But she will still be a DOUCHEBAG!
Call her Esther: Thatâs the Hebrew name Madonna has chosen for herself as a follower of Kabbalah.
"I was named after my mother. My mother died when she was very young, of cancer, and ... I wanted to attach myself to another name," the singer says in an interview on ABCâs "20/20," airing at 10 p.m. EDT Friday. "This is in no way a negation of who my mother is ... I wanted to attach myself to the energy of a different name." So screw you, ma.
During the interview, Madonna wears the red string around her wrist thatâs a symbol of the Jewish mysticism, though she wears it beneath her watch. She says sheâs sensitive when critics suggest her interest in Kabbalah is just a trend. "Iâm a little bit irritated that people think that itâs like some celebrity band wagon that Iâve jumped on, or that, say, somebody like Demi (Moore) has jumped on," the 45-year-old says. "We donât take it lightly. ... Of course you donât. Any foreign policy statements today?
"Paris Hilton did come to the Kabbalah Centre once, because her parents brought her ... and they wanted to help her and they were desperate and they brought her there and she had a meeting and she left and she never came back and suddenly, Paris Hilton studies Kabbalah. I mean thatâs what happens and people ... they donât know the whole story." Maybe they have a 12 Step Program for failed porn stars?
ST. PAUL, Minn. - A little too much passion, perhaps. A St. Paul woman who became frightened Wednesday morning when her boyfriend squeezed her too tightly while they kissed bit off part of his tongue, police said. "I guess I bit down too hard," the woman told officers, explaining that she has been victimized by men. The woman, who is 43, was arrested for assault and could be charged Thursday in Ramsey County, investigators said. The man who was bitten, who is 47 and also from St. Paul, walked with the woman from her home to a restaurant, where they called police around 3:10 a.m. He was taken to Regions Hospital, where he was treated and released. Officers went to the womanâs home to look for the tongue, but they couldnât find it. The woman, who had been drinking with her boyfriend, told them she doesnât remember what happened to the end of his tongue. Police estimate that it measured about 1.5 inches. She might have swallowed it, the woman said.
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Any femalian Rantburger buy this woman's story?
1.) She would have to have been significantly cranked up to bite her boyfriend's tongue OFF. I mean we can all get a little rambunctious, but OFF? This would require "sawing" action or a couple of chomps to disconnect it, I would think.
2.) Unless she was cranked up, I don't know how she would be unaware of having swallowed 1.5 inches of tongue.
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If Patton was here, he'd turn his Johnson on Bush-Powell's Rainbow Coalition, and act to re-patriate the Middle East oilfields to Anglo-American interests. President Patton wouldn't waste a single American tax dollar for nation-building on behalf of filthy koranimals. Fallujah and Najaf would look like the Moon, after Patton dealt justice to that scum.
http://www.turtletrader.com/patton.html
The Patton piece, though I am loathe beyond words to quit the WoT, has a terrible appeal. I would have serious mods, of course, for example securing for the US and its true allies the oil and raw industrial materials we require beyond our native borders - and I leave that little exercise to your imagination. I believe, as well, that entire nations should not automatically and necessarily be written off because of their leaders. Call it the fine print of common sense. I would offer a clear and unequivocal one-time-only rapprochement, take it or leave it, to a very select few on List 1 who were led astray by self-serving craven leaders. In the wee hours after a long day, this Pattonesque logic is remarkably tempting.
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I still can hear those faithful words..."No dumb bastard has ever won a war dying for his country...he won it by making the other dumb bastard, die for his country!" Where are you George S?!!
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"Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet."
Theres a lot said in this one sentance.
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Given the fact that Curtis Lemay would be the Secretary of Defense, it truly would be a "fireside speech". :)
While we're at it, we could make William Tecumseh Sherman the CIA Director. We could use a good March to the Sea, as in the Red Sea. "I'll make Saudi howl!"
It goes without saying Andrew Jackson would be vice-president.
The United States enquiry into the 9/11 attacks says it has found no evidence the Saudi government funded al-Qaeda. It also clears the wife of the Saudi envoy to the US, who had been alleged to have given the 9/11 hijackers money.
"The commission dispels two outrageous myths about Saudi Arabia," said Saudi official Adel al-Jubeir. US Congress members have previously questioned if the Saudi royal family provided support for the 9/11 hijackers and other al-Qaeda operatives. Saudi Arabia is the birthplace of al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden and 15 of the 19 hijackers on 11 September 2001.
Suspicions about the Gulf kingdom intensified in 2003 when the Bush administration blocked the release of a 28-page section of a congressional report on the attacks believed to focus on terror funding in Saudi Arabia.
Princess Haifa al-Faisal, wife of Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, Saudi Arabiaâs long-standing ambassador in Washington, was at one point implicated for making donations worth $130,000 to the wives of two friends of the hijackers in San Diego. more ...
The only thing that will ever properly "clear" Saudi Arabia of any complicity in the 9-11 atrocity is an American hydrogen bomb.
For those "unclear" on the subject, please read up on Saudi Arabiaâs Prince Turki al-Faisal.
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American cultural reference in Aisle 2.
Confused Brit in Aisle 3.
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If you are saying my reference is too arcane, lol, I'm sorry! I was referring to the old TV show The Beverly Hillbillies... the added fun was that they discovered oil on their property (too) and moved to Riyadh Beverly Hills...
Apologies - your Wahabibillies is hysterical all by itself!
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Get it now - used to call my friend's family the Beverly Hillbillies as they lived in an impressive 17th century manor house but kept a couple of burnt out Fords on the front lawn. Wahabibillies - after Wazibillies, inhabitants of Waziristan - someone else's invention tailored to suit the moment. No originality here, Move on...
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Macon County Line was my best work, how come everybody always wants to rehash the BHs?
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Yes, we see that fanatical religion creates convoluted processes. Of course adding something on is more problematic than taking something off, if you get my drift.....
JETHRO BODINE :
"Gorsh! Ima stll lookin thru the Koran on this one . . .
I guess that there prophet never figgered out thersa gonna be new doctorin a goin on...."
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Howard UK: The two quotes you cite were also the ones that stuck out for me. The Beeb printed them without commentary. Why? By design as the editor knows the irony would be more powerful if read between the lines or by design since the multiculties at the Beebdoes wouldn't want to criticise brown folks and their traditional ways?
In any case, the article was a blast to the past to the good ol' days of expat livin' in the MK before assassinations of Khawaja became all the rage.
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Someone is prolly going to rewrite the lyrics, now
Dotcom, someone did re-write the lyrics right here on Rantburg. See The Great Gentle Bash-off of May 23, 2004. (Comments 73 and 77). With the author's permission, allow me to reprint:
Come 'n listen to my story 'bout a man named Saud.
A poor Deserteer barely kept his family fed
An' then one day, he was shootin' at some food,
An' up thru the ground came a bubblin' crude.
Oil that is! Black gold! Mecca tea!
Well, the first thing ya know, old Saud's a millionaire,
Kin-folk said, "Saud, move away from there." Said
Tel Aviv is the place y'oughta be, so they
loaded up the tanks, and invaded Galilee.
Judea that is! Synagogues, Bah-mitzvahs!
In 1940, 12-year-old Cuban boy Fidel Castro wrote to US President Franklin Roosevelt to request a $10 note. The hand-written letter, embellished with an elaborate signature, has been unearthed by the US National Archives and Records Administration. It was one of the thousands of letters sent to the White House by children taking their demands to the very top. In an impeccable hand, young Fidel signs the letter to President Roosevelt : "Your friend". He asks Roosevelt, President of the US between 1933 and 1945, to fulfil one desire - to send him a green $10 note. "Never I have not seen a ten dollars bill green American and I would like to have one of them," the future Cuban leader wrote. He included a return address at the Colegio de Dolores in Santiago, Cuba, where he was studying at the time. The White House had an office to deal with all the presidentâs correspondence and sure enough Fidel Castro received a reply, but disappointingly, no bill. About 19 years later, his guerrilla campaign toppled the seven-year military rule of Cuban President Fulgencio Batista and, at 32, Mr Castro became the countryâs new leader. The letter was lost for two or three decades and only found by accident by a researcher.
Other letters to go on display at the National Archives and Records Administration include that of a boy called Andy Smith who wrote to Ronald Reagan in 1984 to ask for federal funds to help him clean up his room. Another is from three girls begging President Eisenhower to spare singer Elvis Presley from conscription and, more importantly, to save his sideburns. "My girlfriendâs [sic] and I are writting [sic] all the way from Montana. We think its [sic] bad enough to send Elvis Presley in the Army, but if you cut his sideburns off we will just die!" they wrote. Nowadays children can still put pen to paper and write to the US president at his Pennsylvania Avenue address but they are more likely to send an e-mail to president@whitehouse.gov.
