Hi there, !
Today Tue 07/10/2007 Mon 07/09/2007 Sun 07/08/2007 Sat 07/07/2007 Fri 07/06/2007 Thu 07/05/2007 Wed 07/04/2007 Archives
Rantburg
533823 articles and 1862279 comments are archived on Rantburg.

Today: 73 articles and 273 comments as of 6:41.
Post a news link    Post your own article   
Area: WoT Operations    WoT Background    Non-WoT    Opinion       
100 Murdered in Turkmen Village of Amer Li
Today's Headlines
Headline Comments [Views]
Page 5: Russia-Former Soviet Union
9 00:00 Frank G [10] 
3 00:00 FOTSGreg [6] 
9 00:00 Barbara Skolaut [5] 
2 00:00 Cyber Sarge [3] 
10 00:00 Mike N. [4] 
3 00:00 mrp [3] 
2 00:00 USN, ret. [5] 
Page 1: WoT Operations
3 00:00 Chuck Simmins [9]
2 00:00 McZoid [9]
0 [3]
2 00:00 Steven [11]
4 00:00 Classical_Liberal [13]
2 00:00 Old Patriot [4]
1 00:00 Jack is Back! [7]
8 00:00 Mac [7]
9 00:00 Old Patriot [4]
4 00:00 Redneck Jim [6]
1 00:00 Bright Pebbles [9]
1 00:00 twobyfour [5]
5 00:00 Elmereter Hupash6222 [6]
2 00:00 Glenmore [8]
3 00:00 Redneck Jim [4]
0 [11]
2 00:00 JohnQC [5]
1 00:00 ed [4]
0 [5]
1 00:00 gromgoru [5]
0 [3]
0 [20]
0 [9]
7 00:00 Old Patriot [14]
4 00:00 Redneck Jim [10]
2 00:00 Redneck Jim [8]
2 00:00 JohnQC [9]
8 00:00 Redneck Jim [8]
Page 2: WoT Background
3 00:00 lotp [6]
0 [5]
5 00:00 Frank G [11]
0 [3]
3 00:00 Bright Pebbles [3]
16 00:00 Frank G [6]
9 00:00 McZoid [7]
3 00:00 Jack is Back! [5]
8 00:00 Zenster [6]
3 00:00 Abu do you love [7]
17 00:00 Frank G [6]
1 00:00 Redneck Jim [9]
0 [7]
1 00:00 3dc [10]
0 [5]
0 [7]
0 [8]
0 [9]
4 00:00 Frozen Al [3]
Page 3: Non-WoT
8 00:00 Zenster [13]
2 00:00 Anonymoose [7]
13 00:00 Zenster [15]
4 00:00 James [6]
0 [3]
0 [4]
1 00:00 Zenster [5]
23 00:00 Frank G [5]
0 [4]
3 00:00 Nimble Spemble [3]
15 00:00 BrerRabbit [5]
1 00:00 JerseyMike [3]
0 [4]
0 [4]
Page 4: Opinion
0 [3]
10 00:00 lotp [6]
4 00:00 Zenster [10]
1 00:00 ed [4]
3 00:00 Matt K. [6]
-Short Attention Span Theater-
Happy Tanabata, everybody!
Posted by: Mike || 07/07/2007 10:16 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thanks! I will put it on the calendar for next year along with Festivus.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/07/2007 14:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Barry Hughart's Bridge of Birds is a great fantasy story re: this.
Posted by: Adriane || 07/07/2007 22:23 Comments || Top||

#3  One popular Tanabata custom is to write one's wishes on a piece of paper, and hang that piece of paper on a specially erected bamboo tree, in the hope that the wishes become true.

Damn! Not a bamboo tree in sight. Maybe if I hang a few of these Ben Franklins out of my car window in certain neighborhoods my wishes will come true.

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 07/07/2007 23:56 Comments || Top||


243 Killed in Islamic Dating Service Crash
Just kidding!

Hundreds of goats crushed in trailer crash

SAN RAFAEL -- Two hundred and forty-three goats were crushed to death this morning after the livestock truck they were riding in flipped while making a tight turn in San Rafael, authorities said. The goats, part of a herd used for vegetation management, died inside the four-tier truck trailer after it collapsed around 8:45 a.m. on Kerner Boulevard at Irene Street. The cause of the crash was being investigated. The 62-year-old truck driver and a passenger were not injured.

