staff, was quoted as saying by Iranian newspapers on Wednesday.

Iranian women's rights have long been lamented by muscle abroad, most recently over the case of a woman sentenced to be stoned for adultery, an incident Ahmadinejad told Western news hounds had never happened and had been hyped by the media.

But Mashaie's comments are likely to have more impact within Iran where he has often been the focus of ideological and personal rifts among the hardliners who rule the Islamic Theocratic Republic and dislike what they see as his liberal leanings.

Mashaie's interview with the semi-official ILNA news agency happened as Iran's parliament debates a law which, dubbed the "Family Protection Bill". It was reintroduced to the Iranian parliament after languishing three years while tabled for review.
That is to say, on President Ahmadinejad's watch.
Three articles within the bill in particular could prove extremely harmful to Iranian women's legal rights: articles 22, 23 and 24, which seek to impose heavy taxation of women's alimony and dowry, remove the requirement to register temporary marriages, and to eliminate the need for a husband to prove financial solvency or even ask his wife's permission before marrying another woman.

Under current law consent is required for the latter and opponents of the law see it as a retrograde step for women's rights in a country where already a woman's testimony in court is accorded half of the value of a man's.

"Today women play an important role in our society and the current situation of our society is not comparable to the past centuries and decades," Mashaie said. "We should try to guarantee women's rights where our religious framework allows us.

"The legislative system should act in a way to take the rights of women into consideration more than ever."

Mashaie has been under relentless criticism from hardliners since Ahmadinejad's re-election last year and his comments on a particularly sensitive subject are likely to fuel controversy.

A constant presence at Ahmadinejad's side, some analysts say Mashaie acts as a buffer, absorbing criticisms from Iran's hardliners. Ahmadinejad himself is criticized by governments abroad and the Iranian opposition for his hard-line policies.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  "You have a right to die alongside us when Israel looses its patience."?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/30/2010 6:38 Comments || Top||


'Enemy waging cyber war against Iran'
[Iran Press TV] Iran's Minister of Telecommunications Reza Taqipour says the Iranian president's speech at the UN prompted enemies to try and wage a cyber war against the country.

"Fortunately the country's telecommunication infrastructure in the cyber field is really good," Taqipour said on Wednesday, adding that the enemy cannot cross these obstacles.

Taqipour stressed that considerable measures have been taken to provide the security of cyberspace and Iranian websites.

"Last year and during the sedition ordeal these [cyber] attacks were ongoing but domestic networks and websites were never seriously damaged."

Taqipour added that nowadays because of Iran's strong infrastructure in cyberspace, the Iranian nation's voice can be heard in the world.

The remark came after Western media claimed that computers at the Bushehr nuclear plant in southern Iran had been infected with the Stuxnet worm.

The Windows-specific malware targets computers using SCADA (supervisory control and data acquisition) -- a control system favored by industries managing water supplies, oil rigs, and power plants.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  ION TOPIX > MATT GURNEY: IRANIAN KAMIKAZE BOATS MUST BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. The IRGC new "Flying Boats" are IHO ideal or "tailor-made" for SUICIDE = HIGH-RISK STRIKE OPS AGZ US-ALLIED WARSHIPS, ETC. OPER IN PERSIAN GULF.

Personally I'm more interested in seeing iff Iran will dev larger indigensous strike versions, Aero-capable + Submersible, of same, VERSIONS THAT MAKE THE IRGC BOYZ HAPPY BY NOT REQUIRING SUICIDE MISSIONS???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/30/2010 1:23 Comments || Top||


Hariri: We Won't Let Rafik Hariri's Blood Go Waste
[An Nahar] Prime Minister Saad Hariri on Wednesday warned that Leb will "not let the blood of Premier Rafik Hariri go waste."

Hariri, during Mustaqbal Movement's politburo meeting, underlined the importance of "ensuring internal stability and rallying behind Constitutional institutions in order to spare the Lebanese the atmosphere of chaos and out of respect for Arab's keenness on Leb's stability," his office said in a statement.

Hariri also stressed that the relationship with Damascus is a "priority" because it serves the interests of both Leb and Syria.

He renewed commitment to the Special Tribunal for Leb, pledging that Leb won't back down or accept any compromise on the Court.

The statement reminded that the STL is an international institution that stands on its own and is not subject to political balance.

"And most of all, we will not let the blood of martyr Premier Rafik Hariri go waste.

"This would be by patience and steadfastness.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Bellemare Reportedly Sent Part of Indictment to Fransen to Match it with International Standards
[An Nahar] Special Tribunal for Leb Prosecutor Daniel Bellemare has sent part of the materials and evidence in his possession to STL Pre-Trial Judge Daniel Fransen to match them with international standards before issuance of indictment, Al-Akhbar newspaper reported Wednesday, citing well-informed sources. The terse report did not disclose further details.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Hezbollah blasts Israel over settlements
[Iran Press TV] Leb's Hezbullies has criticized Arab states for taking no step towards reviving Paleostinians' rights and only relying on the US to end the decades-long Israeli-Paleostinians conflict.

Strongly condemning the resumption of construction of Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, the Lebanese resistance movement said in a statement on Wednesday that what is happening in the occupied Paleostinian lands is the result of Arab leaders' silence.

Touching on the new round of negotiations between the Paleostinian Authority and Tel Aviv under the US mediation, the Islamic movement also criticized Arab states for relying on Washington policies which are 'in conformity with Israeli plots', to protect the violated rights of Paleostinians.

Hezbullies described the expansion of Jewish settlements on the occupied Paleostinian lands as a "violation of international laws" and "stealing of Arab territories."

Tel Aviv started its illegal construction work in the West Bank on Monday, hours after the expiry of a partial freeze on settlement constructions despite worldwide calls for the expansion and the extension of the 10-month settlement-slowdown.

The Paleostinian Authority had repeatedly threatened to leave the US-sponsored direct talks with Tel Aviv if Israel resumes settlement construction. Acting Paleostinian Authority Chief the ineffectual Mahmoud Abbas is expected to respond to the decision after a meeting of Arab leaders in Egypt next Monday.

UN Secretary General the ephemeral Ban Ki-moon expressed disappointment at Israel's decision as not to extend the partial freeze, calling it a "provocative" action.

The settlement construction on the occupied Paleostinian lands is in violation of the United Nations, aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society Security Council Resolutions 446, 452 and 465.
Posted by: Fred || 09/30/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah



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