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let's see, president@whitehouse.gov... there's one for the contact list.
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and sure enough Fidel Castro received a reply, but disappointingly, no bill.
Sh*it ain't that just like Washington?
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So Castro took power and begged for money from the Soviets for half a century. Seems he set his pattern pretty early on. Unable to earn money, he turns to communism and begging.
From Rooters, thru 3 gorges probe website....
Beijing: A Chinese general denounced an idea that Taiwanâs military could threaten Chinaâs Three Gorges dam and said on Wednesday that any strike on the worldâs biggest hydropower project would lead to war. No kidding....
In its annual report to the U.S. Congress on Chinaâs military power, the Pentagon said proponents of strikes against China "apparently hope" that merely establishing places like the Three Gorges dam as targets would deter Chinese military coercion. I do not know if it would deter the ChiComs. It would sure piss them off.
China will "be seriously on guard against threats from âTaiwan independence terroristsâ", Peopleâs Liberation Army (PLA) Lieutenant General Liu Yuan said in a commentary in the official China Youth Daily, warning against such a move. They naturally would be...
"[It] will not be able to stop war...it will have the exact opposite of the desired effect," Liu said. "It will provoke retaliation that will âblot out the sky and cover up the earthâ," he said, quoting a Chinese idiom. And make a roentgen supbowl out of Taiwan and some places in China.
China has considered Taiwan a breakaway province that must be returned to the fold, by force if necessary, since their split at the end of a civil war in 1949. The warning came as the Taiwan Defence Ministry said it had test fired two Patriot anti-missile missiles to showcase its air defence capability. They will need more than Patriots to bust a dam.
The test was part of a routine drill and was conducted at a military base in southern Taiwan, the ministry said. It did not say when the test was held or give any other details. Liu said no country had conventional warhead missiles capable of critically damaging the dam - made of concrete with a maximum thickness of more than 100 metres (328 feet). It will take more than a dam-buster spinning bomb of Brit WWII fame, for sure.
"The Three Gorges Dam will not collapse and cannot be destroyed," he said. Anything can be destroyed, some people take your statement as a challenge, Mr. Liu.
Seismologists have said the dam is designed to withstand an earthquake measuring 10 on the Richter scale. Hope they did not sneak too much fly ash in the concrete mix...
The dam was first proposed decades ago, but construction was delayed because late Communist Party chairman Mao Zedong wanted to ensure the PLA could defend it against any attack by Chiang Kai-shekâs Nationalist troops. Construction finally began in 1993 and China has expressed confidence it can defend it. A ring of steel around the dam. Festung 3 gorges.
But the Pentagon report stirred controversy in China. Got âem going, did it? Seemed to make the ChiComs buzz a bit.
"Since Taipei cannot match Beijingâs ability to field offensive systems, proponents of strikes against the mainland apparently hope that merely presenting credible threats to Chinaâs urban population or high-value targets, such as the Three Gorges Dam, will deter Chinese military coercion," it said. A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said last week the report was "Cold War mentality harbouring evil intentions". Bwahahahahahaha...
U.S. President George W. Bush has pledged to do whatever it takes to help democratic Taiwan defend itself against Chinese invasion. Tensions have simmered since Taiwanâs March presidential polls, which incumbent Chen Shui-bian won by a razor-thin margin after a mysterious election eve assassination attempt. China suspects Chen will push for formal independence around 2008, when Beijing hosts the Olympics. Chinese officials have vowed to pay any price to stop him on his road to statehood - even losing the Games. Liu, the general, called the reference in the Pentagon report "petty psychological war". Sounds like good psyops, judging from the response.
He likened Washington to "a prostitute pretending to be a gentleman" and no better than Osama bin Laden, whose al Qaeda group has been blamed for the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington. "We be gentlemen! (but really weâs hoâs)
The Three Gorges Dam, also the worldâs largest flood control project, is due to be completed in 2009 at a cost of nearly $25 billion. With total capacity of 18,200 megawatts, it will generate 84.6 billion kwh of electricity a year. [snip]
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"I do not know if it would deter the ChiComs. It would sure piss them off."
What's that old saying about "madder than a wet Chinaman"? Switching to conspiracy mode for a moment, we note that Three Gorges already has some cracking problems. Maybe when it gives way, we can blame it on "Taiwanese Independence Terrorists". Could even be a good excuse for a retaliatory invasion. consiracy mode off.
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If the 3 gorges dam cracks, fails, and starts the downstream area into rinse mode, the Chicoms will have more to deal with than rattling sabers against Taiwan. There would be a human catastrophe of such proportions that the govt would fall from the political fallout.
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AP reminded us of the excessive flyash in the mix - the Dam may be a difficult thang to kill due to its' bulk, but it may also go in big quake on its' own
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Engineers sheesh... flyash, fooey the wiley chinee have imported 32 carloads of juche for just such a contingency.
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:-) never misunderestimate the engineering mind
no matter how small....
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Seismologists have said the dam is designed to withstand an earthquake measuring 10 on the Richter scale.
Yeah, but can Three Gorges Dam withstand the usual crappy Chinese engineering?
A senior Chinese official says cracks have appeared in the controversial Three Gorges hydroelectric dam being built on the Yangtze river.
Suffice to say that downstream real estate might not be the best long term investment.
As to Taiwan potentially targeting Three Gorges Dam? Go to it, boys! As China finally tries acceding to status as a world power, they had best realize that such megaprojects represent strategic liabilities that cannot be overcome.
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When the "Big Elephant" begins his rampage, mosquito 'stings' on the backside will catch his attention! The Dam would be a freebie at that point anyway.The "MAD" doctrine will dictate mutual neutrality...China will burn as well as Taiwan; destroying the rest by water would be an advantage to Taiwan, in the eventual reconstruction phase after the cataclysm. Three of the newer nuclear tipped bunker busters would do the job nicely, if aimed for the same spot, 6 to 9 if conventional.
Efficacious Pine Needle Foodstuff
Pyongyang, June 15 (KCNA) -- Pine needle has been used as material of health foodstuffs from ancient times in Korea. According to "Hyangyakjipsongbang" (a medical encyclopedia) published in the 15th century in Korea, pine needle prevents aging, invigorates spirits and turns grey hair to black. Might have to look into it, Fred...
I dunno. First I have to get some hair...
The Korean people have used pine needles in steaming rice-cake and curing various diseases. Well, maybe not in the North recently.
The Natural Health Foodstuff Company under the Ministry of Forestry developed a pine needle tea last year through deep study of medical classics and ecological experiments. It also succeeded in making pine needle liquor which preserves its natural medicinal ingredients. The liquor contains vitamins C, B1, B2, B12, PP, A and E, and some 40 kinds of microelements including calcium and selenium, nucleic acid, essential amino acid and sexual hormone preparations. Who needs Viagra? Just trim that pine tree in the back yard!
It is efficacious for the prevention and treatment of cancer, arteriosclerosis, hypertension, diabetes, chronic colitis, rheumatic inflammation, cerebral hemorrhage and cerebral thrombosis. It also prevents aging and promotes health. Riiiiiiight...
"Cures neuritis, neuralgia and ladies' complaints! Reconstitutes the liver and cures halitosis..."
Kim Chang Gil, director of the company, told KCNA that the liquor is popular among people as it makes people feel well, promotes digestion by eliminating toxic elements from liver and increasing the liver function and removes swelling. It is also a good diuretic. No more Bud Light for me! Gimme that Amber Slag!
The company (Tel: 00850-2-18111-381-8051.Fax: 00850-2-381-4416) has steadily made researches to make other kinds of pine needle foodstuffs.
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Well it's come to this finally... RB way out in front of the bow wave as per usual.
vitamins C, B1, B2, B12, PP, A and E, and some 40 kinds of microelements including calcium and selenium, nucleic acid, essential amino acid and sexual hormone preparations.
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In response, Arafat this week sent a private delegation to Syria to establish a Syrian-Palestinian front to defeat Sharon's withdrawal plan and keep the Egyptians from assuming security responsibility in the Gaza Strip. Assad, under intense U.S. and international pressure because of his support for the Iraq insurgency and Hezbollah, has thus far refused to receive the delegation, which is reportedly still waiting in Damascus.
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"We are not asking for a pro-Israeli attitude, we are asking for a more balanced attitude of the European Union," Shalom said.
Sounds reasonable--France won't like that ...
Observers attribute the EU's traditional pro-Palestinian stance to its close economic ties to Arab countries and growing Muslim populations throughout Europe.
Uh, no. They are pro-Palestinian because suffer a collective and never-ending guilt for what the end of WWII delivered to the Palestinians: loss of land and status. It is not necessarily an outrageous position for Europe to take, on its face, but it is a rather convenient tool for avoiding the truth about anti-Semitism and their countries' culpability in what WWII delivered to the Jews. The strange thing is that they perceive themselves as guardians of fairness on this issue.