The goats were the property of Goats R Us, an Orinda company that rents out the herd to public and private agencies seeking to control overgrowth and reduce fire danger. About 150 goats survived the crash and were taken to their new job site in Mill Valley, where they had been heading at the time of the accident. Two goats were injured and were being treated at the Marin Humane Society in Novato, according to spokeswoman Sheri Cardo. One of them suffered severe spinal injuries and was being evaluated by a team of veterinarians. Cardo said so many goats died because the internal structure of the metal pens and dividers inside the trailer fell apart in the crash.

"It was a domino effect,'' she said. "Goats and metal bars and goats and metal bars, all on top of each other.'' A bystander who was helping to rescue the goats after the crash was treated for minor injuries after he was struck in the head by a metal door on the truck trailer, police said. In May, 15 kids belonging to a different East Bay goat herding company were shot and killed by an unknown suspect at King Estates Recreation Area in the Oakland hills.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  243 Killed in Islamic Dating Service Crash

Zenster, you are just plane no gouda!
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/07/2007 0:31 Comments || Top||

#2  "Oh, the humanity ovinity!"
Posted by: PBMcL || 07/07/2007 0:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Poor li'l goats.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/07/2007 1:24 Comments || Top||

#4  PBMcL, ovinity would be sheepen. Capranity, m'kay?
Posted by: twobyfour || 07/07/2007 2:08 Comments || Top||

#5  243 Killed in Islamic Dating Service Crash

Perverts. Imagine the goats' embarrasment when their families find out!
Posted by: gorb || 07/07/2007 4:30 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm still waiting for someone to come along and make a crack about how, "Paradise just got 243 more virgins."
Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2007 4:53 Comments || Top||

#7  How do you know they were virgins, Zen?
Posted by: Spot || 07/07/2007 10:34 Comments || Top||

#8  A lot of schools are going to have to put driver's ed and sex education on hold.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/07/2007 13:36 Comments || Top||

#9  How do you know they were virgins, Zen?

Well, first off, they were American goats. Second, nowhere is there any indication that Goats R Us is a goat milk producer, that means their herds are probably large groups of unfertilized nannies. Having milk goats consuming such varied browse would ruin the flavor of any milk harvested and that ignores udder damage done by thorns and underbrush at their various destinations. Even a neutered billy can still be a contentious pain in the ass. Ever herded goats? I have and the difference in temperment is like night and day. So, most likely what we had was a truckload of compliant young nanny goats that bought the harp farm.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2007 14:28 Comments || Top||

#10  the 62 year old driver and passenger...

I wouldn't have thought someone that big could attain that age.
Posted by: Mike N. || 07/07/2007 14:59 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Wormeries 'may add to greenhouse gases'
Posted by: lotp || 07/07/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  . . . the greenhouse gases emitted by a large commercial worm composting plant may be comparable to the global warming potential of a landfill site of the same scale, . . . This is because worms used in composting emit nitrous oxide - a greenhouse gas 296 times more powerful, molecule for molecule, than carbon dioxide.

Why, those bastards! . . . those . . . WORMS!

We know from research in Germany that a third of the nitrous oxide emissions coming from the soil are associated with worms.

Save the Earth--kill worms!
Posted by: Mike || 07/07/2007 7:19 Comments || Top||

#2 

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ...
Posted by: mrp || 07/07/2007 11:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Sorry, I was overcome by the increased nitrous oxide emissions.
Posted by: mrp || 07/07/2007 11:54 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
July 4th In San Francisco
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/07/2007 10:14 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Zombie's stomach and demeanor are much sturdier than mine. I couldn't even get to the end of the photos as my BP was surging. I can't imagine actually attending such offal dispalys of visciousness.

Posted by: xbalanke || 07/07/2007 12:08 Comments || Top||

#2  PIMF: displays
Posted by: xbalanke || 07/07/2007 12:09 Comments || Top||

#3  The images at this "art show" indicates that Iran's agents have successfully infiltrated the "art" community of San Fran Sicko enough to insert thier viscious, anti_American, propaganda front and center in this city.