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Eur a mean one, Mr. Grinch.
Eur as cuddly as a cactus,
Eur as charming as an eel.
EU have termites in your smile.
EU have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile.
Eur a mean one, Mr. Grinch.
United Arab Emirates based Front Row Entertainment is planning to release Michael Mooreâs Fahrenheit 9/11 in the Middle East beginning on July 14 according to managing director Gianluca Chacra. The film will first be sent out on 18 screens in the United Arab Emirates and will be released in Syria (2 screens), Jordan (3 screens), Lebanon (10 screens) and Egypt (5 screens) six days later on July 20. Other territories which Front Row will handle include Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia â however, all of the above countries are awaiting censorship clearance. According to Chacra, Saudi Arabia âdoes not have theatres as interaction between males and females is forbidden, yet, theyâve offered to have it on one screen with different shows for females and males. Weâre scared most of these countries will have a problem (with censorship approval) due to the Saudi content in the film. Yet, with the Dubai Film Festival coming up, I think theyâll want to show the world theyâre quite democratic and open-minded.â
Here, you dropped your lips
In terms of marketing the film, Front Row is getting a boost from organisations related to Hezbollah which have rung up from Lebanon to ask if there is anything they can do to support the film. And although Chacra says he and his company feel strongly that Fahrenheit is not anti-American, but anti-Bush, âwe canât go against these organisations as they could strongly blow-up boycott the film in Lebanon and Syria.â As it is too early to have materials available from the filmâs sales agent Wild Bunch, its US producer Miramax or distributor Lions Gate, Front Row created a teaser poster but declined a free set of materials from a printing press run by Pakistanis as this could be deemed as an inappropriate source - âcinemas in the UAE are often frequented by US Marines who come over from Iraq on the weekends.â Front Row, which also worked with Mooreâs Bowling For Columbine, is setting a precedent with Fahrenheit as it is the first documentary ever to be released theatrically in the territory. Bowling went straight to video and had a healthy run. Indeed, Moore is, explains Chacra, âconsidered an Arab supporter,â locally.
Gee, I can't think why?
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Oh Great! I wonder how many American soldiers and civilians will be killed as a result of Michael Moore's film?
Will he be held responsible (by even the media) when someone does get killed due to the lies and distortions in his film?
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I wonder how many American soldiers and civilians will be killed as a result of Michael Moore's film?
Sadly, I think many. Although Moore considers himself quite an intellectual, he is rather dull-witted about the likely consequence of his self-promotion. His skewed views on what happened are likely to inflame the radical Islamists to take action against our military folks as well as tip some plain folks to the side of the violent actors in the WoT.
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It too bad that our side doesn't have an organization that can buy time close to the Cabal's evening Pravda report.
Can't you see the furrowed brow of Jennings talking about the "Arab Street" in "uprising".
Then after a Burger King whopper ad (in Moore's honor) a political ad from a soft money group, of course, which discusses Michael Moore's film release in the Mideast, inciting actions against our troops. It ends, "This is the kind of support Kerry is attracting. Bush-Cheney 2004."
Now the Pres. would call this kind of thing "uncivil", so the actual campaign wouldn't release it. But with adequate test audience filtering, handled the right way, it might be useful, as long as the "proper" McCain-Feingold disclaimers are used.
This is a serious (and evil) thing Moore is doing--because, as we all well know, Arabs, in general, believe any stupid fancy tale they hear--especially if it smacks of "conspiracy." Falsely sensing that the majority of Americans are divided in the war effort, will embolden them and the fanatics among them, beyond belief. "Moving pictures" equals "truth" in the Arab world.
If you really want to do something about this, instead of simply complaining about it here (which, of course, is fun and all . . . ):
CONTACT DISNEY/MIRAMAX and threaten to boycott their projects/products because of their irresponsibility as a corporation, and their blatant political campaigning during an election year against one candidate over another. Include your personal experience with Disney/Miramax projects/products so far (what you've appreciated, and how often you've purchased movie tickets, dvd's, etc., or have purchased products associated with Disney films) versus how you feel now (tell them how disappointed you are) and what you're going to do as a consumer, (like not go see their latest releases, etc.), then back your submission up with a few linked articles regarding terrorists, the WOT etc. (which you can easily get from Rantburg links) if e-mailing, or print or fax them to include if you're sending FAX or personal letter.
*** Be sure to tell them that you know that Miramax is one of their companies, purchased in 1993. *** And remember: All the execs at Disney/Miramax care about is #1: money, #2: public image (because it affects #1, i.e. money). If people make their voices heard, it will have an impact.
Address:
Richard W. Cook, Chairman, Walt Disney Studios
Walt Disney Studio Entertainment
500 S. Buena Vista St.
Burbank, CA 91521-9722
The Walt Disney Company Main Switchboard:
(818) 560-1000
FAX: 818-560-1930
Disney has an e-mail address too: (studiooperations@disneyonline.com) but you must go to the disney site first, then click on production services or post production services to get to the live e-mail link. The Disney Corporation family includes all kinds of companies, such as ABC, ABC News, K-Mart, ESPN, Mattel Toys, etc. listed here , and of course there's all kinds of other things like Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruises. For the ambitious, carbon copy "cc" your correspondence to the heads of all the individual Disney enterprises. Trust me--word will get around. Worries will spread like wildfire. Mentioning stock issues will also go a long way.
Here's the link to the Miramax fact sheet, with address, phone and background of the company.
Address:
Bob Weinstein, Co-Chairman
Harvey Weinstein, Co-Chairman
Miramax Film Corp.
375 Greenwich St.
New York, NY 10013
Phone: (212) 941-3800
FAX: 212-941-3949
Disney/Miramax top competitors are:
DreamWorks SKG
Warner Brothers
Sony Pictures Entertainment
You can link these companies here (scroll down), and send notes of appreciation that they aren't doing this type of thing. Believe me, it will cause a big ruckus!
Unfortunately, PIXAR (Finding Nemo etc.) is also part of Disney. Write them and tell them they should hook up with someone else (they're going to anyway in 2006, but enourgement never hurts!). Steve Jobs (Apple Computers) is the CEO and Chairman of Pixar, and owns 54% of the company. Tell him if you own or plan to purchase Apple Computer products (which are the best, IMO) like iTunes and tell Steve you're glad he's discontinuuing relationship with Disney/Miramax. I went to college at the same time as Jobs did, and at that time everyone at the university knew about the "crazy guy" building something "futuristic" in his garage! He's a terrific guy and would appreciate hearing from you.
Steve Jobs, Chairman/CEO
Pixar Animation Studios
1200 Park Ave.
Phone: (510) 752-3000
FAX: 510-752-3151
Emeryville, CA 94608
Hey--There's more than one way to fight the WOT! Let's show Michael Moore and his group what we got! BOOM!
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I'm glad that this film playing in the middle east will show other people that all Americans aren't pro-war. I think it can only save American lives, both overseas and at home. I'm a long-time boycotter of the Disney monster, so I'm with you there.
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Arabs might believe in conspiracies but at least they're not media driven people. Mind you that the news you watch in the US isn't the same we watch in Europe.
I'm glad F-9/11 is being released in the Middle East and soon enough in Europe.
You call yourself land of the brave and free? Then why are you maiking such a big fuss out of this film? If you wanna go watch it watch it. If you don't... then don't. No need to bitch and whine about things like that.
#2 I wonder how many American soldiers and civilians will be killed as a result of Michael Moore's film? None of you have seen the film... I have and I think it doesn't necessarily mean that more soldiers are going to be killed... On the contrary it shows how your President relies on ignorants and people living on welfare to bring them down to Iraq. Think soldiers enjoy Iraq??? Did you ever think of Iraqi soldiers??? Or why not mention the torture they've been through? Why don't you think of these guys too? Or isn't just because you're an all mighty american people can't touch you? PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.... why don't you come to Europe and get some sense into your think head!
hezbollah is a political party for your info not only a terrorist group. If they wanna support it... so be it. I'm sure Moore isn't exaclty in contact with them... If you read the article carefully, they contacted that company in Lebanon who happens to be distributing the movie.
Anyway, I'm dying to watch it again... See you there or better see you in front of the theatre bitching about!
The Dude
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why don't you come to Europe and get some sense into your think head! hezbollah is a political party for your info not only a terrorist group.
Ahhh, Eurostani logic!
Now, since the way you structured your sentance, that it is okay for a political party such as Hezbollah to have at terrorist arm, is it also okay to further consider that wing to be a simple band of thugs who are begging us to kill them?
You cool with that?