Worse still, an employee of the cities government infrastructure started compaining about things and it was either Boxer or Pelosi this week called in from Washington saying that the city employee was "attempting to destabilize the current political hierarchy", the same thing you see in Communist, dictatoral states.

San Fran Sicko is now the home of anti-American facism, within the US. The type of politics that saw these people in their Washington offices try to ram the Amnesty down American's throats.

It will get much worse now...
Posted by: Helmuth, Speaking for Chusoling1715 || 07/07/2007 13:43 Comments || Top||

#4  I looked photos but there was nothing to indicate the 100,000,000 people killed by socialism and communism. Or the beheading that the jihadists love so much. Or the burned bodies of workers hung from the Falluja bridge. What about the sniping from mosques? Or how about the results of terrorists IEDs? Let's not forget the women and children murdered by the terrorists. Where are those works of art? If you don't like democracies and living in America, try Saudi Arabia, Syria, iran, Pakistan or Cuba. Or if you wait you can move to Chavez's Venezuela. Give Venezuela some time and it will become the screwed up paradise you seek.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/07/2007 14:00 Comments || Top||

#5  JohnQC,

the right are FAR too slow, when the left say they will not censor, then we should make them show right-wing stuff or be hypocrites.

I can think of a few posters like
"Adolf banned citizens with guns and smoking, fight national socialism as it hasn't gone anway!"

or "national socialism, the second most deadly form of socialism"
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 07/07/2007 14:52 Comments || Top||

#6  "Prayers for the Assassin" sets San Francisco as the HQ of the US caliphate...
Posted by: Goober Ebbugum5718 || 07/07/2007 15:04 Comments || Top||

#7  How about cordoning off and leasing SF to AQ for, say, 5 years?

It would be for some a lifelong experience.
Posted by: twobyfour || 07/07/2007 16:03 Comments || Top||

#8  "If you don't love it, leave it
Let this song that I'm singin' be a warning

When you're runnin' down our country, man
you're walkin' on the fightin' side of me!"


---Merle Haggard
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 07/07/2007 16:23 Comments || Top||

#9  5 years, #7 2x4?

For the majority of the idiots there, 5 minutes under AQ rule would be a lifetime.

And they'd only get the 5 minutes because there are so many of them to get rid of deal with....
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/07/2007 18:40 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Concerns Raised Over Breaking Up Ships
Water-quality officials and environmentalists raised concerns Friday over the Bush administration's abrupt decision to move full-steam ahead with breaking up old warships rotting in California's "mothball fleet."

The federal Maritime Administration announced Thursday that it would next month lift its moratorium on disposing of the ships. A collection of more than 50 troop transports, tankers and other vessels are rusting in limbo northeast of San Francisco.

Such a step would set in motion the towing of some vessels from Suisun Bay, a shallow estuary, to the former Naval Air Station Alameda, where the warships would be scrubbed of sea life before being hauled to a ship-breaking facility in Texas.

That scrubbing causes toxic paint to flake off into the water, and that is what worries environmentalists and state water-quality regulators. "It looks like they're using San Francisco Bay waters as a dumping ground," said Michael Wall, a senior attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council who has followed the issue.
Hey! I know! Let's tow them to Bangladesh, run them aground on the shore, and let the third-worlders do our dirty work for us!
Saul Bloom, executive director of Arc Ecology, a San Francisco environmental group working to make the ghost warships disappear, said the Maritime Administration "seems to be the one agency that is most committed to ignoring the nation's environmental regulations."

Bloom said he was disappointed that the agency intended to scrub the warships at Alameda, a military base near Oakland that was shuttered a decade ago and portions of which are currently Superfund cleanup sites. The ship-scrubbing could complicate ongoing cleanup efforts, he said.
"Much better if they scrub the ships .. um .. somewhere else. Maybe a Red state. It's too ucky to do it here."
Moreover, Bloom said he was dismayed that the Maritime Administration had not committed to obtaining permits under the Clean Water Act for the scrubbing.