Reading your reply, one may get the idea that Eurofolks think murder is a perfectly acceptable method of political discourse. I guess y'all didn't learn from 40 years of Stalin or 12 years of Hitler. Old habits, especially bad ones, die hard, sorta the way Eurostan is going: dying hard.
And please come back to post some more, so your twisted logic and your all too perfect willingness to accept barbarism as a way of life can be deconstructed into the heaping, steaming pile of dung that it actually is.
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Dear Badanov,
Hizbullah is considered a terrorist group right? Ok great. What do you call a country that threatens other countries of wars and ends up killing thousands of innocent civilians in the name of "freedom" and capitalism? Answer that! Do you see Italy, germany, France, Spain raising their war flags up in the name of freedom and capitalism? it's clearely a political and economical interest Mr. Bush is leading.
Tell me another thing, in Africa, several countries are at war... how come the Americans aren't helping these guys? Aren't they supposed to raise the flag of freedom there too? How many other countries are curreently facing wars? Where does the US stand on this? The clearely don't have interest there just yet.
QUIT BEING SO NAIVE DUDE! September 11 was on its way and if there's one person that should be blamed that is Mr. Bush. His negligence brought September 11. he is to be blamed for the 3,000 plus people that innocently died that day! How come that didn't happen in other countries?
Badanov, i seriously think you should get on the net and read more news and probably you'll understand that what is happening is a consequence to what the US is doing...
Ciao,
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic White House candidate John Kerry spent more than an hour meeting privately with Missouri Rep. Richard Gephardt on Wednesday, adding fuel to the vice presidential guessing game. Olâ "Red". This is his last chance!
The presumptive presidential nominee and his former rival met for between 60 and 90 minutes in Kerryâs Capitol Hill office, a Democratic official said. Kerry was expected to meet with other potential candidates in coming days. An announcement was unlikely before next month. Campaign aides declined to say who the Massachusetts senator conferred with, but several congressional colleagues on the list of vice-presidential possibilities were only steps away. "I donât talk about the veep thing, you know that," Kerry told reporters. "Iâve been very disciplined." Yeah, the "little woman" sees to that?!?!? Ha!
The Gephardt meeting came as Republican Sen. John McCain scotched the idea of a cross-party election ticket, declaring: "I will not be a candidate for vice president of the United States." But I am open to Secretary of Defense
With the clock running on the selection process, Kerry advisers hope the unequivocal statement will finally lay to rest any lingering notion that the Democratic candidate hopes to convince the Arizona senator and fellow Vietnam War veteran to join him in challenging President Bush on Nov. 2. Oh Shoot! The Cabal is soooooooooooooooo disappointed!
Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter noted: "He also said he hadnât been offered the job." Democratic sources said Kerry was miffed by reports that he had discussed the job with McCain on multiple occasions and been rebuffed. Keeping his vice presidential selection almost as private as the choice of a new pope, Kerry and his staff have refused to speculate on names or even discuss the process that veteran Democratic operative Jim Johnson is overseeing. The candidateâs stock response is that he will choose a running mate "before the convention," which begins in Boston on July 26. Among others in Congress who have been mentioned as possible running mates are North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and Florida Sen. Bob Graham, also former rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sens. Evan Bayh of Indiana, Bill Nelson of Florida and John Breaux of Louisiana. Usual suspects!
Edwardsâ office said he was in New York. Only a phone call away!
A dark horse surfaced on Tuesday when Kerry was asked if he was considering Delaware Sen. Joseph Biden. Oh PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE. THAT WOULD BE SO MUCH FUN!
"Heâs a great friend of mine," Kerry responded. Adding to the flurry of speculation, two governors considered possible picks -- Tom Vilsack of Iowa and Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas -- were in Washington for the release of a new report on health care. Kerry must be hallucenogenic if he thinks he can carry Kansas...
Cutter said only that Kerry was "meeting with his colleagues in the Senate and having private meetings." Retired Gen. Wesley Clark, another former rival, is co-hosting a fund-raiser for Kerry in Washington on Thursday night. Kerry is scheduled to travel to Detroit around midday but will spend the morning tending to unspecified business. Iâm an egomaniac and available. "At your service, Senator!"
The Kerry campaign announced he had raised more than $100 million since March, topping Bush for the third straight month and shattering Democratic records. But his war chest still falls far short of the $216 million Bush has raked in for his re-election bid. Three months in a row? OK. What does that prove other than the flunquis know who the nominee is. They were holding their resources. Sorry about posting the whole thing, but there was so much GOOD material!
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The unspoken assumption in picking Gephardt as a running mate is that he'll keep labor on board (since the unions own Gephardt). This tells me that he is so unpopular with this key Democratic party constituency that he had to throw them a bone to get access to their resources (like volunteers and mailing lists), which other candidates would have gotten gratis. I wonder if a lot of Democratic interest groups will sit out the election this year?
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But his war chest still falls far short of the $216 million Bush has raked in for his re-election bid.
That doesn't include the $500 million the Dems would use to topple the President if they could ...
Guys, any idea as to what amount of "indie money" is backing the president, so I don't get pessimistic?
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I really hope this is inaccurate. My biggest fear is that the Americans who don't understand how much they're being influenced by the leftist news and the loud-mouthed minority will end up thinking that it's the "prevailing opinion" and vote for Kerry. Call me partisan if you will, but given what I've seen of the Democrats' tactics since Clinton, I fear that a Kerry win would go to show that dishonest power-grabbers can win by saying whatever they want and ignoring facts and making claims that have no basis in reality. If for no other reason (and there are plenty), I hope Bush wins just to show these selfish people that their tactics ultimately won't work. But I don't know if that will happen, and it scares me.
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Here's an excellent site which keeps the running totals and full stats.
I want Bush to win for survival reasons. I believe that the talley will certainly change numerous times between now and November, but I'm preparing to leave. IMO, the lies and the 'fear game' will win - and then the US voters really will have things to fear... an unintended self-fulfilling prophecy.
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While I'm not keen to gaze at Tubby's mug or hear his drawl again, if anyone decides to watch the prog, pay close attention to see if they even touch the subject on WHY he was impeached. I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't come up.
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...pay close attention to see if they even touch the subject on WHY he was impeached...
Yeah, he's a real hero--perjuring himself before the entire nation. What a model of civic responsibility.
Not to mention the fact that he and his unprincipled wife put a great model of marriage out there for young people: men-cheat if you can "get away with it", women-you'll just have to suffer and forgive (that's a great message for poor young mothers to get impregnated again and again and stay trapped in marriages of infidelities and lies).
He may be clever, he may be articulate, but he's an embarassment to our country.
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Brought both a laugh and a roll of the ol' brown eyes. Great that he recognizes now that it was a "grave moral error." I'd be willing to bet money he wouldn't have if he'd never been caught.
The whole battle was a badge of honor. I don't see it as a stain, because it was illegitimate.
No, it was a badge of dishonor, being impeached for lying under oath and getting it on with interns in your office while Binny was planning big booms overseas! And it was illegitimate, that stain . . .
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I don't see it as a stain, because it was illegitimate.
Is he talking about the dress?
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"Former President Bill Clinton calls his fight against his impeachment a "badge of honor" in an exclusive and wide-ranging 60 MINUTES interview with Dan Rather to be broadcast Sunday June 20 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network" Clinton & Rather, huh?    I think I'd Rather not.
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Well, if boinking the Interns and lying under oath is a badge of honor, what's selling out to the Chinese? I'm pretty sure being suborned by a foreign power is well, treason?
Yeah, Itâs Pravda, so get out those 20-lb blocks of salt.
I canât believe even the Russkies are this perverse. Look
for some serious haggling before the ink hits the paper.
Then look for massive fraud in carbon-trading schemes.
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"All sorts of things, too long for me to list here, are still out there waiting to be done. ... There are so many new things to make, limited only by our imagination..."
One thing's for sure - those individuals that are going to do these things aren't likely to be devout followers of Islam.
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He certainly didn't do it by himself, lol, but he did envision it - kudos for that and a well-deserved award. The Mosaic team that made his ideas reality deserves a huge amount of credit - they did the lion's share of "fleshing out" spoken of in the snippet. One member of that team, you may recall his name: Marc Andreessen, went on to take that code (paid for by the US-Taxpayer - and in the public domain) and created NutScrape, er, um, I mean Netscape, another name you may recall.
Credit to Berners-Lee for seeing something that wasn't there, which can sometimes get you institutionalized. :-)
This is from the UK Indymedia site. The irony, oh, the irony...
The queer rights group OutRage! is "attempting to defame" the Palestine solidarity movement and is "damaging the cause of solidarity with Palestinians", according to the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC). The PSC made this claim in a letter to the left-wing Morning Star newspaper, published last Saturday, 5 June. It was objecting to OutRage!âs criticism of the officially-sanctioned persecution of queers in the Palestinian-controlled areas of Gaza and the West Bank, and to OutRage!âs revelation of attempts by PSC officials and stewards to silence this criticism. Members of OutRage! joined the PSC demonstration in London on 15 May, supporting an end to Israelâs human rights abuses against the Palestinians.
Contrary to claims by the PSC, we did not stage a "counter-demonstration". We were there in solidarity with the Palestinian struggle. Our placards said, "Israel: Stop persecuting Palestine". But we also called for an end to the torture and murder of lesbians and gays by the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), Hamas and the Palestinian Authority (PA). Our placards additionally read, "Palestine: Stop persecuting queers". It was never our intention to disrupt the PSC rally or create a big commotion. We had a small, low-key presence. Our aim was to raise awareness. We wanted to alert the supporters of Palestine, in the hope they would help us pressure the Palestinian leadership to halt its oppression of queers.
What turned a minor presence into a major incident was the excessive response of the PSC organisers and stewards. They surrounded us, ordering us to the back of the demonstration. When we refused, they blocked out our placards with their own, obscuring our message. They also shouted us down, preventing us talking with journalists and other protesters who wanted to find out more about the suffering of queers in Palestine. The PSC now denies this intimidation and censorship took place. But it was filmed by a Channel 4 documentary maker, Darren Lewey, and photographed by four professionals, including the respected left-wing and pro-Palestine photographer Paul Mattsson. They all corroborate OutRage!âs version of events.
In a bid to deflect criticism, the PSC has issued a statement saying it opposes homophobia. Fine words. But what has it done to challenge the violent homophobia of the PLO, Hamas and PA? I wrote to the PSC nine years ago, asking them to urge the PLO to stop killing queers. The PSC did nothing. I emailed the PSC office six weeks ago requesting dialogue. They never replied. The PSC accuses OutRage! of damaging solidarity with the Palestinians. Thatâs right PSC, blame the people who defend the victims, and let the oppressors off the hook. It is the PLOâs and PAâs homophobia that is damaging solidarity, by dividing gays and straights - both here and in Palestine.
While the PSC ignores the persecution of Palestinian queers and their pleas for help, OutRage! does not. We heard their appeals for solidarity and acted. Astonishingly, the PSC letter in the Morning Star completely ignores the issue of PLO and PA violence against lesbians and gays. It offers not a word of sympathy to the victims of Palestinian homophobia, and makes no offer to raise the issue with the Palestinian authorities. The PSC is in deep and total denial. Yet again we seem to have a so-called progressive movement implying that queer lives are expendable for the sake of the greater good of a revolutionary struggle.
There is no doubt that Palestinian queers are the victims of horrendous homophobic violence. This is confirmed by the independent Israeli human rights groups BâTselem and the Association for Civil Rights, and by the Israeli gay organisations, Aguda and Open House. Two senior PLO officials have admitted to me privately that homophobic violence is sanctioned by the Palestinian leadership. Officially, the PLO refuses to discuss the matter. I have tried several times over the last 20 years to quietly and diplomatically raise this issue with the PLO. It has rejected all overtures and attempts at dialogue. That is why OutRage! had to protest. To do nothing would be collusion with homophobic tyranny.
The PSC implies that OutRage! has no right to campaign in solidarity with Palestinian queers, arguing that "Palestinian lesbians and gay men must be allowed to determine for themselves how they wage that struggle". We agree. That is why Outrage!, unlike the PSC, is not ignoring their desperate pleas for help. I have supported the Palestinian struggle for national liberation for 30-plus years. But freedom for Palestine must be freedom for everyone - straight and gay. Unless we challenge the abuse of queer human rights now, homophobia will become entrenched in a new Palestinian state. If the PLO and PA get away with persecuting queers, they will also be emboldened to trample on the rights of other Palestinians too. Pressuring them to respect queer rights will help create a stronger human rights culture and that will benefit all Palestinians. These issues aside, OutRage! values the work of the PSC. We will continue to support its efforts to help secure a free Palestine. We hope that in return the PSC will work with us to pressure the PLO, Hamas and the PA to abandon their homophobia and create a truly liberated nation based on human rights for all.
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The queer rights group OutRage! is "attempting to defame" the Palestine solidarity movement and is "damaging the cause of solidarity with Palestinians", according to the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC).
Haaahahahhahahahhahahahahahaahaaahahaaaaa!!!!!!
They also shouted us down, preventing us talking with journalists and other protesters who wanted to find out more about the suffering of queers in Palestine.
So how does it feel to be a victim of your own leftist tactics?
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Aw, crap. Is there nothing these sick bastards won't touch?
Too bad we can't employ them to take out the Saudis . . .
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Instant felony charges and mandatory hard prison time for all virus writers. No plea bargains and full restitution for those whose computers were damaged. Make writing even a single f%&king virus an instant ticket to lifelong poverty with garnished wages.
From The New York Times
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, acting at the request of George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, ordered military officials in Iraq last November to hold a man suspected of being a senior Iraqi terrorist at a high-level detention center there but not list him on the prisonâs rolls, senior Pentagon and intelligence officials said Wednesday. This prisoner and other "ghost detainees" were hidden largely to prevent the International Committee of the Red Cross from monitoring their treatment, and to avoid disclosing their location to an enemy, officials said. Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba, the Army officer who in February investigated abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison, criticized the practice of allowing ghost detainees there and at other detention centers as "deceptive, contrary to Army doctrine, and in violation of international law."
This prisoner, who has not been named, is believed to be the first to have been kept off the books at the orders of Mr. Rumsfeld and Mr. Tenet. He was not held at Abu Ghraib, but at another prison, Camp Cropper, on the outskirts of Baghdad International Airport, officials said. Pentagon and intelligence officials said the decision to hold the detainee without registering him - at least initially - was in keeping with the administrationâs legal opinion about the status of those viewed as an active threat in wartime.
Seven months later, however, the detainee - a reputed senior officer of Ansar al-Islam, a group the United States has linked to Al Qaeda and blames for some attacks in Iraq - is still languishing at the prison but has only been questioned once while in detention, in what government officials acknowledged was an extraordinary lapse. "Once he was placed in military custody, people lost track of him," a senior intelligence official conceded Wednesday night. "The normal review processes that would keep track of him didnât." ....
In July 2003, the man suspected of being an Ansar al-Islam official was captured in Iraq and turned over to C.I.A. officials, who took him to an undisclosed location outside of Iraq for interrogation. By that fall, however, a C.I.A. legal analysis determined that because the detainee was deemed to be an Iraqi unlawful combatant - outside the protections of the Geneva Conventions - he should be transferred back to Iraq. Mr. Tenet made his request to Mr. Rumsfeld - that the suspect be held but not listed - in October. The request was passed down the chain of command .... At each stage, lawyers reviewed the request and their bosses approved it. ...
The suspected Ansar official was segregated from the other detainees and was not listed on the rolls. Under the order that had filtered down to General Sanchez, military police were not to disclose the detaineeâs whereabouts to the Red Cross pending further directives. ... Before this case surfaced, the C.I.A. has said it had discontinued the ghost detainee practice, but said that the Geneva Conventions allowed a delay in the identification of prisoners to avoid disclosing their whereabouts to an enemy. ...
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This is insane. Why in the world do we want the WaPo reporting on CIA operations in Iraq?
And what is worse, they are using masked sources, a surefire indicator that some elements of the story is patently false.
This shows the WaPo's sympathies lie more with our enemies and our prisoners than it does with our military and our allies.
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By that fall, however, a C.I.A. legal analysis determined that because the detainee was deemed to be an Iraqi unlawful combatant - outside the protections of the Geneva Conventions - he should be transferred back to Iraq.
The Red Cross has no business involving unlawful combatants, since unlawful combatants are not POWs.
I'd ask why the press isn't making the whole unlawful combatant issue clearer, but I already know the answer.
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At each stage, lawyers reviewed the request and their bosses approved it. ...
EFL
A U.S.-based company has been warned by a United Nations assclown expert not to sell bulldozers to Israel because of the way the Israeli army is using them. Rachael Corrie Rachael Corrie Rachael Corrie Rachael Corrie Rachael Corrie Rachael Corrie Rachael Corrie Rachael CorrieSomeone has been shaking the stupid tree.
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The corker in the article is the passage that threatens Caterpillar with war crimes prosecution.
The U.N. doesn't know it yet, but it really doesn't want to go there. because if they do, guess which nation's industries could be implicated in war crimes in Iraq?
Hint: They eat cheese and they like to surrender a lot.
In the short, sad and ridiculous history of human rights organizations there has never been an attempt to hold any business entity responsible for how its products are used, until now.
Now, with the 'Palestinian' cause in the process being rolled up and cast into it's proper place in the dustbin of history, the UN, trying to regain lost relevence, makes a bizarre nexus between a manufacturer's product and how the product is used.