Bruce Wolfe, executive officer of the San Francisco Bay Regional Water Quality Control Board, said his agency - charged with enforcing clean-water standards - does not want to demand such permits from the Maritime Administration. Insisting on permits would slow the removal of the ships from Suisun Bay, Wolfe said. "We would much rather come to an agreement with them on what are the best management practices they'd use" for scrubbing the warships, Wolfe said.

Still, Wolfe said he had several concerns about the Maritime Administration's announcement.

Just last week, staff for the agency's head, Sean T. Connaughton, had pledged to provide the state with the results of tests the administration had conducted on a contaminant-containment system used on ships in Virginia, he said. The system uses six-foot-wide scrubbers to filter the paint-laden water, Wolfe said.

The Maritime Administration also had promised that hull cleaning in the bay area would start with a pilot program. The project as described in Connaugton's letter makes no provision for a "pause" to study the possible pollution generated by the first few ships, Wolfe said.

Wolfe said he also wants answers about the maintenance of dozens of ships that would remain indefinitely in the Suisun Bay Reserve Fleet. Even under the most optimistic projections, the Maritime Administration only has the budget to move 15 old ships out of three facilities nationwide in the next year, Wolfe said. That is the same number that Connaughton pledged to move out of Suisun Bay within a year. That would still leave nearly 40 decaying.

The San Francisco Bay Regional Water Quality Control Board was preparing a letter to the Maritime Administration to inquire about those concerns, Wolfe said.

Under a congressional order, the Maritime Administration had a 2006 deadline to dismantle ships in reserve fleets classified as no longer useful. That hasn't happened because of budget shortfalls, a shortage of facilities that can dismantle the giant ships and environmental concerns.

Recently the Maritime Administration reached agreements with Virginia and Texas that paved the way for cleaning to resume there.
Because the good people in those states are a tad more, well, sensible than the tofu-eaters in the Bay area.
"We recognize they have a challenge and they have a mandate from Congress, and they need to comply with federal law," Wolfe said of the Maritime Administration. "We want to work with them to ensure they can do that, because it can't be the environment left out in the cold in this whole process."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/07/2007 11:10 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This should have been doen a long LONG time ago.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 07/07/2007 11:59 Comments || Top||

#2  The "Toxic Paint" is an anti-fouling paint designed to reduce fouling by marine life, such as barnicles etc, they slow doen a ship and cause much greater fuel usage to overcome the added drag (Hull no longer smooth)
It's usualy poisionous to barnicles, etc, that's the whole idea.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 07/07/2007 12:21 Comments || Top||

#3  If it's unsafe to scrub the bottoms in California then I guess the ships should just stay there to shed their paint naturally.
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/07/2007 14:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Let 'em rust in place. See whether they disappear before the pacific plate breaks off.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/07/2007 15:34 Comments || Top||

#5  No Glenmore, that's what us lesser states are for. No doubt some San Franciscan group will suggest that the ships be scraped in Wyoming. That would create jobs, right?
Posted by: James || 07/07/2007 16:50 Comments || Top||

#6  No, we lesser states are for producing oil and gas. For Florida, which won't allow drilling off their coast primarily because they think rigs 30 miles offshore would disturb the tourists (and rich coastal residents whose yachts leak more oil than we spill). But they are glad to take that nasty old hydrocarbon produced through the marshes of a second-class state like Louisiana (actually a third world state, but that's beside the point.)
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/07/2007 16:57 Comments || Top||

#7  It's our own damned stupid regulations that are causing the problem. If we didn't have laws that required us to remove all "hazardous" materials from the ships before scrapping, we could actually MAKE money selling these ships to Bangla or India for scrap. As it is, it now costs upward of 1 million to scrap a ship. Damned ridiculous, IMO.
Posted by: Mac || 07/07/2007 18:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Tow them way out to sea, use them for target practice. End of problem.
Posted by: Rambler || 07/07/2007 19:22 Comments || Top||

#9  San Diego Bay has had it's share of environmental damage from the ship work. This is NOT a lefty issue IMNSHO. Adequate care to contain the debris has to be maintained. In CA's situation, the Regional Water Quality Board and Coastal Commission will enforce it. Usually, I hate these two - they are unregulated 'enviro-nazis'. In this case, these long-term hazardous materials need to be contained, and I don't mean by shipping them to TX, LA, MS or elsewhere
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2007 20:58 Comments || Top||


When Lions, Buffaloes and Crocodiles Attack—At the Same Time (great vid)
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/07/2007 03:23 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wow. When the buffaloes attacked I thought it was a bit late but then the youngun got up and ran into the herd. Looks like the horns were victorious over the teeth this time.
Posted by: Gladys || 07/07/2007 5:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Never give up the fight!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 07/07/2007 12:30 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Malaysian singer draws ire of religious police
Malaysia’s religious police detained a female Muslim singer of a popular club, saying too much of her back was exposed by a sleeveless blouse she wore while performing, media reported on Wednesday.