I do not believe there is any point in trying to fix this broken organization, an enabler of murderers and Marxist theifs. The UN must go.
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In the short, sad and ridiculous history of human rights organizations there has never been an attempt to hold any business entity responsible for how its products are used, until now.
True on the human rights organization front but they're doing nothing more than following the example we've set for them here in the US vis-a-vis unsuccessful attempts to hold firearms manufacturers liable for violent acts or the public costs associated therewith, or the successful attempts to hold cigarette manufacturers liable for the result that all smokers knew would come about due to their continued use of the product.
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When was the last time that a UN staffer got P.N.G.-ed?
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Now the bulldozer smugglers will have a customer!
. . .warned not to sell bulldozers. . .
The "expert" says, The joooooos have the audacity to strike back at "suicide" bombers.
Well, then, since they use bulldozers, lets ban them from having bulldozers!
I think this UN "expert" better have eyes in the back of his head. The Mosaad is tracking him. He'd better not ever be alone, he'd better have very good body guards, and he'd better get a new identity.
Even then his chances of survival are 50-50 at best.
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I've always liked that photo for the expression on the kids' faces. The kid in the upper right hand corner looks like he's thinking "This is an American? People like this got to the moon?" The kid two places to her left looks like he's thinking "This is, like, so not cool."
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Actually, Ziegler is apparently also a hard-lefty who lied on his UN visa about such membership, and not only has Caterpillar rebuffed him (D-9s are sold unarmored, they have no say in the end use, and will keep up sales), but the Israeli ambassador to the UN offices declared Ziegler unfit for his position, this from the NY Sun ...
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And here I thought it was impossible for the UN to be made to look more ridiculous.
To paraphrase Albert Einstein:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and UN stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
For the UN's hive of diplomatic dilletants there is no upper limit upon their ability to pin blame anywhere except directly upon their own exceptionally well padded posteriors. The UN has facilitated so very many war crimes that their collective heads should explode to even gabble about accusing Mister Caterpillar of same.
via Drudge, who else?
By Jim Krane, AP, 6/16/2004 14:27
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) The job of occupying Iraq means hardship and long hours and sometimes a game of Risk over a hookah and a few beers.
In a city where few people drink, Baghdadâs sealed-off green zone counts at least seven bars, including a Thursday night disco, a sports bar, a British pub, a rooftop bar run by General Electric, and a bare-bones trailer-tavern operated by the contractor Bechtel. Only employees of the occupation are welcome in most of them. U.S. troops ejected a reporter from the basement sports bar a few months ago, at the instance of Coalition Provisional Authority employees drinking inside.
The plushest tavern is the CIAâs rattan furnished watering hole, known as the ââOGA bar.ââ OGA stands for ââOther Government Agency,ââ the CIAâs low-key moniker. The OGA bar has a dance floor with a revolving mirrored disco ball and a game room. It is open to outsiders by invitation only. Disgruntled CPA employees who havenât wangled invites complain that the CIA favors women guests.
An American government worker said the British residents are especially keen to drink. A joke running through the green zone says that British officials overseeing construction of their new embassy are giving highest priority to opening the embassy pub.
One of the more interesting hangouts is the Green Zone Cafe, a tent erected in the parking lot of a former gas station. The cafe brings together a raucous mix of occupation personalities and others like reporters who donât carry government IDs. On a typical evening, one can see U.S. soldiers smoking from 4-foot-tall hookahs and security contractors guffawing over beer, their machine guns by their sides. The CPAâs would-be strategists can sometimes be seen in their ubiquitous military desert boots and dress shirts and slacks, playing Risk, the board game of global domination.
One night, the CPAâs senior adviser for youth and sport, Mounzer Fatfat, sat at the head of a banquet table in white shirt and tie, beating out an infectious rhythm on an Arab derbakah drum. Bar patrons danced and clapped along. A tiny back room at the cafe also holds the green zoneâs chief liquor store, where bottles of whiskey, vodka and wine are sold at approximately double the price charged outside the green zoneâs blast walls. The backroom liquor store is a typical stop along the way to one of the green zoneâs frequent "trailer parties" held in the cramped temporary housing.
Luckier residents prefer the big barbecue parties put on by security firms like Kroll and Olive. The green zoneâs dearth of eligible women means men arenât as likely to be invited.
Worst off, perhaps, are the few thousand U.S. soldiers living in full view of the carousing. The Pentagonâs General Order No. 1 prohibits U.S. troops from drinking, although soldiers say liquor is easy to come by especially in the green zone.
The zone also boasts a pizza parlor and pair of highly competitive Chinese restaurants. There is the palace swimming pool and a "casino" that is really a glorified game room. The zoneâs several gyms are popular, the occupation seeming to have transformed many who arrived overweight into fitness buffs.
One street has been converted into a souk, where Iraqis sell bootleg DVDs, rugs and trinkets. On a recent visit, a boy on a motorbike pulled up and made a hushed offering: "Hey! porno?"
"I donât know if they are corrupting us or weâre corrupting them," one CPA official quipped. Oooh, oooh, I know, I know! Lol - and life goes on...
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An American government worker said the British residents are especially keen to drink. A joke running through the green zone says that British officials overseeing construction of their new embassy are giving highest priority to opening the embassy pub. Good lads, hope they got it done in time for the football soccer!
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I bet a little Hofbräuhaus in Baghdad would cheer things up a lot :-)
I know a few waitresses who are not afraid of anything!
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U.S. troops ejected a reporter from the basement sports bar a few months ago, at the instance of Coalition Provisional Authority employees drinking inside.
"We don't serve their kind!"
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Risk? Wimps. Play Diplomacy instead.
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via Weekly Std - EFL
Login, if reqâd: gdfs / gdfsjb Blogs are popular and influential, but could they be used for political dirty tricks? Or worse?
by Hugh Hewitt
06/17/2004 12:00:00 AM
WHEN WILL George Smiley and Karla begin to blog?
Smiley and Karla are the two central characters from John Le Carreâs finest set of Cold War intelligence thrillers. Smiley was the best of the operatives, patiently wending his way through misinformation and misdirection, deceptions and deceits.
In the era of Reagan, everything had to be understood as admitting of at least two interpretations. Was your information genuine or planted, or did the Soviets or East Germans or someone else want you to think it was planted, and would you let them know that you knew? It was wonderful stuff -- moles, tradecraft, honeypots, and Cubans attached to the United Nations.
Fifteen years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, we are a much less suspicious people when it comes to disinformation. Which brings us to the blogosphere.
Time magazine discovered blogs this week, with an extensive article on their proliferation and impact. "Not that long ago, blogs were one of those annoying buzz words that you could safely get away with ignoring," the authors admit. But not anymore. They go on to declare that "Bloggers are inverting the cozy media hierarchies of yore."
True enough. Like a reverse Atlantis, a new archipelago of opinion and news providers has risen up from nowhere to drive stories and news cycles. So we should be asking about the potential for deception in the format. The web is widely used and relied upon. It would not be hard for intelligence services from around the world to build blogs with an intent to deceive or manipulate, putting out solid content to gain an initial audience before using it to disseminate disinformation intentionally.
Similarly, the inevitable backstab blog has to be on some political consultantâs mind. Get it started and growing as a pro candidate X blog. Build an audience via tried and true techniques -- including the purchase of blog-ads -- and then, late in a campaign, have the blog turn on candidate X. If any of the high profile lefties at work today -- the Daily Kos or Atrios, for example -- were to suddenly turn on Kerry, citing implausibility fatigue, for example -- that would be news and a blow to Kerry. Could Kos really be working for Rove? The costs of starting a blog are so low that the mischief potential is quite high.
Also, a portion of the war on terror is being fought over the internet, with radical Islamist groups routinely employing websites to project their messages and their demands. How long before our intelligence services or those of our allies begin to turn that technology back upon the terrorists. Or might the Peopleâs Republic of China -- always in the vanguard of espionage -- figure out that pro-PRC blogs might be a good thing to subsidize for the long haul, perhaps without owning up to the sponsorship?
In recent months, the Belmont Club has exploded onto the blogging scene, powered by impressive analysis of the war and its stakes. In less than six months, more than 1,100,000 visitors have stopped by to sample "Wretchardâs" writings. I have had an email exchange with Wretchard, and believe him to be what he says he is -- just an amateur analyst making his views known. But his success got me to thinking about the potential for the use of blogs to shape opinions by dressing partisans up as new and anonymous sources. Which then got me to thinking about governments using the new medium to play public opinion. Which led to the idea of hostile movements doing the same. ...more...
Hugh, baby, letâs keep some of the bad ideas to ourselves, K? Lol!
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Black flag ops? People who do that ought to be castigated.
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meh the costs are not low,
direct finanical maybe, but it takes a serious human effort with a large helping of TLC to make a blog become popular enough for it to make a difference...
I think the odds of someone pulling that off, while professing the opposite of what they really believe, are nil
I have to go with dcreeper, here. Journalistic false flag operations strike me as highly imaginative. Look at Allahpundit, as an example. His entire schtick is that he's the deranged Jew-hating Islamofascist's version of the All-Mighty. It's not a subtle impersonation, and yet the author had difficulty maintaining a constant tone over a sustained period of time, and tended to drop out of character in the face of particularly harsh news. The last few weeks, he's just been goofing around with photos.
It's hard to lie in a daily publication without believing the lie in some fashion. You either become the lie, or reveal yourself.
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Looks like Sullivan was running one (see also here).
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Hewitt is talking about something that is already happening. Andrew Sullivan is a perfect example.
And that something is specific to these times: A blogger with little poltitical passion gets blindsided by 911 and suddenly becomes the right's darling. As months roll by and the blogger starts to realize what it really means to be a part of the right, they become less enthusiastic about their newfound alliances, but they keep to their views shaped by 911.
Then one day, in their mind, the right does something stupid: endorses the defense of marriage act, or trivializes the Abu Ghraib prison event; then they start to drift back to the left.
Suddenly its not so much fun to be against Islamofascism as it once was. In fact their former friends of the left are starting to look pretty good and then writings start to come out in support of some element of the left's views on terrorism. In time, the writings look like anathema to the positions they took before.
I can't tell you it will happen because it already has, but I am pretty certain it will happen to more and more blogs considered of the right, not a lot of them, but some of them for sure.
#6
If you have anything of value, someone will try to either steal or co-opt it for their own purposes. However, try as you might, propaganda is a lot easier to pull off in theory than in practice.
First of all, you have to disseminate your lie--not an easy thing to do, if you consider how much money is spent in advertising for such tiny returns. Textually, an urban legend-type story would give you the best results. (see snopes.com)
Second, your lie has to have "legs", more than just a "how about that?" and "who cares". It should have a purpose that elicits something. "Crisis fatigue" is as much an enemy of lies as it is the truth.
And then there are those who live to suppress both truth and lies, the spin doctors and disinformationists. They have a 30-step program to "neutralize" information that is damaging, and so effective that it can neutralize *anything*.
(The candidate yelled that he is the anti-christ and began to vigorously masturbate on network television.)
"He didn't do that. You are misinterpreting what really happened. Why do you focus on the negative? Every candidate does that. His opponents are doing far worse things. Let us move on with the people's business. He does so many good things. That is the sort of accusation Nazis make. The videotape has been altered, there is no real proof. Someone drugged his pure spring water. It is just a distraction from his policies concerning education and the economy. Are we in the media covering this story too much?"
#7
Fifteen years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, we are a much less suspicious people when it comes to disinformation.
Rubbish Hugh, we never stopped being suspicious. Do you really think we took the NY Times at face value all these years? What do you take us for? My Gosh, what you are really admitting is that you took the NY Times seriously all these years. You poor dumb schmuck. Suckered again.
So we should be asking about the potential for deception in the format.
What arrogance. As if deception does not exist among mainstream reporters now. Journalists would never lay down false info would they Mr. Blair? You don't get it Hugh, the reason we turn to blogs is becuase we are tired of being lied to.
How long before our intelligence services or those of our allies begin to turn that technology back upon the terrorists.
God I hope so. If not, I think I'll get started on a homeypot Jihadi website myself. I better start brushing up on my Jihadi ideology. Anybody up for a free lance http black op?
#10
Har, har. Its badanov you make jokes at a time like this, but journalistic integrity is at stake. Just for that, you take point on the op, bad. Shipman gets right flank. Bomb-a-rama, you take the left flank. Now, now, no whining. We can't all be right wingers. Mucky, you're in charge of grammar....ok, maybe not. Just bring your bong instead. We'll smoke out these Jihadis, dead or alive. Bring 'em on.
Journalistic integrity is a catch phrase now with little backing it up. Itâs thrown around to numb guilty consciousnesses. Journalism today has a doctrine and an agenda to fulfill that doctrine.
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"But his success got me to thinking about the potential for the use of blogs to shape opinions by dressing partisans up as new and anonymous sources."
It figures, you right wingers planning to use the internet for propoganda. Blog all you want, but smart people will still know that Bush lies, Rush lies, . . .
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06/17/2004 17:51 Comments ||
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Jennifer - at least back your arguement up with facts. What/how did they lie about? Give FACTS.
You know - Lefties always say GW isn't too bright but then in the same breath they say he masterfully crafted a lie to fool the entire world to attack Iraq. Don't those arguements contradict each other?? Sounds like they are just using the shotgun pattern hopping something hits.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam ||
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Bush lied about WMDs. He hyped the intelligence. He wasn't interested in security until after 9/11. He is in favor of torture. And he may or may not be in favor of castration - that one hasn't been proved, but the rest are known facts.
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Seems like Ms. Burka-Wannabe is blathering again.
"Known Facts" - Taught by leftist totalitarian so-called professors who suck salaries like leeches out of the taxpayers while flatulating at public universities.
"may or may not be" - The term used by the "objective" mainstream to hide behind what they really believe.
"Rush lies" - The left always likes to pick on the handicapped. A deaf, recovering drug addict, is a slime because his views are "inauthentic" to anyone who is "enlightened"
"smart people" - Only people who have been indoctrinated the afforementioned leechy folks discussed in "known facts" above.
"propoganda" - Anything contrary to oracles of "wisdom" spoken by Rather, Brokaw, Jennings, etc.
"in favor of castration" - Fantasy of leftist women bloggers of what they want to do to all us unrepentent white heterosexual males.
#1
You know, they work so hard to come up with these nice, non-lethal means of controlling rioters and looters and terrorists...I mean protesters and still they whine and complain. Personally, I think flamethrowers would be far more effective.
#2
I'm not sure those morons understand much about the world, someone needs to take them to the local convience store and demostrate on them how every single item in the store can be used to torture/kill someone...
#3
..someone needs to take them to the local convience store and demostrate on them how every single item in the store can be used to torture/kill someone...
Law enforcement officer: "If you don't disperse, I'm going to shove these Pringles down your damn throats..."
#6
Which is it you are wanting? The new Stun guns or a flamethrower? BTW, Flamethrowers are legal to own in our wonderful state of Tennessee, as are Class III.
EFL
Promising an "unprecedented" summer for forest protests against Bush administration policies, Greenpeace on Tuesday fired a first salvo by blocking an Oregon logging road with a three-ton container and three activists chained to it. "Hey Mack, go ahead and light the backfire, but check which way the wind is blowing."
As a doc, I ask the Rantburg University Department of Engineering: what size front-end loader do I need to lift a three-ton container? Fragility of contents is not a concern.
Since you will already be operating in a logging area, we here at Rantburg U reccomend the Caterpillar 525B Skidder. With a winch rating of 49,650 lbs, you will easily pull that can of trash off the road. Plus, as the Model 525B is a wheeled skidder, it is much easier on the enviroment. Caterpiller, the number one name in activist removal.
The activists spent seven hours chained to the container â two were inside, and a third outside â before police broke their locks, according to Greenpeace spokesperson Celia Alario. Would it be OK if we just beat on the container with an aluminum baseball bat to see whether they remebered to wear hearing protection?
I'm sure they obey the OSHA rules, doesn't everyone?
The container was set down on a southern Oregon road leading to a federal timber sale site in what Greenpeace said were "236 acres of old-growth forest." The administrationâs latest policies have been framed around the idea of minimizing wildfires by additional logging of overgrown or diseased national forests and other federal lands. Greenpeace said its protest Tuesday marked the start of its campaign to declare a moratorium on commercial logging on public lands. "These beautiful, old trees are a fire hazard our national treasures and the lungs of the planet. But instead of protecting the last remaining forests, the Bush administration is attempting to destroy them," Bill Richardson, campaigns director for Greenpeace, said in the statement. "If Bush continues to ignore the publicâs wishes to keep their forests healthy, it will be up to the American people to rescue our public forests from this imminent danger."
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How did the containers get there? I mean the left considers GreenPiss supermen but I doubt they carry around three tons of steel in their backpacks.
And did they used Teamsters to haul the container? And iffin' they didn't, wouldn't the Teamsters be interesting in this work rules violation?
#2
A small tidbit of information that greenies never speak of. (Probably due to ignorance)
A tree through it's growing life uses carbon dioxide and produce oxygen. Everybody knows that.
After the tree dies and lays there decomposing it uses aproximately the same amount of oxygen and produces approximately the same aount of CO2 that that it used in it's lifetime.
That's Biology.