Siti Noor Idayu Abd Moin, 24, has been ordered to go before a Sharia court at Ipoh in the northern state of Perak on Aug 6 to face charges of “revealing her body” and “promoting vice,” the New Straits Times said. “I was surprised when the officers told me this top was too revealing,” Noor Idayu said after being released from a night’s detention on a bond of 1,000 ringgit ($290). “Sometimes I wear something similar when I go out in the day. This is sexy? I don’t think so.”

The singer was picked up along with four members of her band, and subjected to repeated breathalyser tests by officials in futile attempts to prove she had drunk liquor, the paper said. “When I passed the test, the female officers seemed disappointed and asked me to do it again,” Noor Idayu said. “I did so willingly as I knew that I did not drink. Not once in my three years of singing in clubs have I drunk liquor.”

“A Muslim woman is not allowed to serve or entertain a man who is not her husband in a place where immoral activities usually take place,” Jamry Sury, chief of the Perak religious police who raided the club, told the Star newspaper.
Posted by: Fred || 07/07/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I've daid it before and I'll say it again: Muslims deserve Islam.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2007 1:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Yeah, they got to look at the back of her hooters.
Posted by: USN, ret. || 07/07/2007 10:14 Comments || Top||



Who's in the News
22[untagged]
14Taliban
9[untagged]
6Global Jihad
5al-Tawhid
4al-Qaeda
4Hamas
3Iraqi Insurgency
1al-Qaeda in Iraq
1al-Qaeda in Britain
1Chechen Republic of Ichkeria
1PFLP-GC
1al-Qaeda in Arabia
1al-Qaeda in North Africa

Bookmark
E-Mail Me

The Classics
The O Club
Rantburg Store
The Bloids
The Never-ending Story
Thugburg
Gulf War I
The Way We Were
Bio

Merry-Go-Blog











On Sale now!


A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.

Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.

Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has dominated Mexico for six years.
Click here for more information

Meet the Mods
In no particular order...
Steve White
Seafarious
tu3031
badanov
sherry
ryuge
GolfBravoUSMC
Bright Pebbles
trailing wife
Gloria
Fred
Besoeker
Glenmore
Frank G
3dc
Skidmark

Two weeks of WOT
Sat 2007-07-07
  100 Murdered in Turkmen Village of Amer Li
Fri 2007-07-06
  Failed assasination attempt at Musharraf
Thu 2007-07-05
  1200 surrender at Lal Masjid
Abul Aziz Ghazi nabbed sneaking out in burka
Wed 2007-07-04
  12 dead as Lal Masjid students provoke gunfight
Tue 2007-07-03
  UK bomb plot suspect 'arrested in Brisbane'
Mon 2007-07-02
  Algerian security forces bang Ali Abu Dahdah
Sun 2007-07-01
  Lebs find car used in Gemayel murder
Sat 2007-06-30
  Car, petrol attack at Glasgow airport terminal
Fri 2007-06-29
  Car bomb defused in central London
Thu 2007-06-28
  Brown replaces Blair
Wed 2007-06-27
  Lebanon arrests 40 Fatah al-Islam gunnies
Tue 2007-06-26
  Tony Blair to be confirmed as Middle East envoy
Mon 2007-06-25
  Boomer kills 6 UN soldiers in south Lebanon
Sun 2007-06-24
  Lal Masjid Students Free Chinese Women
Sat 2007-06-23
  Larijani admits Iran financing Hamas


Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
3.144.124.232
Help keep the Burg running! Paypal:
WoT Operations (28)    WoT Background (19)    Non-WoT (14)    Opinion (5)    (0)