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The containers were buried in landfill before it was learned that protestors were hidden inside.
#4
Caterpillar 525B Skidder. That'll due it,however,I suggest a D-10/with rippers.Smash the container like a beer can then drag it out of the way.Minimum disruption of the habitat is the objective after all.
#7
Leave them there, in fact, add chains, then spread fresh venison around 'em...
Nature, gotta love it
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06/17/2004 17:09 Comments ||
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I'm no legal beagle, but for these activities, I would say document them and show that they are a systematic effort to violate the law. Then after this paper trail is established, get an injunction with some teeth that fine Greenpeace $1000s per violation. Treat this the same way as labor unions get fined when violating a no strike order. Hitting them in their pocketbook will get their attention real quick. But people need to do their homework. Greenpeace does, this is just not someone's whim.
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Something I've read over and over again is that these big wildfires are started because (in incidents other than Ecoterrorist-initiated, obviously) lightning strikes the forests and starts a major fire - but only because humans clear out all the little stuff that would burn quietly. From what I've heard - and I'm no ecology expert - it's actually nature's way of clearing out the debris. (Please correct me if I'm wrong). Assuming this is correct, I wonder what would happen if the Bush Administration announced that they weren't going to clear the forests. Would Greenpeace protest that, too?
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Oh, no. Be prepared for a summer of sad tales of well meaning greenies falling out of trees they're sitting in to protect and killing themselves.
In the interest of good taste, try to keep the snickering to a minimum.
#11
Doc - nature's way is frequent fires due to lightning, wildfires. By controlling the fires, but not controlling the fuel level - accordingly(i.e. no thinning) - we create an artificially hazardous environment, which results in fires that don't burn themselves out via chg in weather pattern/wind or lack of fuel.
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EFL
Passing up road trips, beach vacations and barbecues, thousands of anti-Bush demonstrators are heading to summer school to learn how to stage successful sit-ins and what to do if pepper spray burns their eyes. Welcome to Convention Protesting 101. Hey, Vladimir did you remember the s'mores?
Before the GOP convention begins Aug. 30, veteran activists will train protesters in street tactics, legal issues, public relations and first aid. Their aim: creating a force of demonstrators to carry out safe and organized protests. "When youâre protesting in New York City," said John Sellers, the director of a California-based group that trains activists, "youâre definitely in the big leagues."
And you'll be playing against best too. I'm sure the NYPD will be happy to give you a graduate course in Riot Control.
Next time have it in Wichita. Better yet, pick a place without a Starbucks.
"Look Ma! I made it in the bigs!"
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I waiting for the bell guy. At least you will know where he is all the time.
Wednesday Morning Laura Ingraham had on her show some of the protesters. Including the bell guy who wants to "Ring Out Bush", and there was some other whacko who had the fake Southern Accent. This was a performance artist who seemed to blame W for the theft of a pack of his twinkies.
#2
Longer, older, better article here. These moonbats are going to be one of Bush's best assets. And they don't care:
Neubauer says activists like himself are less interested in âtrying to sway an unconvinced Middle Americaâtype audienceâ and instead are âtrying to create these temporary autonomous zones where we can experience a little piece of a world that weâd like to be our everyday reality. Weâre doing it for ourselves. Thatâs a revolutionary switch.â
#3
I expect the real chaos to be in Boston. Many of the ingredients of anarchy pie are already there, so much so that editorials in both the Boston Globe and the Boston Herald are saying that the convention should be called off.
The main website for Boston anti-DNC news is:
http://blackteasociety.org/index.php
(check out news items on the right column)
Plus, all the other fruitbats in Boston in their ongoing struggle against sanity website. This one should be interesting as the convention gets closer:
#4
Anonymoose - the ONLY reason I'll even consider stepping foot in Boston that week is to meet Tim Blair (he scored press credentials to cover it). My roommate's HQ is in Somerville; he's depressed just thinking about it.
I love this part:
Passing up road trips, beach vacations and barbecues,
#5
Neubauer says activists like himself are less interested in âtrying to sway an unconvinced Middle Americaâtype audienceâ and instead are âtrying to create these temporary autonomous zones where we can experience a little piece of a world that weâd like to be our everyday reality. Weâre doing it for ourselves. Thatâs a revolutionary switch."
... could you please elaborate? Or do I have to drag you away because you're so stoned your fellow lefties might trample you in orgasmic frenzies at the very mention of the president's name and being in the company of fellow Bush-haters?
(Sorry if that sounded completely incoherent, it's 70-degrees up here.)
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06/17/2004 13:21 Comments ||
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"...Neubauer says activists like himself are less interested in ?trying to sway an unconvinced Middle America?type audience? and instead are ?trying to create these temporary autonomous zones where we can experience a little piece of a world that we?d like to be our everyday reality. We?re doing it for ourselves. That?s a revolutionary switch.?
In other words, Mr. Neubauer and friends are just j**king off.
Mike
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biggest potential disaster in Boston? If Ted Kennedy drives himself to the convention
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Democrats can't think their way out of a box. Example?
...activists are quietly learning how to block doorways or street intersections and when to use passive body language - such as sitting down - to disarm police officers trying to make an arrest..."The Republicans would love to have images...that make them look like the reasonable ones, like they're about responsibility and law and order and creating a safe society, and that the left was unreasonable and violent," Sellers said.
Maybe not violent (we'll see) but certainly prohibiting the free movement of others-is that reasonable, responsible, law-abiding in the free society they say they want?
#11
Intel needs to go after the leaders. If they preach distruption, etc, then they should be targets of surveillance, and with the Patriot Act, the leaders could be scooped up if they advocate and plan for street brawls, distruptions, and riots.
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AP - I bet they're infiltrated...heh heh...and even if not, it F*&ks with their pointy little heads to speculate so ;-)
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Nah, that's just what they want.
I say, bring out the Moonies, Hare Krishnas and maybe the door-to-door-with-earnest-tracts folks and let them prosletize up and down the demonstration ranks.
But then, I have a hidden sadistic streak .... LOL
#14
Not the Hare Krishnes! NO! NO! My ears are still pounding from those bloody finger symbols. 4 years of them at Berkeley!
I'm having flashbacks!
Orange robes...
begging for money.....
Singing hare Krishna hare krishna hare rama hare rama....
HELLLLLLLLPPPPP MMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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EFL - Sudan proves they are a still a little hazy on the whole natural human rights paradigm.
Public-order police under Sudanâs Islamist regime fined and whipped a Christian woman for not wearing a headcovering in 100-degree heat. Cecilia John Holland, 27, was on a bus heading to her suburban Khartoum home April 13 when about 10 police officers forced the vehicle to stop and dragged her from it, according to the British-based charity Barnabas Fund. The group said Holland was dressed modestly in long sleeves and an ankle-length skirt. The policemen struck her while forcing her into their vehicle where four other women already were inside, the British charity said. She was held overnight at the police station. The next morning, Holland was taken to Sizana Islamic Court where the Muslim policemen testified against her. She was not allowed to make a statement or speak in her own defense. How much difference is their really between the Sudanese governemnt and the Taliban?
The court declared her guilty of charges she was "standing near a garden at night" and not wearing a scarf on her head. Kind of makes the Massachusetts Blue Laws look pretty tame.
She was sentenced to 40 lashes on the back and a fine of 10,000 dinars, the equivalent of a monthâs wage. Authorities released her that afternoon after being whipped and paying the fine. Earlier in April, the government had renewed its insistence that all Sudanese citizens residing in Khartoum would be under Islamic law. Barnabas noted Holland is one of more than 2 million non-Muslim southerners in the capital area who have been displaced as a result of the 21-year civil war between the mainly Arab Muslim north and the mainly African Christian and animist south, which has been fighting Khartoumâs imposition of Islamic law. Holland, who has paler skin because of a Europeoan grandparent, might have been mistaken for an Arab Muslim, but the British group says her name and accent should have proved her Christian and southern Sudanese identity. Police reportedly told her no one, "not even a non-Muslim" was exempt from the Islamic dress code.
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Nice to see she wasn't stoned. Moderates, may god bless them.
#4
Have you ever heard of a people as chronically afflicted with sexual repression and shame as the sharia folks? They are so terrified of their own sexual weakness and lack of self-control that they must remove ANY FEMALE SKIN from sight-eyelids, fingertips, heels, all of it. How can people so obsessed with humiliation in the world's eyes not see that this hypervigilant sexual neutering makes them a laughing stock. It's a wonder they have children at all...
#5
They are so terrified of their own sexual weakness and lack of self-control that they must remove ANY FEMALE SKIN from sight-eyelids, fingertips, heels, all of it.
If they can't remove it from their sight via sharia law and it somehow does manifest anyway, then they remove that offending female skin with the lash. Such brave, brave men.
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